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Group: Safarifriends Message: 3397 From: donperet2002 Date: 6/1/2006
Subject: Need advice
Group: Safarifriends Message: 3890 From: Phillip Date: 9/1/2007
Subject: Fuel Gauge
Group: Safarifriends Message: 3894 From: Jim Date: 9/8/2007
Subject: Re: Fuel Gauge
Group: Safarifriends Message: 5263 From: Tom Yeaw Date: 1/4/2009
Subject: Fuel gauge
Group: Safarifriends Message: 5264 From: Jack Frohbieter Date: 1/4/2009
Subject: Re: Fuel gauge
Group: Safarifriends Message: 5962 From: eljrid8 Date: 5/10/2009
Subject: 94 37' Ivory Edition Fuel Guage
Group: Safarifriends Message: 5964 From: KarenInTheWoods * Date: 5/11/2009
Subject: Re: 94 37' Ivory Edition Fuel Guage
Group: Safarifriends Message: 5979 From: jimbowenintex Date: 5/18/2009
Subject: Fuel gauge
Group: Safarifriends Message: 5991 From: n1jaf Date: 5/19/2009
Subject: Re: Fuel gauge
Group: Safarifriends Message: 6793 From: jquade_fwb Date: 9/18/2009
Subject: OK, 1st Missi Blue II Problem
Group: Safarifriends Message: 6796 From: octrailerboy Date: 9/18/2009
Subject: Re: OK, 1st Missi Blue II Problem
Group: Safarifriends Message: 6858 From: jquade_fwb Date: 9/22/2009
Subject: Re: OK, 1st Missi Blue II Problem
Group: Safarifriends Message: 6859 From: jquade_fwb Date: 9/22/2009
Subject: Re: OK, 1st Missi Blue II Problem
Group: Safarifriends Message: 7026 From: solarnomads@aol.com Date: 10/18/2009
Subject: Re: Looking for Power Monitor
Group: Safarifriends Message: 7255 From: cgatzka Date: 11/25/2009
Subject: Three Problem Areas (1998 Continental)
Group: Safarifriends Message: 7258 From: chuck lewis Date: 11/25/2009
Subject: Three Problem Areas (1998 Continental)
Group: Safarifriends Message: 7260 From: Sherry Date: 11/26/2009
Subject: Re: Three Problem Areas (1998 Continental)
Group: Safarifriends Message: 7261 From: John Date: 11/26/2009
Subject: Re: Three Problem Areas (1998 Continental)
Group: Safarifriends Message: 7268 From: studgap2 Date: 11/29/2009
Subject: Re: Three Problem Areas (1998 Continental)
Group: Safarifriends Message: 7713 From: jquade_fwb Date: 2/23/2010
Subject: Re: cat reader not working
Group: Safarifriends Message: 7717 From: KEITH Date: 2/24/2010
Subject: Re: cat reader not working
Group: Safarifriends Message: 7718 From: jquade_fwb Date: 2/24/2010
Subject: Re: cat reader not working
Group: Safarifriends Message: 7722 From: KEITH Date: 2/24/2010
Subject: Re: cat reader not working
Group: Safarifriends Message: 7731 From: jquade_fwb Date: 2/27/2010
Subject: Re: cat reader not working
Group: Safarifriends Message: 7740 From: KEITH Date: 2/28/2010
Subject: Re: cat reader not working
Group: Safarifriends Message: 7750 From: KEITH Date: 3/1/2010
Subject: Re: cat reader not working
Group: Safarifriends Message: 7751 From: jquade_fwb Date: 3/3/2010
Subject: Re: cat reader not working
Group: Safarifriends Message: 7752 From: KEITH Date: 3/5/2010
Subject: Re: cat reader not working
Group: Safarifriends Message: 8896 From: Greg Date: 7/26/2010
Subject: Fuel gauge problems
Group: Safarifriends Message: 8898 From: Dick Missett Date: 7/26/2010
Subject: Re: Fuel gauge problems
Group: Safarifriends Message: 8904 From: Tim Ahlstrom Date: 7/27/2010
Subject: Re: Fuel gauge problems
Group: Safarifriends Message: 8929 From: Greg Date: 7/28/2010
Subject: Re: Fuel gauge problems
Group: Safarifriends Message: 8937 From: stuplich@ymail.com Date: 7/28/2010
Subject: Re: Fuel gauge problems
Group: Safarifriends Message: 8943 From: Greg Date: 7/29/2010
Subject: Re: Fuel gauge problems
Group: Safarifriends Message: 9173 From: JL Date: 8/26/2010
Subject: Re: gas gauge
Group: Safarifriends Message: 9323 From: bubby schmitz Date: 9/12/2010
Subject: Re: gas gauge
Group: Safarifriends Message: 10262 From: ih_guys Date: 11/22/2010
Subject: Fuel Gauge
Group: Safarifriends Message: 10263 From: stuplich@ymail.com Date: 11/22/2010
Subject: Re: Fuel Gauge
Group: Safarifriends Message: 10264 From: bubby schmitz Date: 11/22/2010
Subject: Re: Fuel Gauge
Group: Safarifriends Message: 11511 From: Ron Date: 2/23/2011
Subject: Fuel Gauge broken
Group: Safarifriends Message: 11512 From: Ron Date: 2/23/2011
Subject: Re: Fuel Gauge broken
Group: Safarifriends Message: 11514 From: Herb Sweet Date: 2/23/2011
Subject: Re: Fuel Gauge broken
Group: Safarifriends Message: 11515 From: Ron Date: 2/23/2011
Subject: Re: Fuel Gauge broken
Group: Safarifriends Message: 11517 From: Gary Smith Date: 2/23/2011
Subject: Re: Fuel Gauge broken
Group: Safarifriends Message: 11521 From: g umstead Date: 2/24/2011
Subject: Re: Fuel Gauge broken
Group: Safarifriends Message: 11522 From: Herb Sweet Date: 2/24/2011
Subject: Re: Fuel Gauge broken
Group: Safarifriends Message: 11541 From: Dick Missett Date: 2/24/2011
Subject: Re: Fuel Gauge broken
Group: Safarifriends Message: 11612 From: Rod Branch Date: 3/3/2011
Subject: Re: Fuel Gauge broken
Group: Safarifriends Message: 14948 From: jimlyndabrooks Date: 10/11/2011
Subject: Re: Gas guage
Group: Safarifriends Message: 15442 From: John Ruff Date: 11/29/2011
Subject: Northwest RV Supply and Safari/Monaco


Group: Safarifriends Message: 3397 From: donperet2002 Date: 6/1/2006
Subject: Need advice
This past February we brought home our new to us 1999 Safari
Serengeti. Took it to Cummins Cal Pacific two weeks later for 3
repairs, the most important being the Hurricane Hydra hot. While
there it also had a Norcold recall. So 11 weeks later we picked it
up on a Tuesday and left for Pahrump on Wednesday. The Hurricane
system still would not work when we tried it at the campground.
Before, it would flame out because of air in the system. Cummins
replaced the fuel line because of a crack in the line? Now the
system still flames out and the fuel pump chatters loudly because of
all the air. Called Cummins when we returned and they asked if we
wanted to bring it back?? Cummins is the only authorized Hurricane
repair in San Diego County. Does any one have any experience with
this system that would help the Cummins tech? Oh, the bill was
almost $2000 and they couldn't find the air leak, but the fuel gauge
and Norcold work. 2 for 4 so far.

Thanks for any help
Don and Shirley Peret
1999 Safari Serengeti
2003 Jeep Wrangler
Escondido Ca.
FMCA
Group: Safarifriends Message: 3890 From: Phillip Date: 9/1/2007
Subject: Fuel Gauge
How accurate is the fuel gauge,when we fill up it never goes to
full,how far will it go to the empty side?
Our old MH went pass full and also would go past the empty mark.
Phillip
2003 Safari Sahara
Group: Safarifriends Message: 3894 From: Jim Date: 9/8/2007
Subject: Re: Fuel Gauge
Hello Phillip'

On my '96 with a 90 gal tank, when I fill it will stay on full for
about 250 miles and then start dropping. When it reads 1/2 tank I
can get about 60-65 gal in it.

Thus, I do not believe they are very accurate.

Jim
'96 Sahara 3540, 300 CAT


--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "Phillip" <rvtips@...> wrote:
>
> How accurate is the fuel gauge,when we fill up it never goes to
> full,how far will it go to the empty side?
> Our old MH went pass full and also would go past the empty mark.
> Phillip
> 2003 Safari Sahara
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 5263 From: Tom Yeaw Date: 1/4/2009
Subject: Fuel gauge
The fuel gauge on my 97 Safari Ivory Edition always reads full, does anyone know what the problem may be.
Group: Safarifriends Message: 5264 From: Jack Frohbieter Date: 1/4/2009
Subject: Re: Fuel gauge

The fuel gage reads full when the resistance of the sending unit is the lowest. Most likely you have a short to ground in the wire that runs from the sending unit to the gage. To check it you have to remove the dash cover. You can then disconnect the wire from the gage and check its resistance to ground. I think the resistance when the tank is full should be about 30 ohms. There have been cases of the wire being crushed by the fuel tank causing a short to ground. Good luck.

 

Jack

96 3740 Serengeti

 

-----Original Message-----
From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Tom Yeaw
Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 8:22 PM
To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Safarifriends] Fuel gauge

 

The fuel gauge on my 97 Safari Ivory Edition always reads full, does anyone know what the problem may be.

 
Group: Safarifriends Message: 5962 From: eljrid8 Date: 5/10/2009
Subject: 94 37' Ivory Edition Fuel Guage
On my last trip out I noticed that my fuel gauge quits working when I
turn on my headlights. Anyone ever have this problem?

