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Group: Safarifriends Message: 15445 From: jimlyndabrooks Date: 11/29/2011
Subject: Re: Northwest RV Supply and Safari/Monaco
Group: Safarifriends Message: 15448 From: John Ruff Date: 11/29/2011
Subject: Re: Northwest RV Supply and Safari/Monaco
Group: Safarifriends Message: 15453 From: safaritrekker Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: Re: Northwest RV Supply and Safari/Monaco
Group: Safarifriends Message: 15454 From: John Ruff Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: Re: Northwest RV Supply and Safari/Monaco
Group: Safarifriends Message: 18522 From: dlldaddy@aol.com Date: 9/11/2012
Subject: Re: running lights battery drain
Group: Safarifriends Message: 18523 From: jquade_fwb Date: 9/11/2012
Subject: Re: running lights battery drain
Group: Safarifriends Message: 18778 From: John Ruff Date: 10/2/2012
Subject: Re: Vail pass, Colorado
Group: Safarifriends Message: 19276 From: beowolf_2012 Date: 11/4/2012
Subject: Re: Finding a good Service Facility (was: Buying advice for a 30ft S
Group: Safarifriends Message: 19277 From: TheMopedWhiz Date: 11/4/2012
Subject: Re: Finding a good Service Facility (was: Buying advice for a 30ft S
Group: Safarifriends Message: 19285 From: jquade_fwb Date: 11/5/2012
Subject: Re: Finding a good Service Facility (was: Buying advice for a 30ft S
Group: Safarifriends Message: 19286 From: jimlyndabrooks Date: 11/5/2012
Subject: Re: Finding a good Service Facility (was: Buying advice for a 30ft S
Group: Safarifriends Message: 19290 From: Bubba Date: 11/6/2012
Subject: Re: Finding a good Service Facility (was: Buying advice for a 30ft S
Group: Safarifriends Message: 20100 From: svenbeck@rocketmail.com Date: 1/26/2013
Subject: Re: 1996 safari sahara dash guages erratic
Group: Safarifriends Message: 20360 From: Bubba Date: 3/1/2013
Subject: Re: fuel sender not responding on Sahara
Group: Safarifriends Message: 20373 From: Rod Branch Date: 3/3/2013
Subject: Re: fuel sender not responding on Sahara
Group: Safarifriends Message: 20374 From: paulcell47 Date: 3/3/2013
Subject: Re: fuel sender not responding on Sahara
Group: Safarifriends Message: 20375 From: ART Date: 3/3/2013
Subject: Re: fuel sender not responding on Sahara
Group: Safarifriends Message: 20377 From: John Ruff Date: 3/3/2013
Subject: Re: fuel sender not responding on Sahara
Group: Safarifriends Message: 20378 From: billygoof1 Date: 3/3/2013
Subject: Re: fuel sender not responding on Sahara
Group: Safarifriends Message: 20381 From: Rod Branch Date: 3/3/2013
Subject: Re: fuel sender not responding on Sahara
Group: Safarifriends Message: 20494 From: Michael Date: 3/12/2013
Subject: Re: 1990 safari Serengeti
Group: Safarifriends Message: 20499 From: Marlene Cole Date: 3/12/2013
Subject: Re: 1990 safari Serengeti [1 Attachment]
Group: Safarifriends Message: 20502 From: stuplich@ymail.com Date: 3/12/2013
Subject: Re: Backup camera switch (was:1990 safari Serengeti)
Group: Safarifriends Message: 20504 From: Michael Date: 3/12/2013
Subject: Re: Backup camera switch
Group: Safarifriends Message: 20505 From: Michael Date: 3/12/2013
Subject: Re: Backup camera switch [1 Attachment]
Group: Safarifriends Message: 20506 From: Michael Date: 3/12/2013
Subject: Re: Backup camera switch
Group: Safarifriends Message: 20510 From: Mike & Linda Kohut Date: 3/12/2013
Subject: Re: 1990 safari Serengeti
Group: Safarifriends Message: 20513 From: Marlene Cole Date: 3/12/2013
Subject: Re: 1990 safari Serengeti
Group: Safarifriends Message: 20514 From: Gary Smith Date: 3/12/2013
Subject: Re: 1990 safari Serengeti
Group: Safarifriends Message: 20515 From: Dale Maggio Date: 3/12/2013
Subject: Re: 1990 safari Serengeti
Group: Safarifriends Message: 20516 From: Mike & Linda Kohut Date: 3/12/2013
Subject: Re: 1990 safari Serengeti
Group: Safarifriends Message: 20518 From: ART Date: 3/12/2013
Subject: Re: 1990 safari Serengeti
Group: Safarifriends Message: 20519 From: ART Date: 3/12/2013
Subject: Re: 1990 safari Serengeti
Group: Safarifriends Message: 20520 From: Gary Smith Date: 3/12/2013
Subject: Re: 1990 safari Serengeti
Group: Safarifriends Message: 20521 From: Marlene Cole Date: 3/12/2013
Subject: Re: 1990 safari Serengeti
Group: Safarifriends Message: 20522 From: Marlene Cole Date: 3/12/2013
Subject: Re: 1990 safari Serengeti
Group: Safarifriends Message: 20523 From: Marlene Cole Date: 3/12/2013
Subject: Re: 1990 safari Serengeti
Group: Safarifriends Message: 20524 From: Mike & Linda Kohut Date: 3/13/2013
Subject: Re: 1990 safari Serengeti
Group: Safarifriends Message: 21915 From: wolfe102001 Date: 6/20/2013
Subject: Re: Replacing front television and backup camera/monitor?
Group: Safarifriends Message: 22881 From: graybeard4765 Date: 8/28/2013
Subject: Re: 96 safari Continental tank capacitys
Group: Safarifriends Message: 23244 From: patsroamin Date: 9/26/2013
Subject: Re: 96 safari Continental tank capacitys
Group: Safarifriends Message: 23247 From: DOUGLAS BRANCH Date: 9/26/2013
Subject: Re: 96 safari Continental tank capacitys
Group: Safarifriends Message: 23248 From: stuplich@ymail.com Date: 9/26/2013
Subject: Re: 96 safari Continental tank capacitys
Group: Safarifriends Message: 23250 From: Herb Date: 9/26/2013
Subject: Re: 96 safari Continental tank capacitys
Group: Safarifriends Message: 25167 From: George Marsh Date: 5/21/2014
Subject: Re: 1995 Safari Serengeti - Windshield Wiper washer fluid hose
Group: Safarifriends Message: 25168 From: George Marsh Date: 5/21/2014
Subject: fuel gauge
Group: Safarifriends Message: 25172 From: Ronnie Date: 5/21/2014
Subject: Re: fuel gauge
Group: Safarifriends Message: 25177 From: George Marsh Date: 5/22/2014
Subject: Re: fuel gauge
Group: Safarifriends Message: 25180 From: DOUGLAS BRANCH Date: 5/22/2014
Subject: Re: fuel gauge
Group: Safarifriends Message: 25181 From: George Marsh Date: 5/23/2014
Subject: Re: fuel gauge



Group: Safarifriends Message: 15445 From: jimlyndabrooks Date: 11/29/2011
Subject: Re: Northwest RV Supply and Safari/Monaco
Hi,

I bought a transmission temp gauge a year ago and last month a tach.