Thanks

Lonnie
94 Ivory 3730 250HP 8.3
Canby, OR
Group: Safarifriends Message: 5964 From: KarenInTheWoods * Date: 5/11/2009
Subject: Re: 94 37' Ivory Edition Fuel Guage
Hahaha sounds like the Dashboard Gremlins have moved in???

Loose ground wire somewhere?


Karen and Steveio
1996 Safari Serengeti 38 ft DP
Honda Helix up on back rack
Wisconsin Northwoods

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On Sun, May 10, 2009 at 9:41 PM, eljrid8 <eljrid@...> wrote:
On my last trip out I noticed that my fuel gauge quits working when I
turn on my headlights.  Anyone ever have this problem?

Thanks

Lonnie
94 Ivory 3730 250HP 8.3
Canby, OR
Group: Safarifriends Message: 5979 From: jimbowenintex Date: 5/18/2009
Subject: Fuel gauge
I have a 98 Serengeti with about 100K miles on it. This past weekend I got on some Ruff roads which caused the fuel gauge to peg high.
Any suggestions on where to start to repair the gauge.
JB
Group: Safarifriends Message: 5991 From: n1jaf Date: 5/19/2009
Subject: Re: Fuel gauge
This is caused by a short to ground in the wire from the fuel sender to the gauge. It is hard to get at in the area above the fuel tank (most likely place) If you can get to the sender unit I would just run a new wire and cut out the old one.

Jack
96 Serengeti 3740

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "jimbowenintex" <jimbowen@...> wrote:
>
> I have a 98 Serengeti with about 100K miles on it. This past weekend I got on some Ruff roads which caused the fuel gauge to peg high.
> Any suggestions on where to start to repair the gauge.
> JB
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 6793 From: jquade_fwb Date: 9/18/2009
Subject: OK, 1st Missi Blue II Problem
And I discovered it on the first drive home (Portland to Port Angeles -- I-5 & US 101). When we took delivery of Missi Blue II in Portland, all the dash gauges worked AOK, in particular, the fuel gauge was registering just a needle width passed 3/4 full. About 80 miles north of Portland I glanced down and the fuel gauge was only registering almost empty. PANIC, I exited I-5, searched for a fuel station, found one, and filled up. Guess what???? It only took 23 gallons, hmmmmm. Then I checked the other gauges after starting and no oil pressure, water temp, etc., and sitting still the speedo was showing 58 MPH. Nothing seemed to be working. Home & the next day I drove it to a battery shop guy I know who verified that the batteries (load tested) were OK (and new this spring -- House & starting), and the alternator was functioning (charging), they were. So I have deduced a "Dash Problem." Is this a common problem???? Any ideas for solution??? I looked under "There" and it looks "Scarey."
Group: Safarifriends Message: 6796 From: octrailerboy Date: 9/18/2009
Subject: Re: OK, 1st Missi Blue II Problem
--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "jquade_fwb" <jquade@...> wrote:
>
> And I discovered it on the first drive home (Portland to Port Angeles -- I-5 & US 101). When we took delivery of Missi Blue II in Portland, all the dash gauges worked AOK, in particular, the fuel gauge was registering just a needle width passed 3/4 full. About 80 miles north of Portland I glanced down and the fuel gauge was only registering almost empty. PANIC, I exited I-5, searched for a fuel station, found one, and filled up. Guess what???? It only took 23 gallons, hmmmmm. Then I checked the other gauges after starting and no oil pressure, water temp, etc., and sitting still the speedo was showing 58 MPH. Nothing seemed to be working. Home & the next day I drove it to a battery shop guy I know who verified that the batteries (load tested) were OK (and new this spring -- House & starting), and the alternator was functioning (charging), they were. So I have deduced a "Dash Problem." Is this a common problem???? Any ideas for solution??? I looked under "There" and it looks "Scarey."
>

Is the driver info center working? I believe the majority of gauges are on the same circuit, and if it isn't working as well I would expect a fuse to be the problem. The fuses are in the front compartment on the drivers side, and are pretty well marked.

My next guess would be a poor ground to the dash. Let's hope it's the fuse.

Kent
Group: Safarifriends Message: 6858 From: jquade_fwb Date: 9/22/2009
Subject: Re: OK, 1st Missi Blue II Problem
The 15 amp Dash Fuse (3rd down from the top) was blown. The tech found it, replaced it and thought the problem was "Solved." Nope, two blocks down the street and No Dash again. Pulled into Costco parking lot and changed the fuse again. Turned the key on and pop goes the fuse again, so back to the Shop it went. Will pick it up tomorrow.

And thanks again to Jim for posting the electrical schematics link. I downloaded them and printed them out. The Tech at the shop thanks you and attests that it is darn close to a 1997 Serengeti also.

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "jquade_fwb" <jquade@...> wrote:
>
> And I discovered it on the first drive home (Portland to Port Angeles -- I-5 & US 101). When we took delivery of Missi Blue II in Portland, all the dash gauges worked AOK, in particular, the fuel gauge was registering just a needle width passed 3/4 full. About 80 miles north of Portland I glanced down and the fuel gauge was only registering almost empty. PANIC, I exited I-5, searched for a fuel station, found one, and filled up. Guess what???? It only took 23 gallons, hmmmmm. Then I checked the other gauges after starting and no oil pressure, water temp, etc., and sitting still the speedo was showing 58 MPH. Nothing seemed to be working. Home & the next day I drove it to a battery shop guy I know who verified that the batteries (load tested) were OK (and new this spring -- House & starting), and the alternator was functioning (charging), they were. So I have deduced a "Dash Problem." Is this a common problem???? Any ideas for solution??? I looked under "There" and it looks "Scarey."
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 6859 From: jquade_fwb Date: 9/22/2009
Subject: Re: OK, 1st Missi Blue II Problem
Solution -- Tech found a wire that ran over a Frame Support, rubbed through the insulation, and was shorting. Repair & protected the wire, plus he drove it for a while to insure something else was not shorting out, went the extra mile. Total billing is around $120, mostly labor.

Also the owner Eric took time out and "Schooled" me on tow bars, especially the Roadmaster stuff. Apparently his dad was part of the original design for the Stowmaster 5000, plus he also developed some of the towing apparatus.

So, if anyone is touring the Olympic Peninsula in Washington State, I would recommend Eric's RV in Sequim, Wa., West end of town behind the MacDonalds.

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "jquade_fwb" <jquade@...> wrote:
>
> The 15 amp Dash Fuse (3rd down from the top) was blown. The tech found it, replaced it and thought the problem was "Solved." Nope, two blocks down the street and No Dash again. Pulled into Costco parking lot and changed the fuse again. Turned the key on and pop goes the fuse again, so back to the Shop it went. Will pick it up tomorrow.
>
> And thanks again to Jim for posting the electrical schematics link. I downloaded them and printed them out. The Tech at the shop thanks you and attests that it is darn close to a 1997 Serengeti also.
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "jquade_fwb" <jquade@> wrote:
> >
> > And I discovered it on the first drive home (Portland to Port Angeles -- I-5 & US 101). When we took delivery of Missi Blue II in Portland, all the dash gauges worked AOK, in particular, the fuel gauge was registering just a needle width passed 3/4 full. About 80 miles north of Portland I glanced down and the fuel gauge was only registering almost empty. PANIC, I exited I-5, searched for a fuel station, found one, and filled up. Guess what???? It only took 23 gallons, hmmmmm. Then I checked the other gauges after starting and no oil pressure, water temp, etc., and sitting still the speedo was showing 58 MPH. Nothing seemed to be working. Home & the next day I drove it to a battery shop guy I know who verified that the batteries (load tested) were OK (and new this spring -- House & starting), and the alternator was functioning (charging), they were. So I have deduced a "Dash Problem." Is this a common problem???? Any ideas for solution??? I looked under "There" and it looks "Scarey."
> >
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 7026 From: solarnomads@aol.com Date: 10/18/2009
Subject: Re: Looking for Power Monitor
Steve,
 
Take a look at where you want to locate the meter, how much depth/space is available. We've been happy with the EMeter we installed in 1998, which is now known as Xantrex LinkPro or the Link10. We located ours just above the remote inverter switch in bedroom and made for easy connection through to batteries via the electrical compartment below.  All battery monitors should provide you the information you seek. But remember, they are like a fuel gauge, but are not a fuel gauge in that they all arrive at state of charge and amount left in battery based on algorithms and millivolts, not actual measure, but they are a heck of a ways beyond the "good, fair poor" meters installed in most coaches. Get to know your batteries, age, performance, time to discharge etc. You might also look for a Link 1000 meter that combines remote for the older heart inverters AND the battery monitor function of a Link10, Bogart or other. These may sometime appear on ebay.
 
Happy trails. tom
 
1997 Safari Ivory
Group: Safarifriends Message: 7255 From: cgatzka Date: 11/25/2009
Subject: Three Problem Areas (1998 Continental)
1. Fuel gauge is pegged on maximum. Checked connections on dash and all seem to be tight. To drop the fuel tank (109 gal capacity) would be a gigantic undertaking. Any ideas?

2.U-Line icemaker. Makes ice but somehow extra water gets into ice bucket and freezes into a big chunk of ice. A new water regulator did not solve the problem.

3. Hurricane Heating System. Heats water like a champ. However, does not do an acceptable job of heating the coach. Placing my hand at a heat register I can feel the heat but it doesn't blow strong enough to circulate in the coach. The blowers all seem to be working based on the sound when I turn on the system.
Group: Safarifriends Message: 7258 From: chuck lewis Date: 11/25/2009
Subject: Three Problem Areas (1998 Continental)
OOOOPPPPS, I got two questions confused.
 
Fuel gauge, double check the ground. Check continuity. Run a wire from the ground on the gauge to a know ground. Could be a bad gauge too.

Bing brings you maps, menus, and reviews organized in one place. Try it now.
Group: Safarifriends Message: 7260 From: Sherry Date: 11/26/2009
Subject: Re: Three Problem Areas (1998 Continental)
Hurricane problem:

Suggest you call ITR in Vancouver, WA ande ask for Randy, the tech. He can diagnose the problem and likely can talk you thru the solution. Alternatively, join the hydronic heating yahoo group and post your question. Roger Berke who owns the group is certified on Hurricane systems. Good luck!

Sherry
98 Serengeti 40

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "cgatzka" <cdgatz@...> wrote:
>
> 1. Fuel gauge is pegged on maximum. Checked connections on dash and all seem to be tight. To drop the fuel tank (109 gal capacity) would be a gigantic undertaking. Any ideas?
>
> 2.U-Line icemaker. Makes ice but somehow extra water gets into ice bucket and freezes into a big chunk of ice. A new water regulator did not solve the problem.
>
> 3. Hurricane Heating System. Heats water like a champ. However, does not do an acceptable job of heating the coach. Placing my hand at a heat register I can feel the heat but it doesn't blow strong enough to circulate in the coach. The blowers all seem to be working based on the sound when I turn on the system.
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 7261 From: John Date: 11/26/2009
Subject: Re: Three Problem Areas (1998 Continental)
2 suggestions
1. Verify that the heat exchangers are not clogged with pet hair and dust. From the intake side. 

2. Make sure the ice maker is level in the ice box. If it is not then water will run out of the low side 

John Boldt 
817-437-6749

On Nov 26, 2009, at 10:46 AM, "Sherry" <bsherryg@...> wrote:

 

Hurricane problem:

Suggest you call ITR in Vancouver, WA ande ask for Randy, the tech. He can diagnose the problem and likely can talk you thru the solution. Alternatively, join the hydronic heating yahoo group and post your question. Roger Berke who owns the group is certified on Hurricane systems. Good luck!

Sherry
98 Serengeti 40

--- In Safarifriends@ yahoogroups. com, "cgatzka" <cdgatz@...> wrote:
>
> 1. Fuel gauge is pegged on maximum. Checked connections on dash and all seem to be tight. To drop the fuel tank (109 gal capacity) would be a gigantic undertaking. Any ideas?
>
> 2.U-Line icemaker. Makes ice but somehow extra water gets into ice bucket and freezes into a big chunk of ice. A new water regulator did not solve the problem.
>
> 3. Hurricane Heating System. Heats water like a champ. However, does not do an acceptable job of heating the coach. Placing my hand at a heat register I can feel the heat but it doesn't blow strong enough to circulate in the coach. The blowers all seem to be working based on the sound when I turn on the system.
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 7268 From: studgap2 Date: 11/29/2009
Subject: Re: Three Problem Areas (1998 Continental)
Hi, As to the fuel gauge problem. I had the same thing on my Beaver 1997 Monterey made by Safari. Turned out to be I needed a new sending unit. The fuel tank was in a bad spot, needed to drop front axel. So instead measured and cut a 6 X 6 inch hole in floor right over the sending unit. replaced the sender and everything fine. insulated and cover the hole with a piece of aluminum diamond plate, looks good.

Charlie



--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "cgatzka" <cdgatz@...> wrote:
>
> 1. Fuel gauge is pegged on maximum. Checked connections on dash and all seem to be tight. To drop the fuel tank (109 gal capacity) would be a gigantic undertaking. Any ideas?
>
> 2.U-Line icemaker. Makes ice but somehow extra water gets into ice bucket and freezes into a big chunk of ice. A new water regulator did not solve the problem.
>
> 3. Hurricane Heating System. Heats water like a champ. However, does not do an acceptable job of heating the coach. Placing my hand at a heat register I can feel the heat but it doesn't blow strong enough to circulate in the coach. The blowers all seem to be working based on the sound when I turn on the system.
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 7713 From: jquade_fwb Date: 2/23/2010
Subject: Re: cat reader not working
Keith,

Same thing plagued us on our 1997 Serengeti. It was blowing the fuse that fed the dash panel (that was a wire shorting out), is your fuel gauge "Really Working???" Long story short, it turned out the selonoid was NOT getting the require voltage across it. The RV Tech used a multimeter to measure voltage across and it was around 13 volts going in and less than 11 going out. He then (to prove his diagnosis) used a battery jumper cable to bridge across the selonoid and the Computer had no problems. That selonoid is a standard GM part and is available (cheap) at any NAPA store. Search back here on the forum because I posted it. We now have been on two trips and no more problems (knock on wood).

John & Joyce Quade
Freshwater Bay, WA

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "KEITH" <kdshawaii@...> wrote:
>
> I have been on a trip from Vancouver,WA to Newport Beach...the engine reader, diagnostics on the dash has stopped working, I cant get it to turn on.......everything has been running great but it would be nice to have. Anyone have a similar problem before ??
> Keith
> 96 Sahara 3126
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 7717 From: KEITH Date: 2/24/2010
Subject: Re: cat reader not working
John & Joyce,
Thanks for the info...I think I have found it...was it up in the front near the fuses...seems easy to replace...anything I should know before ??
Thanks again
Keith

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "jquade_fwb" <jquade@...> wrote:
>
> Keith,
>
> Same thing plagued us on our 1997 Serengeti. It was blowing the fuse that fed the dash panel (that was a wire shorting out), is your fuel gauge "Really Working???" Long story short, it turned out the selonoid was NOT getting the require voltage across it. The RV Tech used a multimeter to measure voltage across and it was around 13 volts going in and less than 11 going out. He then (to prove his diagnosis) used a battery jumper cable to bridge across the selonoid and the Computer had no problems. That selonoid is a standard GM part and is available (cheap) at any NAPA store. Search back here on the forum because I posted it. We now have been on two trips and no more problems (knock on wood).
>
> John & Joyce Quade
> Freshwater Bay, WA
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "KEITH" <kdshawaii@> wrote:
> >
> > I have been on a trip from Vancouver,WA to Newport Beach...the engine reader, diagnostics on the dash has stopped working, I cant get it to turn on.......everything has been running great but it would be nice to have. Anyone have a similar problem before ??
> > Keith
> > 96 Sahara 3126
> >
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 7718 From: jquade_fwb Date: 2/24/2010
Subject: Re: cat reader not working
Couple of things, test it first, voltage on the input side and voltage on the output side. Mine was OK on the input side (13 volts) and low on the output side (11 volts). The real test was the RV Tech used a set of battery jumper cables and "Jumped Around" it, and everything worked great. He not only got the Cat Computer to work, but turned all the dashboard switches and accessories on and did not get any failures (radio, heater, wipers, fans, etc., etc.). I do not think the selonoid was more than $15 from the NAPA store down the street (I walked the 5 blocks to get it). I would just take the selonoid to NAPA and let them determine part number (Should be standard GM Truck).

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "KEITH" <kdshawaii@...> wrote:
>
> John & Joyce,
> Thanks for the info...I think I have found it...was it up in the front near the fuses...seems easy to replace...anything I should know before ??
> Thanks again
> Keith
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "jquade_fwb" <jquade@> wrote:
> >
> > Keith,
> >
> > Same thing plagued us on our 1997 Serengeti. It was blowing the fuse that fed the dash panel (that was a wire shorting out), is your fuel gauge "Really Working???" Long story short, it turned out the selonoid was NOT getting the require voltage across it. The RV Tech used a multimeter to measure voltage across and it was around 13 volts going in and less than 11 going out. He then (to prove his diagnosis) used a battery jumper cable to bridge across the selonoid and the Computer had no problems. That selonoid is a standard GM part and is available (cheap) at any NAPA store. Search back here on the forum because I posted it. We now have been on two trips and no more problems (knock on wood).
> >
> > John & Joyce Quade
> > Freshwater Bay, WA
> >
> > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "KEITH" <kdshawaii@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have been on a trip from Vancouver,WA to Newport Beach...the engine reader, diagnostics on the dash has stopped working, I cant get it to turn on.......everything has been running great but it would be nice to have. Anyone have a similar problem before ??
> > > Keith
> > > 96 Sahara 3126
> > >
> >
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 7722 From: KEITH Date: 2/24/2010
Subject: Re: cat reader not working
John,
Thanks again...I got a voltage meter but want to make sure I am in the right spot...there seems to be one in the front of the rig near the fuses, small round with four posts and It looks like another back near the engine under the bed similar size but 3 posts...are we talking about the front one.....
Thanks for the help..
Keith

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "jquade_fwb" <jquade@...> wrote:
>
> Couple of things, test it first, voltage on the input side and voltage on the output side. Mine was OK on the input side (13 volts) and low on the output side (11 volts). The real test was the RV Tech used a set of battery jumper cables and "Jumped Around" it, and everything worked great. He not only got the Cat Computer to work, but turned all the dashboard switches and accessories on and did not get any failures (radio, heater, wipers, fans, etc., etc.). I do not think the selonoid was more than $15 from the NAPA store down the street (I walked the 5 blocks to get it). I would just take the selonoid to NAPA and let them determine part number (Should be standard GM Truck).
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "KEITH" <kdshawaii@> wrote:
> >
> > John & Joyce,
> > Thanks for the info...I think I have found it...was it up in the front near the fuses...seems easy to replace...anything I should know before ??
> > Thanks again
> > Keith
> >
> > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "jquade_fwb" <jquade@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Keith,
> > >
> > > Same thing plagued us on our 1997 Serengeti. It was blowing the fuse that fed the dash panel (that was a wire shorting out), is your fuel gauge "Really Working???" Long story short, it turned out the selonoid was NOT getting the require voltage across it. The RV Tech used a multimeter to measure voltage across and it was around 13 volts going in and less than 11 going out. He then (to prove his diagnosis) used a battery jumper cable to bridge across the selonoid and the Computer had no problems. That selonoid is a standard GM part and is available (cheap) at any NAPA store. Search back here on the forum because I posted it. We now have been on two trips and no more problems (knock on wood).
> > >
> > > John & Joyce Quade
> > > Freshwater Bay, WA
> > >
> > > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "KEITH" <kdshawaii@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have been on a trip from Vancouver,WA to Newport Beach...the engine reader, diagnostics on the dash has stopped working, I cant get it to turn on.......everything has been running great but it would be nice to have. Anyone have a similar problem before ??
> > > > Keith
> > > > 96 Sahara 3126
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 7731 From: jquade_fwb Date: 2/27/2010
Subject: Re: cat reader not working
You got it, the front one in the fuse/electrical bay. How did that work out for you???? Did you replace it, any more problems???