Both times I gave them the numbers off the back of the OEM gauge along with a picture of the gauge in question.

Both gauges were exact replacements of what I needed. Both gauges came without mounting brackets. Just used the old ones.

For those of you that have never been to their place of business. The gauges are all thrown in a single box, no boxing, just loose gauges. The gauges are salvage items. The lady that handles the orders just knows what a gauge is, but nothing more.

I have had nothing but excellent service from them.

NOTE: My '96 gauges are made by Datcon.
http://www.datcon.com/products/4smart.htm

Their gauges look exactly like the OEM gauges, just the word Magnum is missing.

Jim
'96 Sahara

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "John Ruff" <j_r_ruff@...> wrote:
>
> I have ordered parts from these folks previously and had been happy.
>
> I needed a Fuel Gauge for my Safari with the word MAGNUM on it and ordered one for $25. It came but did not have a mounting bracket included so they send me one for no charge but charged me $15 shipping.
>
> So I hook up the gauge but it was the wrong gauge :( So I called them and bought the other gauge from them that was $45.
>
> They sent me the exact same gauge that I originally paid $25 for but it now cost $45. The problem was that the gauge I needed was the one I never received.
>
> I called and requested a refund for the gauges only because they were both wrong gauges.
>
> I was told they would make an exception and let me return both of them for store credit only.
>
> $25 for the original gauge - $45 for the second - three shipping bills of $15 each. Total $105.
>
> They state that parts are not returnable, and even if they send you the wrong part.
>
> Just a heads up - Buyer Beware.
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 15448 From: John Ruff Date: 11/29/2011
Subject: Re: Northwest RV Supply and Safari/Monaco
I received an email tonight saying they are letting me return the gauges minus shipping and a 10% restock fee. That is much better than go jump a rope :)

John

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "John Ruff" <j_r_ruff@...> wrote:
>
> I have ordered parts from these folks previously and had been happy.
>
> I needed a Fuel Gauge for my Safari with the word MAGNUM on it and ordered one for $25. It came but did not have a mounting bracket included so they send me one for no charge but charged me $15 shipping.
>
> So I hook up the gauge but it was the wrong gauge :( So I called them and bought the other gauge from them that was $45.
>
> They sent me the exact same gauge that I originally paid $25 for but it now cost $45. The problem was that the gauge I needed was the one I never received.
>
> I called and requested a refund for the gauges only because they were both wrong gauges.
>
> I was told they would make an exception and let me return both of them for store credit only.
>
> $25 for the original gauge - $45 for the second - three shipping bills of $15 each. Total $105.
>
> They state that parts are not returnable, and even if they send you the wrong part.
>
> Just a heads up - Buyer Beware.
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 15453 From: safaritrekker Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: Re: Northwest RV Supply and Safari/Monaco
You gotta love the internet/forums/etc./technology, they are probably monitoring this site and saw the negative thread and how that could effect other folks from ordering from them. You have to wonder how many people have been taken advantage of because companies don't think other people will know...Curt

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "John Ruff" <j_r_ruff@...> wrote:
>
> I received an email tonight saying they are letting me return the gauges minus shipping and a 10% restock fee. That is much better than go jump a rope :)
>
> John
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "John Ruff" <j_r_ruff@> wrote:
> >
> > I have ordered parts from these folks previously and had been happy.
> >
> > I needed a Fuel Gauge for my Safari with the word MAGNUM on it and ordered one for $25. It came but did not have a mounting bracket included so they send me one for no charge but charged me $15 shipping.
> >
> > So I hook up the gauge but it was the wrong gauge :( So I called them and bought the other gauge from them that was $45.
> >
> > They sent me the exact same gauge that I originally paid $25 for but it now cost $45. The problem was that the gauge I needed was the one I never received.
> >
> > I called and requested a refund for the gauges only because they were both wrong gauges.
> >
> > I was told they would make an exception and let me return both of them for store credit only.
> >
> > $25 for the original gauge - $45 for the second - three shipping bills of $15 each. Total $105.
> >
> > They state that parts are not returnable, and even if they send you the wrong part.
> >
> > Just a heads up - Buyer Beware.
> >
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 15454 From: John Ruff Date: 11/30/2011
Subject: Re: Northwest RV Supply and Safari/Monaco
I would rather think that given the opportunity - most people will do the right thing.

Special circumstances sometimes require we break steadfast rules.

John Ruff

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "safaritrekker" <cjhammond@...> wrote:
>
> You gotta love the internet/forums/etc./technology, they are probably monitoring this site and saw the negative thread and how that could effect other folks from ordering from them. You have to wonder how many people have been taken advantage of because companies don't think other people will know...Curt
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "John Ruff" <j_r_ruff@> wrote:
> >
> > I received an email tonight saying they are letting me return the gauges minus shipping and a 10% restock fee. That is much better than go jump a rope :)
> >
> > John
> >
> > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "John Ruff" <j_r_ruff@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I have ordered parts from these folks previously and had been happy.
> > >
> > > I needed a Fuel Gauge for my Safari with the word MAGNUM on it and ordered one for $25. It came but did not have a mounting bracket included so they send me one for no charge but charged me $15 shipping.
> > >
> > > So I hook up the gauge but it was the wrong gauge :( So I called them and bought the other gauge from them that was $45.
> > >
> > > They sent me the exact same gauge that I originally paid $25 for but it now cost $45. The problem was that the gauge I needed was the one I never received.
> > >
> > > I called and requested a refund for the gauges only because they were both wrong gauges.
> > >
> > > I was told they would make an exception and let me return both of them for store credit only.
> > >
> > > $25 for the original gauge - $45 for the second - three shipping bills of $15 each. Total $105.
> > >
> > > They state that parts are not returnable, and even if they send you the wrong part.
> > >
> > > Just a heads up - Buyer Beware.
> > >
> >
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 18522 From: dlldaddy@aol.com Date: 9/11/2012
Subject: Re: running lights battery drain

Thank you, another good item for me to check.  Fuel gauge isn't accurate but I was told that was normal with the age of the MH.  All other gauges work but I did notice a rhythmic pulse  in the volt meter.


-----Original Message-----
From: jquade_fwb <jquade44@...>
To: Safarifriends <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Tue, Sep 11, 2012 3:40 pm
Subject: [Safarifriends] Re: running lights battery drain

 
Is anything else (Driver's area) acting strange? Like slower than normal wipers, crazy/pegged fuel guage, etc. The day we picked up our 97 Serengeti and driving it home, I had extremely dim headlights, slow wipers, Intellidrive constantly rebooting, fuel guage pegged empty and probably other items too but I was too terrified (first time driving a MH) to notice. That was the first time I had it into Eric's RV to diagnois and correct. Initially the tech thought it was a fuse problem. He changed it and called it good. I didn't get more than a block down the street and same problems. Turned around and went back. The tech tracked down the problem as the hot lead that fed the dash as it left the Fuse Bay, went over a framerail before going to the inside of the cab was rubbing with the coach motion and was shorting out. A new wire and different routing solved that problem.

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, Dirk <dlldaddy@...> wrote:
>
> I don't think it is the headlights because when I turn on parking/running lights it drops even with headlights off. No fuses blow and it drains the chassis batteries so it is connected to them. I have been given some great information and look forward to doing more research as soon as I get time. The isolator will be the first thing I check.
>
> Sent from Dirk's i-phone
>
> On Sep 11, 2012, at 8:51 AM, "TheMopedWhiz" <themopedwhiz@...> wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > not blowing any fuses ?
> >
> > have you tested or replaced tne indivual head light sealed beams
> >
> > the head light relay could be bad
> >
> > but its hard to belief you can drop that much voltage, with a good alternator
> > with out blowing a fuse or burning some wiring
> >
> > you have to have a very heavy Current drain/load to drop voltage with a 130amp alternator on a running engine
> >
> > i wonder if something is missed wired
> > if the house batteries are not charged while driving
> > and the headlights are connected to the house batteries instead of the chassis batteties
> > it could explain this problem
> >
> > or
> >
> > your Isolator is bad, you are not getting full power from the alternator
> > and when you turn on the lights ,it pulls the batteries down
> >
> > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "DirkL" <dlldaddy@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Any suggestions out there on how to track down a short or other drain on my battery when I turn on my headlights. My volt meter drops immediately from 12 to 10 and quickly descends from there. I have only owned this Motorhome for a year and although I have driven it through 14 states already, I have been lucky to only drive during the daytime. It has only been an issue twice. This last time recently, because I thought I had it fixed. :) When I purchased it, several of the running lights were bad so I replaced them. But do not remember which ones exactly. The alternator was bad when I purchased this fixer upper, but a mechanic I trust replaced it. The batteries are new and I have a maintenance charger currently hooked to them and they test as good batteries. Thanks for any knowledge.
> > > Dirk
> > > '93 Continental model 3770
> > >
> >
> >
>

Group: Safarifriends Message: 18523 From: jquade_fwb Date: 9/11/2012
Subject: Re: running lights battery drain
Just another thought/possiility, last fall when I take the coach over to Sequim (35 miles one way), the coach started a little "hard", and the retractable (electric) steps were a little slower on retracting. Down the road I noticed on the Intellidrive, the alternator voltage output was only 11.1 to 12.5 and then would jump and stay for awhile at 13+ then bounce around again. The tech traced it to a faulty connector on the sense wire by the batteries, Snip snip, crimp crimp and all was hunky dory again. Love that Intellidrive display.

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, dlldaddy@... wrote:
>
>
>
> Thank you, another good item for me to check. Fuel gauge isn't accurate but I was told that was normal with the age of the MH. All other gauges work but I did notice a rhythmic pulse in the volt meter.
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: jquade_fwb <jquade44@...>
> To: Safarifriends <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Tue, Sep 11, 2012 3:40 pm
> Subject: [Safarifriends] Re: running lights battery drain
>
>
>
>
>
> Is anything else (Driver's area) acting strange? Like slower than normal wipers, crazy/pegged fuel guage, etc. The day we picked up our 97 Serengeti and driving it home, I had extremely dim headlights, slow wipers, Intellidrive constantly rebooting, fuel guage pegged empty and probably other items too but I was too terrified (first time driving a MH) to notice. That was the first time I had it into Eric's RV to diagnois and correct. Initially the tech thought it was a fuse problem. He changed it and called it good. I didn't get more than a block down the street and same problems. Turned around and went back. The tech tracked down the problem as the hot lead that fed the dash as it left the Fuse Bay, went over a framerail before going to the inside of the cab was rubbing with the coach motion and was shorting out. A new wire and different routing solved that problem.
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, Dirk <dlldaddy@> wrote:
> >
> > I don't think it is the headlights because when I turn on parking/running lights it drops even with headlights off. No fuses blow and it drains the chassis batteries so it is connected to them. I have been given some great information and look forward to doing more research as soon as I get time. The isolator will be the first thing I check.
> >
> > Sent from Dirk's i-phone
> >
> > On Sep 11, 2012, at 8:51 AM, "TheMopedWhiz" <themopedwhiz@> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > >
> > > not blowing any fuses ?
> > >
> > > have you tested or replaced tne indivual head light sealed beams
> > >
> > > the head light relay could be bad
> > >
> > > but its hard to belief you can drop that much voltage, with a good alternator
> > > with out blowing a fuse or burning some wiring
> > >
> > > you have to have a very heavy Current drain/load to drop voltage with a 130amp alternator on a running engine
> > >
> > > i wonder if something is missed wired
> > > if the house batteries are not charged while driving
> > > and the headlights are connected to the house batteries instead of the chassis batteties
> > > it could explain this problem
> > >
> > > or
> > >
> > > your Isolator is bad, you are not getting full power from the alternator
> > > and when you turn on the lights ,it pulls the batteries down
> > >
> > > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "DirkL" <dlldaddy@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Any suggestions out there on how to track down a short or other drain on my battery when I turn on my headlights. My volt meter drops immediately from 12 to 10 and quickly descends from there. I have only owned this Motorhome for a year and although I have driven it through 14 states already, I have been lucky to only drive during the daytime. It has only been an issue twice. This last time recently, because I thought I had it fixed. :) When I purchased it, several of the running lights were bad so I replaced them. But do not remember which ones exactly. The alternator was bad when I purchased this fixer upper, but a mechanic I trust replaced it. The batteries are new and I have a maintenance charger currently hooked to them and they test as good batteries. Thanks for any knowledge.
> > > > Dirk
> > > > '93 Continental model 3770
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 18778 From: John Ruff Date: 10/2/2012
Subject: Re: Vail pass, Colorado
I left Cheyanne Wyoming this morning and am currently in Grand Junction, Co at a KOA.