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "KEITH" <kdshawaii@...> wrote:
>
> John,
> Thanks again...I got a voltage meter but want to make sure I am in the right spot...there seems to be one in the front of the rig near the fuses, small round with four posts and It looks like another back near the engine under the bed similar size but 3 posts...are we talking about the front one.....
> Thanks for the help..
> Keith
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "jquade_fwb" <jquade@> wrote:
> >
> > Couple of things, test it first, voltage on the input side and voltage on the output side. Mine was OK on the input side (13 volts) and low on the output side (11 volts). The real test was the RV Tech used a set of battery jumper cables and "Jumped Around" it, and everything worked great. He not only got the Cat Computer to work, but turned all the dashboard switches and accessories on and did not get any failures (radio, heater, wipers, fans, etc., etc.). I do not think the selonoid was more than $15 from the NAPA store down the street (I walked the 5 blocks to get it). I would just take the selonoid to NAPA and let them determine part number (Should be standard GM Truck).
> >
> > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "KEITH" <kdshawaii@> wrote:
> > >
> > > John & Joyce,
> > > Thanks for the info...I think I have found it...was it up in the front near the fuses...seems easy to replace...anything I should know before ??
> > > Thanks again
> > > Keith
> > >
> > > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "jquade_fwb" <jquade@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Keith,
> > > >
> > > > Same thing plagued us on our 1997 Serengeti. It was blowing the fuse that fed the dash panel (that was a wire shorting out), is your fuel gauge "Really Working???" Long story short, it turned out the selonoid was NOT getting the require voltage across it. The RV Tech used a multimeter to measure voltage across and it was around 13 volts going in and less than 11 going out. He then (to prove his diagnosis) used a battery jumper cable to bridge across the selonoid and the Computer had no problems. That selonoid is a standard GM part and is available (cheap) at any NAPA store. Search back here on the forum because I posted it. We now have been on two trips and no more problems (knock on wood).
> > > >
> > > > John & Joyce Quade
> > > > Freshwater Bay, WA
> > > >
> > > > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "KEITH" <kdshawaii@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I have been on a trip from Vancouver,WA to Newport Beach...the engine reader, diagnostics on the dash has stopped working, I cant get it to turn on.......everything has been running great but it would be nice to have. Anyone have a similar problem before ??
> > > > > Keith
> > > > > 96 Sahara 3126
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 7740 From: KEITH Date: 2/28/2010
Subject: Re: cat reader not working
John,
Just getting settled in Las Vegas.. That it on my list to do today. Seems like
it should be simple. I will let you know how it worked.
Thanks again for the help...
Keith


--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "jquade_fwb" <jquade@...> wrote:
>
> You got it, the front one in the fuse/electrical bay. How did that work out for you???? Did you replace it, any more problems???
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "KEITH" <kdshawaii@> wrote:
> >
> > John,
> > Thanks again...I got a voltage meter but want to make sure I am in the right spot...there seems to be one in the front of the rig near the fuses, small round with four posts and It looks like another back near the engine under the bed similar size but 3 posts...are we talking about the front one.....
> > Thanks for the help..
> > Keith
> >
> > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "jquade_fwb" <jquade@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Couple of things, test it first, voltage on the input side and voltage on the output side. Mine was OK on the input side (13 volts) and low on the output side (11 volts). The real test was the RV Tech used a set of battery jumper cables and "Jumped Around" it, and everything worked great. He not only got the Cat Computer to work, but turned all the dashboard switches and accessories on and did not get any failures (radio, heater, wipers, fans, etc., etc.). I do not think the selonoid was more than $15 from the NAPA store down the street (I walked the 5 blocks to get it). I would just take the selonoid to NAPA and let them determine part number (Should be standard GM Truck).
> > >
> > > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "KEITH" <kdshawaii@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > John & Joyce,
> > > > Thanks for the info...I think I have found it...was it up in the front near the fuses...seems easy to replace...anything I should know before ??
> > > > Thanks again
> > > > Keith
> > > >
> > > > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "jquade_fwb" <jquade@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Keith,
> > > > >
> > > > > Same thing plagued us on our 1997 Serengeti. It was blowing the fuse that fed the dash panel (that was a wire shorting out), is your fuel gauge "Really Working???" Long story short, it turned out the selonoid was NOT getting the require voltage across it. The RV Tech used a multimeter to measure voltage across and it was around 13 volts going in and less than 11 going out. He then (to prove his diagnosis) used a battery jumper cable to bridge across the selonoid and the Computer had no problems. That selonoid is a standard GM part and is available (cheap) at any NAPA store. Search back here on the forum because I posted it. We now have been on two trips and no more problems (knock on wood).
> > > > >
> > > > > John & Joyce Quade
> > > > > Freshwater Bay, WA
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "KEITH" <kdshawaii@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have been on a trip from Vancouver,WA to Newport Beach...the engine reader, diagnostics on the dash has stopped working, I cant get it to turn on.......everything has been running great but it would be nice to have. Anyone have a similar problem before ??
> > > > > > Keith
> > > > > > 96 Sahara 3126
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 7750 From: KEITH Date: 3/1/2010
Subject: Re: cat reader not working
O well...changed out the solenoid, but no luck on the cat reader...any other thought would be great....
Keith
96 Sahara 3126


--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "KEITH" <kdshawaii@...> wrote:
>
> John,
> Thanks again...I got a voltage meter but want to make sure I am in the right spot...there seems to be one in the front of the rig near the fuses, small round with four posts and It looks like another back near the engine under the bed similar size but 3 posts...are we talking about the front one.....
> Thanks for the help..
> Keith
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "jquade_fwb" <jquade@> wrote:
> >
> > Couple of things, test it first, voltage on the input side and voltage on the output side. Mine was OK on the input side (13 volts) and low on the output side (11 volts). The real test was the RV Tech used a set of battery jumper cables and "Jumped Around" it, and everything worked great. He not only got the Cat Computer to work, but turned all the dashboard switches and accessories on and did not get any failures (radio, heater, wipers, fans, etc., etc.). I do not think the selonoid was more than $15 from the NAPA store down the street (I walked the 5 blocks to get it). I would just take the selonoid to NAPA and let them determine part number (Should be standard GM Truck).
> >
> > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "KEITH" <kdshawaii@> wrote:
> > >
> > > John & Joyce,
> > > Thanks for the info...I think I have found it...was it up in the front near the fuses...seems easy to replace...anything I should know before ??
> > > Thanks again
> > > Keith
> > >
> > > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "jquade_fwb" <jquade@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Keith,
> > > >
> > > > Same thing plagued us on our 1997 Serengeti. It was blowing the fuse that fed the dash panel (that was a wire shorting out), is your fuel gauge "Really Working???" Long story short, it turned out the selonoid was NOT getting the require voltage across it. The RV Tech used a multimeter to measure voltage across and it was around 13 volts going in and less than 11 going out. He then (to prove his diagnosis) used a battery jumper cable to bridge across the selonoid and the Computer had no problems. That selonoid is a standard GM part and is available (cheap) at any NAPA store. Search back here on the forum because I posted it. We now have been on two trips and no more problems (knock on wood).
> > > >
> > > > John & Joyce Quade
> > > > Freshwater Bay, WA
> > > >
> > > > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "KEITH" <kdshawaii@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > I have been on a trip from Vancouver,WA to Newport Beach...the engine reader, diagnostics on the dash has stopped working, I cant get it to turn on.......everything has been running great but it would be nice to have. Anyone have a similar problem before ??
> > > > > Keith
> > > > > 96 Sahara 3126
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 7751 From: jquade_fwb Date: 3/3/2010
Subject: Re: cat reader not working
Rats, then I would look for shorted/frayed wire(s) going from that electrical bay to the dash. They did find one on mine that kept blowing fuses. And make sure you check all the fuses, especially the ones in the top segment.