Changed my mind about bypassing this route and took the route us through Vail Colorado.

It was no big deal. And if I can make it with a 250HP Cat and a 4,800 pound Jeep; anyone should be able to do it.

It was 84 degrees outside - highest temp reached by the engine was 217 and that was for a very short period.

THE VIEW OF THE TURNING LEAVES ON THE TREES WAS AMAZING!

Next on to Bryce Canyon and then over to Las Vegas. Then home to Chandler AZ.

So far on this trip we have driven 2,000 with about 900 to go. My only repair was $1.99 for a new retaining clip to hold the pin in the towbar.

Diesel has averaged $4.12 a gallon.

Downside is that I caught a terrible cold and have had to spend extra days in RV parks trying to recover.

Last year we came into Yellowstone Park from the north entrance also towing the jeep. The bottom line is --- If it starts to heat up - keep dropping gears until it doesnt. Just don't watch your fuel gauge as it is very sad :(

John Ruff
96 Safari Sahara
250 Cat
Group: Safarifriends Message: 19276 From: beowolf_2012 Date: 11/4/2012
Subject: Re: Finding a good Service Facility (was: Buying advice for a 30ft S
Does anybody know of any good repair/service facilities near Phoenix, AZ that are familiar with Safari coaches?

The Used MH Check List from the files area (and several other sources I've seen) recommend taking a used coach to a Qualified Service Facility to have the chassis components checked (engine, transmission, radiator, suspension, shocks, brakes, exhaust, etc.). How does one go about finding a good Service Facility that understands Safari coaches?

In addition to finding a good place to do a chassis component inspection, I'm concerned that the dash a/c isn't currently working (and possibly hasn't been working for a few years). I'd prefer to see that fixed before I look at the coach because I'm worried about how much it could potentially end up costing. I've read a thread about it taking $3k to fix (fabricate a new) dash a/c on an old Safari Trek, and another thread by owners who have had their dash a/c 'fixed' at least twice (the first time a simple re-charge, the second time a new compressor) only to have it fail again within days each time. Does anyone have any tips on how much it can cost to fix the dash a/c on a 1996 Safari Sahara?

If I got the details right, the seller of the Sahara 3044 I am going to look at has said that the fuel gauge always reads full when the engine is on (but reads correct when the engine is turned off) and that the temperature and oil pressure gauges on the dash sometimes act up but the corresponding gauges on the engine itself read accurately. It sounds like that could be a bad ground somewhere. I expect a 16 year old coach to have a few issues like that, I'm hoping it is nothing serious. It seems like just getting SilverLeaf VMSpc is the easiest solution but I haven't researched VMSpc yet so I don't know much about it.

Again, any tips on how to find a good service facility near Phoenix, AZ would be appreciated.

-Brian

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "safaritrekker" <cjhammond@...> wrote:
>
...
>
> Thanks, you will be very happy with your coach. One last piece of advice is to find a repair facility that understands old Safari coaches. They will not only work on yours with pride, but can save #$ in troubleshooting. I use Evergreen RV Supply in North Seattle. Curt
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "stuplich@" <stuplich@> wrote:
> >
...
> >
> > One final WARNING!
> > Always expect EVERYTHING, (not just Cat parts... ALL parts, and ALL service and accessories), to cost much more than you think possible....... (you will seldom be wrong)!
> >
> > Good luck with your purchase of the 30' Sahara
> >
> > Mel
> > '96 Sahara, 3530
> >
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 19277 From: TheMopedWhiz Date: 11/4/2012
Subject: Re: Finding a good Service Facility (was: Buying advice for a 30ft S
look for arizona diesel

i believe they have one in or near Phoenix
we had ours rebuilt at the one in flagstaff
excellent work, fair pricing


--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "beowolf_2012" <bolaughlin@...> wrote:
>
> Does anybody know of any good repair/service facilities near Phoenix, AZ that are familiar with Safari coaches?
>
> The Used MH Check List from the files area (and several other sources I've seen) recommend taking a used coach to a Qualified Service Facility to have the chassis components checked (engine, transmission, radiator, suspension, shocks, brakes, exhaust, etc.). How does one go about finding a good Service Facility that understands Safari coaches?
>
> In addition to finding a good place to do a chassis component inspection, I'm concerned that the dash a/c isn't currently working (and possibly hasn't been working for a few years). I'd prefer to see that fixed before I look at the coach because I'm worried about how much it could potentially end up costing. I've read a thread about it taking $3k to fix (fabricate a new) dash a/c on an old Safari Trek, and another thread by owners who have had their dash a/c 'fixed' at least twice (the first time a simple re-charge, the second time a new compressor) only to have it fail again within days each time. Does anyone have any tips on how much it can cost to fix the dash a/c on a 1996 Safari Sahara?
>
> If I got the details right, the seller of the Sahara 3044 I am going to look at has said that the fuel gauge always reads full when the engine is on (but reads correct when the engine is turned off) and that the temperature and oil pressure gauges on the dash sometimes act up but the corresponding gauges on the engine itself read accurately. It sounds like that could be a bad ground somewhere. I expect a 16 year old coach to have a few issues like that, I'm hoping it is nothing serious. It seems like just getting SilverLeaf VMSpc is the easiest solution but I haven't researched VMSpc yet so I don't know much about it.
>
> Again, any tips on how to find a good service facility near Phoenix, AZ would be appreciated.
>
> -Brian
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "safaritrekker" <cjhammond@> wrote:
> >
> ...
> >
> > Thanks, you will be very happy with your coach. One last piece of advice is to find a repair facility that understands old Safari coaches. They will not only work on yours with pride, but can save #$ in troubleshooting. I use Evergreen RV Supply in North Seattle. Curt
> >
> > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "stuplich@" <stuplich@> wrote:
> > >
> ...
> > >
> > > One final WARNING!
> > > Always expect EVERYTHING, (not just Cat parts... ALL parts, and ALL service and accessories), to cost much more than you think possible....... (you will seldom be wrong)!
> > >
> > > Good luck with your purchase of the 30' Sahara
> > >
> > > Mel
> > > '96 Sahara, 3530
> > >
> >
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 19285 From: jquade_fwb Date: 11/5/2012
Subject: Re: Finding a good Service Facility (was: Buying advice for a 30ft S
Yah might try -- http://www.rvservicereviews.com/