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "KEITH" <kdshawaii@...> wrote:
>
> O well...changed out the solenoid, but no luck on the cat reader...any other thought would be great....
> Keith
> 96 Sahara 3126
>
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "KEITH" <kdshawaii@> wrote:
> >
> > John,
> > Thanks again...I got a voltage meter but want to make sure I am in the right spot...there seems to be one in the front of the rig near the fuses, small round with four posts and It looks like another back near the engine under the bed similar size but 3 posts...are we talking about the front one.....
> > Thanks for the help..
> > Keith
> >
> > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "jquade_fwb" <jquade@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Couple of things, test it first, voltage on the input side and voltage on the output side. Mine was OK on the input side (13 volts) and low on the output side (11 volts). The real test was the RV Tech used a set of battery jumper cables and "Jumped Around" it, and everything worked great. He not only got the Cat Computer to work, but turned all the dashboard switches and accessories on and did not get any failures (radio, heater, wipers, fans, etc., etc.). I do not think the selonoid was more than $15 from the NAPA store down the street (I walked the 5 blocks to get it). I would just take the selonoid to NAPA and let them determine part number (Should be standard GM Truck).
> > >
> > > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "KEITH" <kdshawaii@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > John & Joyce,
> > > > Thanks for the info...I think I have found it...was it up in the front near the fuses...seems easy to replace...anything I should know before ??
> > > > Thanks again
> > > > Keith
> > > >
> > > > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "jquade_fwb" <jquade@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Keith,
> > > > >
> > > > > Same thing plagued us on our 1997 Serengeti. It was blowing the fuse that fed the dash panel (that was a wire shorting out), is your fuel gauge "Really Working???" Long story short, it turned out the selonoid was NOT getting the require voltage across it. The RV Tech used a multimeter to measure voltage across and it was around 13 volts going in and less than 11 going out. He then (to prove his diagnosis) used a battery jumper cable to bridge across the selonoid and the Computer had no problems. That selonoid is a standard GM part and is available (cheap) at any NAPA store. Search back here on the forum because I posted it. We now have been on two trips and no more problems (knock on wood).
> > > > >
> > > > > John & Joyce Quade
> > > > > Freshwater Bay, WA
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "KEITH" <kdshawaii@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have been on a trip from Vancouver,WA to Newport Beach...the engine reader, diagnostics on the dash has stopped working, I cant get it to turn on.......everything has been running great but it would be nice to have. Anyone have a similar problem before ??
> > > > > > Keith
> > > > > > 96 Sahara 3126
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 7752 From: KEITH Date: 3/5/2010
Subject: Re: cat reader not working
Thanks John...I will go through that area and see what I can find

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "jquade_fwb" <jquade@...> wrote:
>
> Rats, then I would look for shorted/frayed wire(s) going from that electrical bay to the dash. They did find one on mine that kept blowing fuses. And make sure you check all the fuses, especially the ones in the top segment.
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "KEITH" <kdshawaii@> wrote:
> >
> > O well...changed out the solenoid, but no luck on the cat reader...any other thought would be great....
> > Keith
> > 96 Sahara 3126
> >
> >
> > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "KEITH" <kdshawaii@> wrote:
> > >
> > > John,
> > > Thanks again...I got a voltage meter but want to make sure I am in the right spot...there seems to be one in the front of the rig near the fuses, small round with four posts and It looks like another back near the engine under the bed similar size but 3 posts...are we talking about the front one.....
> > > Thanks for the help..
> > > Keith
> > >
> > > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "jquade_fwb" <jquade@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Couple of things, test it first, voltage on the input side and voltage on the output side. Mine was OK on the input side (13 volts) and low on the output side (11 volts). The real test was the RV Tech used a set of battery jumper cables and "Jumped Around" it, and everything worked great. He not only got the Cat Computer to work, but turned all the dashboard switches and accessories on and did not get any failures (radio, heater, wipers, fans, etc., etc.). I do not think the selonoid was more than $15 from the NAPA store down the street (I walked the 5 blocks to get it). I would just take the selonoid to NAPA and let them determine part number (Should be standard GM Truck).
> > > >
> > > > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "KEITH" <kdshawaii@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > John & Joyce,
> > > > > Thanks for the info...I think I have found it...was it up in the front near the fuses...seems easy to replace...anything I should know before ??
> > > > > Thanks again
> > > > > Keith
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "jquade_fwb" <jquade@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Keith,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Same thing plagued us on our 1997 Serengeti. It was blowing the fuse that fed the dash panel (that was a wire shorting out), is your fuel gauge "Really Working???" Long story short, it turned out the selonoid was NOT getting the require voltage across it. The RV Tech used a multimeter to measure voltage across and it was around 13 volts going in and less than 11 going out. He then (to prove his diagnosis) used a battery jumper cable to bridge across the selonoid and the Computer had no problems. That selonoid is a standard GM part and is available (cheap) at any NAPA store. Search back here on the forum because I posted it. We now have been on two trips and no more problems (knock on wood).
> > > > > >
> > > > > > John & Joyce Quade
> > > > > > Freshwater Bay, WA
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "KEITH" <kdshawaii@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > I have been on a trip from Vancouver,WA to Newport Beach...the engine reader, diagnostics on the dash has stopped working, I cant get it to turn on.......everything has been running great but it would be nice to have. Anyone have a similar problem before ??
> > > > > > > Keith
> > > > > > > 96 Sahara 3126
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 8896 From: Greg Date: 7/26/2010
Subject: Fuel gauge problems
Hi Guys

I have been traveling in Alaska for the last month and a half in my 99 Safari Sahara. Up to this point my coach has been pretty reliable. Up to this point! Like I say the coach for the first 135,000 miles has been pretty reliable. So far I have had the alternator go out. I have lost a water pump belt. I have had the pulley assembly which holds the cooling fan pull away from the block shattering the fan and ruining the serpentine belt. ( By some miracle, the radiator was not destroyed. I have had the surge tank split open and have to be replaced. My PacBrake compressor has started to leak. Today, my latest is that my fuel gauge has gone on the fritz.

Regarding the fuel gauge. I did some investigating and determined that the gauge is good. If I ground the terminal from the sending unit the gauge goes to empty. The needle now shows all the way past the full which I would assume means an open circuit. I am assuming that the sending unit has gone bad. Has anyone done any research as to the best way to replace the sending unit?

Is there an alternative to dropping the fuel tank? Has anyone figured out if it makes any sense to go through the floor? are there any drawings or diagrams as to where the sending unit is located on the top of the tank?

Any thoughts or ideas on the subject would be greatly appreciated.

Greg Mueller
1999 Safari Sahara
Group: Safarifriends Message: 8898 From: Dick Missett Date: 7/26/2010
Subject: Re: Fuel gauge problems
Hi Greg
 
The fuel gauge on my 98  had been peaked at F for most of the 3 yrs I've owned the coach
but would occasionally work. I recently fiddled around with the two wires that go to the tank unit from behind the LF tire. Both of these wires had splice/spade connectors that I pulled apart and cleaned and the gauge has been working since. Not sure if it was the corrosion on the connectors or just moving the wires around that solved the problem and I say that because I understand that if the gauge is peaked at F it means one of the wires going to the float assembly is grounded. Anyway it worked for me and might be worth a look. I was having nightmares at the thought of dropping that tank and got lucky. Hope this might also be your issue.
 
Dick Missett
98 Sahara 300 CAT
Wyoming, PA   
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
--- On Mon, 7/26/10, Greg <gmuellerr@...> wrote:

From: Greg <gmuellerr@...>
Subject: [Safarifriends] Fuel gauge problems
To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, July 26, 2010, 2:48 PM

 
Hi Guys

I have been traveling in Alaska for the last month and a half in my 99 Safari Sahara. Up to this point my coach has been pretty reliable. Up to this point! Like I say the coach for the first 135,000 miles has been pretty reliable. So far I have had the alternator go out. I have lost a water pump belt. I have had the pulley assembly which holds the cooling fan pull away from the block shattering the fan and ruining the serpentine belt. ( By some miracle, the radiator was not destroyed. I have had the surge tank split open and have to be replaced. My PacBrake compressor has started to leak. Today, my latest is that my fuel gauge has gone on the fritz.

Regarding the fuel gauge. I did some investigating and determined that the gauge is good. If I ground the terminal from the sending unit the gauge goes to empty. The needle now shows all the way past the full which I would assume means an open circuit. I am assuming that the sending unit has gone bad. Has anyone done any research as to the best way to replace the sending unit?

Is there an alternative to dropping the fuel tank? Has anyone figured out if it makes any sense to go through the floor? are there any drawings or diagrams as to where the sending unit is located on the top of the tank?

Any thoughts or ideas on the subject would be greatly appreciated.

Greg Mueller
1999 Safari Sahara

Group: Safarifriends Message: 8904 From: Tim Ahlstrom Date: 7/27/2010
Subject: Re: Fuel gauge problems
I have a 98 Sahara 3044. I recently had to have the fuel sending unit
replaced (also speedometer, temp sending units and one temp gauge). The
mechanic was able to access the top of the fuel tank by crawling in over the
wheel well - he was a fairly small guy but was able to accomplish the task.
Only problem was when they hooked the fuel lines back up they managed to
pinch a fuel line - this created some problems with power when the tank was
low - and after replacing several fuel filters and finally just keeping the
tank full when we got back from our trip I took it back in and they found
the pinched fuel line - fixed it and no problems since. I'm not sure but
they may have had to loosen up the tank straps to get in there since they
had pinched the fuel line during the project - but they did not have to
remove the tank. I talked with the mechanic and he was about ready to ask
to ct an access hole in the floor - but managed to get it done without doing
that. If I were to do it myself I would probably have to cut through the
floor. Hope your mechanic is small enough!! Tim

--------------------------------------------------
oFrom: "Greg" <gmuellerr@...>
Sent: Monday, July 26, 2010 2:48 PM
To: <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com>
Subject: [Safarifriends] Fuel gauge problems