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "beowolf_2012" <bolaughlin@...> wrote:
>
> Does anybody know of any good repair/service facilities near Phoenix, AZ that are familiar with Safari coaches?
>
> The Used MH Check List from the files area (and several other sources I've seen) recommend taking a used coach to a Qualified Service Facility to have the chassis components checked (engine, transmission, radiator, suspension, shocks, brakes, exhaust, etc.). How does one go about finding a good Service Facility that understands Safari coaches?
>
> In addition to finding a good place to do a chassis component inspection, I'm concerned that the dash a/c isn't currently working (and possibly hasn't been working for a few years). I'd prefer to see that fixed before I look at the coach because I'm worried about how much it could potentially end up costing. I've read a thread about it taking $3k to fix (fabricate a new) dash a/c on an old Safari Trek, and another thread by owners who have had their dash a/c 'fixed' at least twice (the first time a simple re-charge, the second time a new compressor) only to have it fail again within days each time. Does anyone have any tips on how much it can cost to fix the dash a/c on a 1996 Safari Sahara?
>
> If I got the details right, the seller of the Sahara 3044 I am going to look at has said that the fuel gauge always reads full when the engine is on (but reads correct when the engine is turned off) and that the temperature and oil pressure gauges on the dash sometimes act up but the corresponding gauges on the engine itself read accurately. It sounds like that could be a bad ground somewhere. I expect a 16 year old coach to have a few issues like that, I'm hoping it is nothing serious. It seems like just getting SilverLeaf VMSpc is the easiest solution but I haven't researched VMSpc yet so I don't know much about it.
>
> Again, any tips on how to find a good service facility near Phoenix, AZ would be appreciated.
>
> -Brian
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "safaritrekker" <cjhammond@> wrote:
> >
> ...
> >
> > Thanks, you will be very happy with your coach. One last piece of advice is to find a repair facility that understands old Safari coaches. They will not only work on yours with pride, but can save #$ in troubleshooting. I use Evergreen RV Supply in North Seattle. Curt
> >
> > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "stuplich@" <stuplich@> wrote:
> > >
> ...
> > >
> > > One final WARNING!
> > > Always expect EVERYTHING, (not just Cat parts... ALL parts, and ALL service and accessories), to cost much more than you think possible....... (you will seldom be wrong)!
> > >
> > > Good luck with your purchase of the 30' Sahara
> > >
> > > Mel
> > > '96 Sahara, 3530
> > >
> >
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 19286 From: jimlyndabrooks Date: 11/5/2012
Subject: Re: Finding a good Service Facility (was: Buying advice for a 30ft S
Brian, On the A/C, you could have something as simple as a bad expansion valve, or a bad compressor, that has pumped metal thru the entire system. Figure $3,000+ on the bad side at least. I had a dryer fail, stopped up the expansion valve. Was a $500 problem. It will just be a dice roll as to the cost to fix.

OR, you can run the gen set and roof air a bunch for $3,000 worth of LP.

As for chassis work, you might look for a old Workhorse Chassis repair station. They can look at stuff under it.

Probably the most important thing on the chassis is past maintenance. Has the fluids been changed, engine oil, filters, antifreeze, transmission fluid, and very important, Brake Fluid. See what color it is. It should be a light oil color. If it is black figure it might be $500+ getting the fluid flushed and calipers blown out, brake caliper saddles lubed.

IF the owner has no maintenance receipts, I'd probably pass on it. IF you are still a go on it, but no receipts, get a fluid sample from the engine, transmission, and radiator and send in to Black Stone Labs. http://www.blackstone-labs.com/ They will send you the sample kits for free, just send back to them and they can tell you if the fluids have anything in them that are a problem area.

Fuel Gauge, Not buying it reads right when off. It has a 90 gal tank, figure 7 mpg, fill up every 400 miles, that will give you a 200+ mile reserve.

Dash gauges, you can swap locations with gauges and go from there. Datcom made the gauges for Safari in '96 so senders are easy to get.

The chassis is springs, again, has it been lubed regularly? If not, you might have to pull zerks and clean out lube ports which can be a big PITA.

Look under it your self. Is everything just old looking or is there a lot of rust?

It is a 16-17 year old rig, remember you are buying yourself a hobby and trust me, things will break. IF you are handy and can fix stuff you will be fine, if you have to have everything done by $100 a hour tech's............that will get old fast.

Jim,
'96 Sahara 3540, 300 CAT

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "beowolf_2012" <bolaughlin@...> wrote:
>
> Does anybody know of any good repair/service facilities near Phoenix, AZ that are familiar with Safari coaches?
>
> The Used MH Check List from the files area (and several other sources I've seen) recommend taking a used coach to a Qualified Service Facility to have the chassis components checked (engine, transmission, radiator, suspension, shocks, brakes, exhaust, etc.). How does one go about finding a good Service Facility that understands Safari coaches?
>
> In addition to finding a good place to do a chassis component inspection, I'm concerned that the dash a/c isn't currently working (and possibly hasn't been working for a few years). I'd prefer to see that fixed before I look at the coach because I'm worried about how much it could potentially end up costing. I've read a thread about it taking $3k to fix (fabricate a new) dash a/c on an old Safari Trek, and another thread by owners who have had their dash a/c 'fixed' at least twice (the first time a simple re-charge, the second time a new compressor) only to have it fail again within days each time. Does anyone have any tips on how much it can cost to fix the dash a/c on a 1996 Safari Sahara?
>
> If I got the details right, the seller of the Sahara 3044 I am going to look at has said that the fuel gauge always reads full when the engine is on (but reads correct when the engine is turned off) and that the temperature and oil pressure gauges on the dash sometimes act up but the corresponding gauges on the engine itself read accurately. It sounds like that could be a bad ground somewhere. I expect a 16 year old coach to have a few issues like that, I'm hoping it is nothing serious. It seems like just getting SilverLeaf VMSpc is the easiest solution but I haven't researched VMSpc yet so I don't know much about it.
>
> Again, any tips on how to find a good service facility near Phoenix, AZ would be appreciated.
>
> -Brian
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "safaritrekker" <cjhammond@> wrote:
> >
> ...
> >
> > Thanks, you will be very happy with your coach. One last piece of advice is to find a repair facility that understands old Safari coaches. They will not only work on yours with pride, but can save #$ in troubleshooting. I use Evergreen RV Supply in North Seattle. Curt
> >
> > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "stuplich@" <stuplich@> wrote:
> > >
> ...
> > >
> > > One final WARNING!
> > > Always expect EVERYTHING, (not just Cat parts... ALL parts, and ALL service and accessories), to cost much more than you think possible....... (you will seldom be wrong)!
> > >
> > > Good luck with your purchase of the 30' Sahara
> > >
> > > Mel
> > > '96 Sahara, 3530
> > >
> >
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 19290 From: Bubba Date: 11/6/2012
Subject: Re: Finding a good Service Facility (was: Buying advice for a 30ft S
Look up "Western States Truck Center".
They have a shop in Tucson and I believe in Phoenix also.
I have used them on chassis/running gear in Tucson, Yuma, Portland, OR and Missoula, MT and like them.
They cannot help you with the "coach" part of the rig though.
Hope this helps,

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--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "beowolf_2012" <bolaughlin@...> wrote:
>
> Does anybody know of any good repair/service facilities near Phoenix, AZ that are familiar with Safari coaches?
>
> The Used MH Check List from the files area (and several other sources I've seen) recommend taking a used coach to a Qualified Service Facility to have the chassis components checked (engine, transmission, radiator, suspension, shocks, brakes, exhaust, etc.). How does one go about finding a good Service Facility that understands Safari coaches?
>
> In addition to finding a good place to do a chassis component inspection, I'm concerned that the dash a/c isn't currently working (and possibly hasn't been working for a few years). I'd prefer to see that fixed before I look at the coach because I'm worried about how much it could potentially end up costing. I've read a thread about it taking $3k to fix (fabricate a new) dash a/c on an old Safari Trek, and another thread by owners who have had their dash a/c 'fixed' at least twice (the first time a simple re-charge, the second time a new compressor) only to have it fail again within days each time. Does anyone have any tips on how much it can cost to fix the dash a/c on a 1996 Safari Sahara?
>
> If I got the details right, the seller of the Sahara 3044 I am going to look at has said that the fuel gauge always reads full when the engine is on (but reads correct when the engine is turned off) and that the temperature and oil pressure gauges on the dash sometimes act up but the corresponding gauges on the engine itself read accurately. It sounds like that could be a bad ground somewhere. I expect a 16 year old coach to have a few issues like that, I'm hoping it is nothing serious. It seems like just getting SilverLeaf VMSpc is the easiest solution but I haven't researched VMSpc yet so I don't know much about it.
>
> Again, any tips on how to find a good service facility near Phoenix, AZ would be appreciated.
>
> -Brian
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "safaritrekker" <cjhammond@> wrote:
> >
> ...
> >
> > Thanks, you will be very happy with your coach. One last piece of advice is to find a repair facility that understands old Safari coaches. They will not only work on yours with pride, but can save #$ in troubleshooting. I use Evergreen RV Supply in North Seattle. Curt
> >
> > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "stuplich@" <stuplich@> wrote:
> > >
> ...
> > >
> > > One final WARNING!
> > > Always expect EVERYTHING, (not just Cat parts... ALL parts, and ALL service and accessories), to cost much more than you think possible....... (you will seldom be wrong)!
> > >
> > > Good luck with your purchase of the 30' Sahara
> > >
> > > Mel
> > > '96 Sahara, 3530
> > >
> >
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 20100 From: svenbeck@rocketmail.com Date: 1/26/2013
Subject: Re: 1996 safari sahara dash guages erratic
I had similar problems with my coolant and trans temp. gauges. I tried a number of fixes and tried for months to correct the problem, without success. I finally solved the problem by getting the Silverleaf system. The fuel gauge is a little different in that it takes your in put (tank full, 100gal capacity) and calculates your range based on your usage - as I understand it. I still have to familiarize myself with making the inputs at each fill, since I don't always fill it at each stop.

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "jquade_fnwb" wrote:
>
> Had the same (it was the first) problem I with my 97 Serengeti. Turned out to be the hot wire that fed the dash. It had rubbed as it went from the electrical bay over the frame before going into the dash. I think you can search the messages I have posted for a run down on it and how it first started acting up on my drive home.
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "dwightlorenz" wrote:i(low) and engine is fine. have s,checked for loose connection at dash .
> > Where would ground connection for front end be?or loose connection at rear?
> >
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 20360 From: Bubba Date: 3/1/2013
Subject: Re: fuel sender not responding on Sahara
Our original Silverleaf unit went toes-up last month and I ordered a Scanguage-D for a replacement.
I "hard wired" the Scanguage wiring into the Silverleaf wiring, after cutting off the double plug on the Scanguage "harness" to get the signal inputs; all with help from Scanguage support. They are very helpful and great to work with.
Our fuel gauge stopped working years ago and the engine computer does a great job of tracking fuel use, which the Silver Leaf and Scanguage dutifully report.
JM2C


====================================================================

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "stuplich@..." <stuplich@...> wrote:
>
> Dwight
> If you are asking about the "ScanGauge D", I had to modify the supplied cord to make it fit the Safari/Cat 6 pin connector under the dash.
> AND I had to modify the female connectors in that cord had to be modified to make, (and maintain), electrical contact with the pins in the port.... (then it was necessary secure it with a tie-wrap).
> Once modified it will fit both/either port but it would be harder to secure it onto the port in the rear service bay.
>
> If I had it to do over again....I wouldn't....I would spend the extra $$$ for a computer and a SilverLeaf VMSpc
> However, at 129k miles I thought a $170 was enough to spend on a TOY that I had not needed for the 102k miles I had already driven my coach.
>
> BTW the ScanGaugeD does not actually "measure" your fuel level.
> As far as I can tell, it calculates, (aka guesses), fuel "used" based on data you enter.
> You can guess the fuel level... (for FREE).
> Example: @ 8MPG, 90 gallons will take you 760 miles.
> If you fill the tank every 550-600 miles, you will never run out.
> Mel
> '96 Sahara, 250hp Cat 3126
>
>
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "dwight" <d.m.lorenz@> wrote:
> >
> > Does 96 Sahara with Cat 3126 have connections for Scan unit under the dash?
> > Does Scan unit work on plug in engine service bay?
> > Thanks for info.
> > Dwight
> >
> > From: jquade_fwb
> > Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 9:37 AM
> > To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: [Safarifriends] Re: fuel sender not responding on Sahara
> >
> >
> > Forgot to add, I did the test that I posted and determined that it was the sender unit. I then opened that plate hatch and discovered that the arm the float was on had rusted and broke off nand the float was "floating around in the 80 gallon tank" and I fished it out. Replacement of tank float are rather straight forward, just follow the instructions for adjustment. My hatch/tank cover and gasket looked symetrical but turn out that it was not and I had to try a lot of different positions before everything lined up. I would suggest that before you take it off (unscrew it), use a marker on both the cover and gasket.
> >
> > --- In mailto:Safarifriends%40yahoogroups.com, "jquade_fwb" wrote:
> > >
> > > From my Bayliner Owners Boating website - doesn't have to be the sending unit (or worst case). Tap on the gauge and see whether it moves. These instruments aren't that high a quality that water or humidity doesn't hurt them.
> > >
> > > A more difficult way to test the same is to disconnect one of the wires at the sending unit and if it remains on 1/3 you know it's the instrument.
> > >
> > > The sender is relatively easy to change if it's the culprit. There's a plate with the sender mounted in the tank. Unbolt it and bolt the new one in. Make sure that you don't generate sparks while the sender hole is open. Don't want to read about you in the newspaper. The senders have a generic mounting plate and all you have to know is the height of your fuel tank. Available almost at any boating place. No need to pay the dealer prices.
> > >
> > > --- In mailto:Safarifriends%40yahoogroups.com, "dwight" wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I have traced the wire back to the side of the tank under the floor and have no resistance on meter. Have good ground on tank, but can’t see sender to check for ground on sender unit or connection from gauge.
> > > > Also have bench tested gauge with new sender ,is O.K..
> > > > Last time m/h was very low on fuel the needle did jump a couple of times.It would not settle for a reading ,but small quick jumps .I believe the connections are O.K.
> > > > I suspect the float has become waterlogged and won,t float.
> > > > The gauge reads full with ignition on, empty with off. I took a reading on the external resister on back of gauge;can,t remember the value but has resistance.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > From: John Ruff
> > > > Sent: Friday, March 01, 2013 6:29 AM
> > > > To: mailto:Safarifriends%40yahoogroups.com
> > > > Subject: [Safarifriends] Re: fuel sender not responding on Sahara
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > How do you know it is the sender?
> > > >
> > > > Does your gauge read full or empty?
> > > >
> > > > John Ruff
> > > > 96 Safari Sahara
> > > >
> > > > --- In mailto:Safarifriends%40yahoogroups.com, "dwightlorenz" wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > What is best replacement for bad sender. I would like to keep guage working .Any external sender unit?
> > > > > Any easy engine fuel line and fuel return line measurement devices that could be installed with another guage?
> > > > > Anyone replace sender unit?Does front axle have to be dropped?
> > > > > Thanks in advance for ideas.
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 20373 From: Rod Branch Date: 3/3/2013
Subject: Re: fuel sender not responding on Sahara
Very low tech solution.  Cover the fuel gauge with an erasable cover and write your fill up mileage down.  Fill tank every 500 miles or whtever you feel comfortable with.  Mine is an 80 gallon tank.   Rod 95 30'Sahara