> Hi Guys
>
> I have been traveling in Alaska for the last month and a half in my 99
> Safari Sahara. Up to this point my coach has been pretty reliable. Up to
> this point! Like I say the coach for the first 135,000 miles has been
> pretty reliable. So far I have had the alternator go out. I have lost a
> water pump belt. I have had the pulley assembly which holds the cooling
> fan pull away from the block shattering the fan and ruining the serpentine
> belt. ( By some miracle, the radiator was not destroyed. I have had the
> surge tank split open and have to be replaced. My PacBrake compressor has
> started to leak. Today, my latest is that my fuel gauge has gone on the
> fritz.
>
> Regarding the fuel gauge. I did some investigating and determined that the
> gauge is good. If I ground the terminal from the sending unit the gauge
> goes to empty. The needle now shows all the way past the full which I
> would assume means an open circuit. I am assuming that the sending unit
> has gone bad. Has anyone done any research as to the best way to replace
> the sending unit?
>
> Is there an alternative to dropping the fuel tank? Has anyone figured out
> if it makes any sense to go through the floor? are there any drawings or
> diagrams as to where the sending unit is located on the top of the tank?
>
> Any thoughts or ideas on the subject would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Greg Mueller
> 1999 Safari Sahara
>
>
>
>
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Group: Safarifriends Message: 8929 From: Greg Date: 7/28/2010
Subject: Re: Fuel gauge problems
When I looked for the fuel sender unit on my rig it appears to be on the LF side of the fuel tank and not at the top as others have said. I also noticed that there is a hole in the frame rail. I can't get my hand in to loosen the nuts holding the sender unit into the tank but someone with a small hand and the proper tools might be able to. Has anyone with my type of side mounted sending unit tried or been successful in removing the sending unit without dropping the fuel tank? I find it interesting that they moved the sending unit from the top to the side and they happen to have a hole in which you can see the unit. It would of been nice if they had made the hole about twice the diameter.

Thanks

Greg Mueller

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, Dick Missett <dngmissett@...> wrote:
>
> Hi Greg
>  
> The fuel gauge on my 98  had been peaked at F for most of the 3 yrs I've owned the coach
> but would occasionally work. I recently fiddled around with the two wires that go to the tank unit from behind the LF tire. Both of these wires had splice/spade connectors that I pulled apart and cleaned and the gauge has been working since. Not sure if it was the corrosion on the connectors or just moving the wires around that solved the problem and I say that because I understand that if the gauge is peaked at F it means one of the wires going to the float assembly is grounded. Anyway it worked for me and might be worth a look. I was having nightmares at the thought of dropping that tank and got lucky. Hope this might also be your issue.
>  
> Dick Missett
> 98 Sahara 300 CAT
> Wyoming, PA   
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> --- On Mon, 7/26/10, Greg <gmuellerr@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: Greg <gmuellerr@...>
> Subject: [Safarifriends] Fuel gauge problems
> To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Monday, July 26, 2010, 2:48 PM
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> Hi Guys
>
> I have been traveling in Alaska for the last month and a half in my 99 Safari Sahara. Up to this point my coach has been pretty reliable. Up to this point! Like I say the coach for the first 135,000 miles has been pretty reliable. So far I have had the alternator go out. I have lost a water pump belt. I have had the pulley assembly which holds the cooling fan pull away from the block shattering the fan and ruining the serpentine belt. ( By some miracle, the radiator was not destroyed. I have had the surge tank split open and have to be replaced. My PacBrake compressor has started to leak. Today, my latest is that my fuel gauge has gone on the fritz.
>
> Regarding the fuel gauge. I did some investigating and determined that the gauge is good. If I ground the terminal from the sending unit the gauge goes to empty. The needle now shows all the way past the full which I would assume means an open circuit. I am assuming that the sending unit has gone bad. Has anyone done any research as to the best way to replace the sending unit?
>
> Is there an alternative to dropping the fuel tank? Has anyone figured out if it makes any sense to go through the floor? are there any drawings or diagrams as to where the sending unit is located on the top of the tank?
>
> Any thoughts or ideas on the subject would be greatly appreciated.
>
> Greg Mueller
> 1999 Safari Sahara
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 8937 From: stuplich@ymail.com Date: 7/28/2010
Subject: Re: Fuel gauge problems
What kind of rig are you refering to? Your information is great but useless wihtout knowing that.
Thanks,
Mel

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "Greg" <gmuellerr@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
> When I looked for the fuel sender unit on my rig it appears to be on the LF side of the fuel tank and not at the top as others have said. I also noticed that there is a hole in the frame rail. I can't get my hand in to loosen the nuts holding the sender unit into the tank but someone with a small hand and the proper tools might be able to. Has anyone with my type of side mounted sending unit tried or been successful in removing the sending unit without dropping the fuel tank? I find it interesting that they moved the sending unit from the top to the side and they happen to have a hole in which you can see the unit. It would of been nice if they had made the hole about twice the diameter.
>
> Thanks
>
> Greg Mueller
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, Dick Missett <dngmissett@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Greg
> >  
> > The fuel gauge on my 98  had been peaked at F for most of the 3 yrs I've owned the coach
> > but would occasionally work. I recently fiddled around with the two wires that go to the tank unit from behind the LF tire. Both of these wires had splice/spade connectors that I pulled apart and cleaned and the gauge has been working since. Not sure if it was the corrosion on the connectors or just moving the wires around that solved the problem and I say that because I understand that if the gauge is peaked at F it means one of the wires going to the float assembly is grounded. Anyway it worked for me and might be worth a look. I was having nightmares at the thought of dropping that tank and got lucky. Hope this might also be your issue.
> >  
> > Dick Missett
> > 98 Sahara 300 CAT
> > Wyoming, PA   
> >  
> >  
> >  
> >  
> >  
> >  
> >  
> > --- On Mon, 7/26/10, Greg <gmuellerr@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Greg <gmuellerr@>
> > Subject: [Safarifriends] Fuel gauge problems
> > To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Monday, July 26, 2010, 2:48 PM
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> > Hi Guys
> >
> > I have been traveling in Alaska for the last month and a half in my 99 Safari Sahara. Up to this point my coach has been pretty reliable. Up to this point! Like I say the coach for the first 135,000 miles has been pretty reliable. So far I have had the alternator go out. I have lost a water pump belt. I have had the pulley assembly which holds the cooling fan pull away from the block shattering the fan and ruining the serpentine belt. ( By some miracle, the radiator was not destroyed. I have had the surge tank split open and have to be replaced. My PacBrake compressor has started to leak. Today, my latest is that my fuel gauge has gone on the fritz.
> >
> > Regarding the fuel gauge. I did some investigating and determined that the gauge is good. If I ground the terminal from the sending unit the gauge goes to empty. The needle now shows all the way past the full which I would assume means an open circuit. I am assuming that the sending unit has gone bad. Has anyone done any research as to the best way to replace the sending unit?
> >
> > Is there an alternative to dropping the fuel tank? Has anyone figured out if it makes any sense to go through the floor? are there any drawings or diagrams as to where the sending unit is located on the top of the tank?
> >
> > Any thoughts or ideas on the subject would be greatly appreciated.
> >
> > Greg Mueller
> > 1999 Safari Sahara
> >
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 8943 From: Greg Date: 7/29/2010
Subject: Re: Fuel gauge problems
Sorry Mel

I have a 1999 Safari Sahara. Its a 30 foot coach with a 3126B Cat.

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "stuplich@..." <stuplich@...> wrote:
>
> What kind of rig are you refering to? Your information is great but useless wihtout knowing that.
> Thanks,
> Mel
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "Greg" <gmuellerr@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > When I looked for the fuel sender unit on my rig it appears to be on the LF side of the fuel tank and not at the top as others have said. I also noticed that there is a hole in the frame rail. I can't get my hand in to loosen the nuts holding the sender unit into the tank but someone with a small hand and the proper tools might be able to. Has anyone with my type of side mounted sending unit tried or been successful in removing the sending unit without dropping the fuel tank? I find it interesting that they moved the sending unit from the top to the side and they happen to have a hole in which you can see the unit. It would of been nice if they had made the hole about twice the diameter.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> > Greg Mueller
> >
> > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, Dick Missett <dngmissett@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi Greg
> > >  
> > > The fuel gauge on my 98  had been peaked at F for most of the 3 yrs I've owned the coach
> > > but would occasionally work. I recently fiddled around with the two wires that go to the tank unit from behind the LF tire. Both of these wires had splice/spade connectors that I pulled apart and cleaned and the gauge has been working since. Not sure if it was the corrosion on the connectors or just moving the wires around that solved the problem and I say that because I understand that if the gauge is peaked at F it means one of the wires going to the float assembly is grounded. Anyway it worked for me and might be worth a look. I was having nightmares at the thought of dropping that tank and got lucky. Hope this might also be your issue.
> > >  
> > > Dick Missett
> > > 98 Sahara 300 CAT
> > > Wyoming, PA   
> > >  
> > >  
> > >  
> > >  
> > >  
> > >  
> > >  
> > > --- On Mon, 7/26/10, Greg <gmuellerr@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: Greg <gmuellerr@>
> > > Subject: [Safarifriends] Fuel gauge problems
> > > To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Monday, July 26, 2010, 2:48 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Guys
> > >
> > > I have been traveling in Alaska for the last month and a half in my 99 Safari Sahara. Up to this point my coach has been pretty reliable. Up to this point! Like I say the coach for the first 135,000 miles has been pretty reliable. So far I have had the alternator go out. I have lost a water pump belt. I have had the pulley assembly which holds the cooling fan pull away from the block shattering the fan and ruining the serpentine belt. ( By some miracle, the radiator was not destroyed. I have had the surge tank split open and have to be replaced. My PacBrake compressor has started to leak. Today, my latest is that my fuel gauge has gone on the fritz.
> > >
> > > Regarding the fuel gauge. I did some investigating and determined that the gauge is good. If I ground the terminal from the sending unit the gauge goes to empty. The needle now shows all the way past the full which I would assume means an open circuit. I am assuming that the sending unit has gone bad. Has anyone done any research as to the best way to replace the sending unit?
> > >
> > > Is there an alternative to dropping the fuel tank? Has anyone figured out if it makes any sense to go through the floor? are there any drawings or diagrams as to where the sending unit is located on the top of the tank?
> > >
> > > Any thoughts or ideas on the subject would be greatly appreciated.
> > >
> > > Greg Mueller
> > > 1999 Safari Sahara
> > >
> >
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 9173 From: JL Date: 8/26/2010
Subject: Re: gas gauge
Pull dash top and on back of fuel gauge will be 3 wires. 1=12vdc when key is on, 2=ground, 3=sender wire. Check you have 1 and 2. Pull wire off 3. key on what does gauge read. Now short 3 to 2. read gauge. If no change and 1 and 2 OK, gauge is bad.