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:02 AM, dwightlorenz <d.m.lorenz@...> wrote:
 

What is best replacement for bad sender. I would like to keep guage working .Any external sender unit?
Any easy engine fuel line and fuel return line measurement devices that could be installed with another guage?
Anyone replace sender unit?Does front axle have to be dropped?
Thanks in advance for ideas.


Group: Safarifriends Message: 20374 From: paulcell47 Date: 3/3/2013
Subject: Re: fuel sender not responding on Sahara
I use the same technique, 500 miles is a good number. My gauge says full until down half way, then works fine down to empty. Probably a fault in the resistance winding on the sender. Unfortunately, the sender is behind the frame,so would have to drop the tank to repair. Too much work. Question, the Silverleaf reads out miles per gallon, so is there a way to get total gallons used? You would have to reset to O at fillup, but it should  work?


From: "Rod Branch" <rodbranch@...>
To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2013 6:41:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] fuel sender not responding on Sahara

Very low tech solution.  Cover the fuel gauge with an erasable cover and write your fill up mileage down.  Fill tank every 500 miles or whtever you feel comfortable with.  Mine is an 80 gallon tank.   Rod 95 30'Sahara

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:02 AM, dwightlorenz <d.m.lorenz@...> wrote:
 

What is best replacement for bad sender. I would like to keep guage working .Any external sender unit?
Any easy engine fuel line and fuel return line measurement devices that could be installed with another guage?
Anyone replace sender unit?Does front axle have to be dropped?
Thanks in advance for ideas.


Group: Safarifriends Message: 20375 From: ART Date: 3/3/2013
Subject: Re: fuel sender not responding on Sahara
Rod, I've been using your method for over 4 years with the 100 gal tank on the Serengeti.  Bought a VmsPC last year before a long trip but the shipped connector was wrong for my coach.  Got the service bay connector changed but ran out of physical agility for the under dash connector so I'm back to the Rod method.  One of these days..............
 
Art
96 Seren

--- On Sun, 3/3/13, nanandpete@... <nanandpete@...> wrote:

From: nanandpete@... <nanandpete@...>
Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] fuel sender not responding on Sahara
To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, March 3, 2013, 10:59 AM

 
I use the same technique, 500 miles is a good number. My gauge says full until down half way, then works fine down to empty. Probably a fault in the resistance winding on the sender. Unfortunately, the sender is behind the frame,so would have to drop the tank to repair. Too much work. Question, the Silverleaf reads out miles per gallon, so is there a way to get total gallons used? You would have to reset to O at fillup, but it should  work?


From: "Rod Branch" <rodbranch@...>
To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2013 6:41:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] fuel sender not responding on Sahara

Very low tech solution.  Cover the fuel gauge with an erasable cover and write your fill up mileage down.  Fill tank every 500 miles or whtever you feel comfortable with.  Mine is an 80 gallon tank.   Rod 95 30'Sahara

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:02 AM, dwightlorenz <d.m.lorenz@...> wrote:
 
What is best replacement for bad sender. I would like to keep guage working .Any external sender unit?
Any easy engine fuel line and fuel return line measurement devices that could be installed with another guage?
Anyone replace sender unit?Does front axle have to be dropped?
Thanks in advance for ideas.


Group: Safarifriends Message: 20377 From: John Ruff Date: 3/3/2013
Subject: Re: fuel sender not responding on Sahara
Rod I have the 96 Safari with the ODB1 connector hooked up to VMSPC and I love it!

John Ruff
96 Safari

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, ART <tookum@...> wrote:
>
> Rod, I've been using your method for over 4 years with the 100 gal tank on the Serengeti.  Bought a VmsPC last year before a long trip but the shipped connector was wrong for my coach.  Got the service bay connector changed but ran out of physical agility for the under dash connector so I'm back to the Rod method.  One of these days..............
>  
> Art
> 96 Seren
>
> --- On Sun, 3/3/13, nanandpete@... <nanandpete@...> wrote:
>
>
> From: nanandpete@... <nanandpete@...>
> Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] fuel sender not responding on Sahara
> To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
> Date: Sunday, March 3, 2013, 10:59 AM
>
>
>
>  
>
>
>
>
> I use the same technique, 500 miles is a good number. My gauge says full until down half way, then works fine down to empty. Probably a fault in the resistance winding on the sender. Unfortunately, the sender is behind the frame,so would have to drop the tank to repair. Too much work. Question, the Silverleaf reads out miles per gallon, so is there a way to get total gallons used? You would have to reset to O at fillup, but it should  work?
>
>
>
> From: "Rod Branch" <rodbranch@...>
> To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2013 6:41:00 AM
> Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] fuel sender not responding on Sahara
>
> Very low tech solution.  Cover the fuel gauge with an erasable cover and write your fill up mileage down.  Fill tank every 500 miles or whtever you feel comfortable with.  Mine is an 80 gallon tank.   Rod 95 30'Sahara
>
>
> On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:02 AM, dwightlorenz <d.m.lorenz@...> wrote:
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> What is best replacement for bad sender. I would like to keep guage working .Any external sender unit?
> Any easy engine fuel line and fuel return line measurement devices that could be installed with another guage?
> Anyone replace sender unit?Does front axle have to be dropped?
> Thanks in advance for ideas.
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 20378 From: billygoof1 Date: 3/3/2013
Subject: Re: fuel sender not responding on Sahara
What data is available from OBD1 ???