To check sender, Remove wire 3 from gauge. Connect meter to #3 wire and ground, Should have a resistance reading of between close to ground and 240 ohms. (depends on how much fuel you have in tank) On my '96, the sender is on top of the fuel tank and to get to it you have to drop the tank. ( it is possible you have a bad sender )

This a good explanation on how it works

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/fuel-gauge1.htm

On the gauge that stays on full and then finally drops, mine does that. I drive 200-250 miles before it moves. When on 1/2 tank I have about 25-30 gallons left. I just fill by 1/2 tank. My sender is out of adjustment, but I am not dropping the tank.

Jim
'96 Sahara

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, bubby schmitz <bbinthewoods@...> wrote:
>
>
> I know this was on here not long ago but am not too hot on this machine but gas gauge is on emty all the time..2001 zanzibar thanks bubby
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 9323 From: bubby schmitz Date: 9/12/2010
Subject: Re: gas gauge
J.L thanks it was the gauge .....Bubby
 
> To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
> From: jandlbrooks@...
> Date: Thu, 26 Aug 2010 12:30:11 +0000
> Subject: [Safarifriends] Re: gas gauge
>
> Pull dash top and on back of fuel gauge will be 3 wires. 1=12vdc when key is on, 2=ground, 3=sender wire. Check you have 1 and 2. Pull wire off 3. key on what does gauge read. Now short 3 to 2. read gauge. If no change and 1 and 2 OK, gauge is bad.
>
> To check sender, Remove wire 3 from gauge. Connect meter to #3 wire and ground, Should have a resistance reading of between close to ground and 240 ohms. (depends on how much fuel you have in tank) On my '96, the sender is on top of the fuel tank and to get to it you have to drop the tank. ( it is possible you have a bad sender )
>
> This a good explanation on how it works
>
> http://auto.howstuffworks.com/fuel-gauge1.htm
>
> On the gauge that stays on full and then finally drops, mine does that. I drive 200-250 miles before it moves. When on 1/2 tank I have about 25-30 gallons left. I just fill by 1/2 tank. My sender is out of adjustment, but I am not dropping the tank.
>
> Jim
> '96 Sahara
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, bubby schmitz <bbinthewoods@...> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I know this was on here not long ago but am not too hot on this machine but gas gauge is on emty all the time..2001 zanzibar thanks bubby
> >
>
>
>
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Group: Safarifriends Message: 10262 From: ih_guys Date: 11/22/2010
Subject: Fuel Gauge
I fueled up at our local Walmart (Murphy) with diesel, filled it to the top of the tank - you could see the fuel through the fill neck. I have done this many times before with no problems.
When I started the coach, the fuel gauge pinned itself to the full side. It went past the full mark and stuck to the pin.

Anyone seen this before, any suggestions?
I wiggled the wires behind the gauge, no change.
Have only driven it 7 miles since the fill-up.

Eric
'97 Continental 330HP
'07 Prius Toad
Group: Safarifriends Message: 10263 From: stuplich@ymail.com Date: 11/22/2010
Subject: Re: Fuel Gauge
Eric,
My fuel needle always pins when I fill it that full (often).
It can take 25-30 miles before the needle begins to wiggle when the fuel in the tank moves.
Mel
'96 Sahara, 3530, 250hp cat

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "ih_guys" <botnicke@...> wrote:
>
> I fueled up at our local Walmart (Murphy) with diesel, filled it to the top of the tank - you could see the fuel through the fill neck. I have done this many times before with no problems.
> When I started the coach, the fuel gauge pinned itself to the full side. It went past the full mark and stuck to the pin.
>
> Anyone seen this before, any suggestions?
> I wiggled the wires behind the gauge, no change.
> Have only driven it 7 miles since the fill-up.
>
> Eric
> '97 Continental 330HP
> '07 Prius Toad
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 10264 From: bubby schmitz Date: 11/22/2010
Subject: Re: Fuel Gauge
I think someone posted how to check it mine did the same thing it ended up being the gauge..Bubby
 
> To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
> From: botnicke@...
> Date: Tue, 23 Nov 2010 00:49:00 +0000
> Subject: [Safarifriends] Fuel Gauge
>
> I fueled up at our local Walmart (Murphy) with diesel, filled it to the top of the tank - you could see the fuel through the fill neck. I have done this many times before with no problems.
> When I started the coach, the fuel gauge pinned itself to the full side. It went past the full mark and stuck to the pin.
>
> Anyone seen this before, any suggestions?
> I wiggled the wires behind the gauge, no change.
> Have only driven it 7 miles since the fill-up.
>
> Eric
> '97 Continental 330HP
> '07 Prius Toad
>
>
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Group: Safarifriends Message: 11511 From: Ron Date: 2/23/2011
Subject: Fuel Gauge broken
The fuel gauge on my 1998 Safari Ivory Serengeti Edition is not working. Does anyone have any suggestions on replacing it?

Thanks

Ron
Group: Safarifriends Message: 11512 From: Ron Date: 2/23/2011
Subject: Re: Fuel Gauge broken
To get to the guage do you have to take the entire dash out?>



--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "Ron" <ron@...> wrote:
>
> The fuel gauge on my 1998 Safari Ivory Serengeti Edition is not working. Does anyone have any suggestions on replacing it?
>
> Thanks
>
> Ron
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 11514 From: Herb Sweet Date: 2/23/2011
Subject: Re: Fuel Gauge broken
Attachments :
    Might not be the gauge.  What is it doing? 
     
     
     
     
    -------Original Message-------
     
    From: Ron
    Date: 2/23/2011 8:30:46 PM
    Subject: [Safarifriends] Re: Fuel Gauge broken
     
     


    To get to the guage do you have to take the entire dash out?>

    --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "Ron" <ron@...> wrote:
    >
    > The fuel gauge on my 1998 Safari Ivory Serengeti Edition is not working. Does anyone have any suggestions on replacing it?
    >
    > Thanks
    >
    > Ron
    >

     
    Group: Safarifriends Message: 11515 From: Ron Date: 2/23/2011
    Subject: Re: Fuel Gauge broken
    The gauge shows that is has a full tank all the time.




    --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "Herb Sweet" <hsweet1234@...> wrote:
    >
    > Might not be the gauge. What is it doing?
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > -------Original Message-------
    >
    > From: Ron
    > Date: 2/23/2011 8:30:46 PM
    > To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [Safarifriends] Re: Fuel Gauge broken
    >
    >
    >
    > To get to the guage do you have to take the entire dash out?>
    >
    > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "Ron" <ron@> wrote:
    > >
    > > The fuel gauge on my 1998 Safari Ivory Serengeti Edition is not working.
    > Does anyone have any suggestions on replacing it?
    > >
    > > Thanks
    > >
    > > Ron
    > >
    >
    Group: Safarifriends Message: 11517 From: Gary Smith Date: 2/23/2011
    Subject: Re: Fuel Gauge broken
    The sending unit is physically located in the tank.  Likely it will have to be dropped to get to the top of the tank and remove the sender.  Quite likely a task for a processional, but some owners are up to it.

    Sent from Gary's iPhone


    On Feb 23, 2011, at 9:46 PM, "Ron" <ron@...> wrote:

     


    The gauge shows that is has a full tank all the time.

    --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "Herb Sweet" <hsweet1234@...> wrote:
    >
    > Might not be the gauge. What is it doing?
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > -------Original Message-------
    >
    > From: Ron
    > Date: 2/23/2011 8:30:46 PM
    > To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    > Subject: [Safarifriends] Re: Fuel Gauge broken
    >
    >
    >
    > To get to the guage do you have to take the entire dash out?>
    >
    > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "Ron" <ron@> wrote:
    > >
    > > The fuel gauge on my 1998 Safari Ivory Serengeti Edition is not working.
    > Does anyone have any suggestions on replacing it?
    > >
    > > Thanks
    > >
    > > Ron
    > >
    >
    Group: Safarifriends Message: 11521 From: g umstead Date: 2/24/2011
    Subject: Re: Fuel Gauge broken
     
    check to see if the sending unit is on top or on the side of the fuel tank.  On my 2000 Seregenti. the sending unit was on the drivers side.  Just look over the drivers side wheel to see if there are two wires going to the unit.  It has six nuts holding the sending unit to the tank.  If so, just remove the wires and six nuts.  It will come out and easy to replace.  Most of the older Safari's had the unit mounted on top of the tank.  Thats a problem and you have to remove the tank.  Good luck
     
    George


    ON THE ROAD TO SOMEPLACE


    From: TERRY SELVIDGE <selvidge@...>
    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 10:37:04 PM
    Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] Re: Fuel Gauge broken

     



    RON IVE HAD THE SAME fg problem for years, i think its the
    GROUND wire?????????? Terry

    "Ron" <ron@...> wrote:

    > Gary,
    >
    > can you explain the sending unit? Is this something I
    >can fix or is it something I need to take in to a shop?
    >
    >
    >
    > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "Gary Smith"
    ><trekker01@...> wrote:
    >>
    >> Ron,
    >> Before you go tearing into the instrument panel, you
    >>might want to check to see if the problem is your sending
    >>unit, which is inside the fuel tank.
    >> Gary
    >>
    >
    >


    Group: Safarifriends Message: 11522 From: Herb Sweet Date: 2/24/2011
    Subject: Re: Fuel Gauge broken
    Attachments :
      Do a couple of test first.  If you can find the sending unit disconnect the wire and do an ohm check.  The fuller the tank the less resistance you will have.  I have seen where the wire has a break in the sending unit and will work as fuel level drops below the break.  In your case if it always reads full sounds more like you have lost ground to sending unit.  If you do remove  unit from tank be sure fuel level is well below sending unit or you will have quit a mess 
       
       
       
       
      -------Original Message-------
       
      From: g umstead
      Date: 02/24/11 07:08:24
      Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] Re: Fuel Gauge broken
       
       

       
      check to see if the sending unit is on top or on the side of the fuel tank.  On my 2000 Seregenti. the sending unit was on the drivers side.  Just look over the drivers side wheel to see if there are two wires going to the unit.  It has six nuts holding the sending unit to the tank.  If so, just remove the wires and six nuts.  It will come out and easy to replace.  Most of the older Safari's had the unit mounted on top of the tank.  Thats a problem and you have to remove the tank.  Good luck
       
      George


      ON THE ROAD TO SOMEPLACE


      From: TERRY SELVIDGE <selvidge@...>
      To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
      Sent: Wed, February 23, 2011 10:37:04 PM
      Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] Re: Fuel Gauge broken

       



      RON IVE HAD THE SAME fg problem for years, i think its the
      GROUND wire?????????? Terry

      "Ron" <ron@...> wrote:

      > Gary,
      >
      > can you explain the sending unit? Is this something I
      >can fix or is it something I need to take in to a shop?
      >
      >
      >
      > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "Gary Smith"
      ><trekker01@...> wrote:
      >>
      >> Ron,
      >> Before you go tearing into the instrument panel, you
      >>might want to check to see if the problem is your sending
      >>unit, which is inside the fuel tank.
      >> Gary
      >>
      >
      >


       
      Group: Safarifriends Message: 11541 From: Dick Missett Date: 2/24/2011
      Subject: Re: Fuel Gauge broken
      Ron
      Here is a reply that I posted some time ago in regards to the fuel gauge. If you do a message search on Fuel Gauge there are numerous replies there based on others experiences that may be helpful.
       
      Dick Missett

       
      The fuel gauge on my 98  had been peaked at F for most of the 3 yrs I've owned the coach
      but would occasionally work. I recently fiddled around with the two wires that go to the tank unit from behind the LF tire. Both of these wires had splice/spade connectors that I pulled apart and cleaned and the gauge has been working since. Not sure if it was the corrosion on the connectors or just moving the wires around that solved the problem and I say that because I understand that if the gauge is peaked at F it means one of the wires going to the float assembly is grounded. Anyway it worked for me and might be worth a look. I was having nightmares at the thought of dropping that tank and got lucky. Hope this might also be your issue.
       
      Dick Missett
      98 Sahara 300 CAT
      Wyoming, PA   

      --- On Wed, 2/23/11, Ron <ron@...> wrote:

      From: Ron <ron@...>
      Subject: [Safarifriends] Re: Fuel Gauge broken
      To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Wednesday, February 23, 2011, 9:46 PM

       

      The gauge shows that is has a full tank all the time.

      --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "Herb Sweet" <hsweet1234@...> wrote:
      >
      > Might not be the gauge. What is it doing?
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > -------Original Message-------
      >
      > From: Ron
      > Date: 2/23/2011 8:30:46 PM
      > To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: [Safarifriends] Re: Fuel Gauge broken
      >
      >
      >
      > To get to the guage do you have to take the entire dash out?>
      >
      > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "Ron" <ron@> wrote:
      > >
      > > The fuel gauge on my 1998 Safari Ivory Serengeti Edition is not working.
      > Does anyone have any suggestions on replacing it?
      > >
      > > Thanks
      > >
      > > Ron
      > >
      >
      Group: Safarifriends Message: 11612 From: Rod Branch Date: 3/3/2011
      Subject: Re: Fuel Gauge broken
      Ron,  I, too have a non-working fuel gauge.  I have a new sending unit and a new gauge, but feel it is too much trouble and expense to install.  My solution is to cover the fuel gauge with white electrical tape and to mark on it the odometer mileage every fill-up and to fill-up every 500 miles.  KISS solution.  Rod Branch, 31 ft 94 Safari.

      On Thu, Feb 24, 2011 at 10:38 PM, Dick Missett <dngmissett@...> wrote:
       

      Ron
      Here is a reply that I posted some time ago in regards to the fuel gauge. If you do a message search on Fuel Gauge there are numerous replies there based on others experiences that may be helpful.
       
      Dick Missett

       
      The fuel gauge on my 98  had been peaked at F for most of the 3 yrs I've owned the coach
      but would occasionally work. I recently fiddled around with the two wires that go to the tank unit from behind the LF tire. Both of these wires had splice/spade connectors that I pulled apart and cleaned and the gauge has been working since. Not sure if it was the corrosion on the connectors or just moving the wires around that solved the problem and I say that because I understand that if the gauge is peaked at F it means one of the wires going to the float assembly is grounded. Anyway it worked for me and might be worth a look. I was having nightmares at the thought of dropping that tank and got lucky. Hope this might also be your issue.
       
      Dick Missett
      98 Sahara 300 CAT
      Wyoming, PA   

      --- On Wed, 2/23/11, Ron <ron@...> wrote:

      From: Ron <ron@...>

      Subject: [Safarifriends] Re: Fuel Gauge broken
      To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
      Date: Wednesday, February 23, 2011, 9:46 PM


       

      The gauge shows that is has a full tank all the time.

      --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "Herb Sweet" <hsweet1234@...> wrote:
      >
      > Might not be the gauge. What is it doing?
      >
      >
      >
      >
      > -------Original Message-------
      >
      > From: Ron
      > Date: 2/23/2011 8:30:46 PM
      > To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
      > Subject: [Safarifriends] Re: Fuel Gauge broken
      >
      >
      >
      > To get to the guage do you have to take the entire dash out?>
      >
      > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "Ron" <ron@> wrote:
      > >
      > > The fuel gauge on my 1998 Safari Ivory Serengeti Edition is not working.
      > Does anyone have any suggestions on replacing it?
      > >
      > > Thanks
      > >
      > > Ron
      > >
      >
      Group: Safarifriends Message: 14948 From: jimlyndabrooks Date: 10/11/2011
      Subject: Re: Gas guage
      Henry, My '96 Sahara has gauges made by Datcon. They would have the senders. Look at the very bottom of your gauge and see if the word "Smart Instruments" is there. Under the word "Magnum". The word "Smart Instruments" will not be on the fuel gauge, only the gauges with the over or under warning lights. (oil pressure, water temperature, transmission temperature)

      http://www.datcon.com/products/2hdsndrs.htm

      http://www.datcon.com/Tables/SDRFuel-ta.htm

      Or fill it up every 500 miles and save the money.

      Jim
      '96 Sahara

      --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "hmbmjb" <hmbmjb@...> wrote:
      >
      > Thanks John. I did get a second opinion from a shop that I trust and they are saying that the sender unit is bad. They told me that they would have to drop the gas tank to replace the sender unit but they are concerned that they will not be able to locate another sender unit.
      >
      > Does anyone have a suggestion on where I could get the sender unit? I have been reading about the Silverleaf software. Would this be an option? How is it installed?
      >
      > Henry
      > 97 Sahara 35
      > 300 Cat
      >
      > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, John Boldt <johncurtis111@> wrote:
      > >
      > > Often times its easier to just run a new wire than try to find the damage to the old one.
      > >
      > >
      > >
      > > ________________________________
      > > From: hmbmjb <hmbmjb@>
      > > To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
      > > Sent: Thursday, October 6, 2011 6:50 AM
      > > Subject: [Safarifriends] Gas guage
      > >
      > >
      > >  
      > > New problem. Gas guage not working, ahhh the joys of new ownership. The shop tested the guage and the sender and said both work. They than said they will have to trace the wire to find the problem and that would take some time. I said, I will trace the wire. So, being a green horn where do I start "tracing" the wire? Any thoughts would be much appreciated. Thanks.
      > >
      > > Henry
      > > 97 Sahara 35
      > >
      >
      Group: Safarifriends Message: 15442 From: John Ruff Date: 11/29/2011
      Subject: Northwest RV Supply and Safari/Monaco
      I have ordered parts from these folks previously and had been happy.

      I needed a Fuel Gauge for my Safari with the word MAGNUM on it and ordered one for $25. It came but did not have a mounting bracket included so they send me one for no charge but charged me $15 shipping.

      So I hook up the gauge but it was the wrong gauge :( So I called them and bought the other gauge from them that was $45.

      They sent me the exact same gauge that I originally paid $25 for but it now cost $45. The problem was that the gauge I needed was the one I never received.

      I called and requested a refund for the gauges only because they were both wrong gauges.

      I was told they would make an exception and let me return both of them for store credit only.

      $25 for the original gauge - $45 for the second - three shipping bills of $15 each. Total $105.

      They state that parts are not returnable, and even if they send you the wrong part.

      Just a heads up - Buyer Beware.