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "John Ruff" <j_r_ruff@...> wrote:
>
> Rod I have the 96 Safari with the ODB1 connector hooked up to VMSPC and I love it!
>
> John Ruff
> 96 Safari
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, ART <tookum@> wrote:
> >
> > Rod, I've been using your method for over 4 years with the 100 gal tank on the Serengeti.  Bought a VmsPC last year before a long trip but the shipped connector was wrong for my coach.  Got the service bay connector changed but ran out of physical agility for the under dash connector so I'm back to the Rod method.  One of these days..............
> >  
> > Art
> > 96 Seren
> >
> > --- On Sun, 3/3/13, nanandpete@ <nanandpete@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: nanandpete@ <nanandpete@>
> > Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] fuel sender not responding on Sahara
> > To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Sunday, March 3, 2013, 10:59 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > I use the same technique, 500 miles is a good number. My gauge says full until down half way, then works fine down to empty. Probably a fault in the resistance winding on the sender. Unfortunately, the sender is behind the frame,so would have to drop the tank to repair. Too much work. Question, the Silverleaf reads out miles per gallon, so is there a way to get total gallons used? You would have to reset to O at fillup, but it should  work?
> >
> >
> >
> > From: "Rod Branch" <rodbranch@>
> > To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2013 6:41:00 AM
> > Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] fuel sender not responding on Sahara
> >
> > Very low tech solution.  Cover the fuel gauge with an erasable cover and write your fill up mileage down.  Fill tank every 500 miles or whtever you feel comfortable with.  Mine is an 80 gallon tank.   Rod 95 30'Sahara
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:02 AM, dwightlorenz <d.m.lorenz@> wrote:
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> > What is best replacement for bad sender. I would like to keep guage working .Any external sender unit?
> > Any easy engine fuel line and fuel return line measurement devices that could be installed with another guage?
> > Anyone replace sender unit?Does front axle have to be dropped?
> > Thanks in advance for ideas.
> >
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 20381 From: Rod Branch Date: 3/3/2013
Subject: Re: fuel sender not responding on Sahara
Glad to hear that I'm not the only KISS guy around.

On Sun, Mar 3, 2013 at 10:59 AM, <nanandpete@...> wrote:
 

I use the same technique, 500 miles is a good number. My gauge says full until down half way, then works fine down to empty. Probably a fault in the resistance winding on the sender. Unfortunately, the sender is behind the frame,so would have to drop the tank to repair. Too much work. Question, the Silverleaf reads out miles per gallon, so is there a way to get total gallons used? You would have to reset to O at fillup, but it should  work?


From: "Rod Branch" <rodbranch@...>
To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2013 6:41:00 AM
Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] fuel sender not responding on Sahara


Very low tech solution.  Cover the fuel gauge with an erasable cover and write your fill up mileage down.  Fill tank every 500 miles or whtever you feel comfortable with.  Mine is an 80 gallon tank.   Rod 95 30'Sahara

On Wed, Feb 27, 2013 at 9:02 AM, dwightlorenz <d.m.lorenz@...> wrote:
 

What is best replacement for bad sender. I would like to keep guage working .Any external sender unit?
Any easy engine fuel line and fuel return line measurement devices that could be installed with another guage?
Anyone replace sender unit?Does front axle have to be dropped?
Thanks in advance for ideas.



Group: Safarifriends Message: 20494 From: Michael Date: 3/12/2013
Subject: Re: 1990 safari Serengeti
Attachments :
    The toggle button on my dash has a little camera drawing on it between my fuel gauge and radio. Pic attached.  It turns on the 12VDC camera, but not the inverter. Someone replace the inverter with a cheaper version that doesn't have a remote switch.  TV didn't work, so I found a replacement that worked on 12VDC.

    Michael
    '93 Ivory.





    On 3/12/2013 7:55 AM, Marlene Cole wrote:
     
    Thanks Mike, no idea if camera works, didn't know there was a toggle button, will try that after work and go from there. Thanks again.

    Sent from my iPad

    On Mar 12, 2013, at 7:44 AM, "Mike & Linda Kohut" <kohutcorp@...> wrote:

     

    Hi Marlene and welcome. 

     

    The inverter would have to be turned on if the backup system is using your main TV as the monitor. 

     

    On my coach, a 2000 Sahara, the B/W back up camera is 12 volt and does not need the inverter.  It is cabled with coax into the back of the main TV which is 110 volt and does need the inverter.  There is a switch for the backup camera, that also turns on the inverter, on the left side switch cluster.  The TV needs to be turned on manually and set to receive the input from the camera feed. 

     

    If everything is set properly and it still does not work, you will have to start to check individual components.  Does the TV or monitor turn on and work?  Is there power to the camera?  Can you get a signal through the cable using another camera, such as a handicam?  If you can get a signal from another camera, your camera is bad and would need to be replaced.  I am in the process of replacing my old camera now.  It was losing contrast after it was on for a while.  I bought a replacement camera from RVCams.com.  They are very familiar with the Safari coaches and have a Safari kit replacement camera, with shipping for $151.50. I have not received it yet, so I cannot say how well it works.    

     

    Good luck,

     

    Mike    

     

    From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of marlc592
    Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 10:46 PM
    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti

     

     

    Hi, just joining this group, hoping for some help. See lots of questions answered here and hoping to get some too! First I have seen posts about the backup camera having to have inverter switch turned on, is that true for ours, we have never been able to figure out how to make it work, we have had it for two years. Good thing my husband backs up well.


    -- 
    Michael
    1993 Ivory Hi-Tech
    49K miles
    8.3 Cummins
    Group: Safarifriends Message: 20499 From: Marlene Cole Date: 3/12/2013
    Subject: Re: 1990 safari Serengeti [1 Attachment]
    My camera has a monitor , there are lots of red flip switches on left of dash but none have camera on it.


    Sent from my iPad

    On Mar 12, 2013, at 10:07 AM, "Michael" <landtamer@...> wrote:

     

    The toggle button on my dash has a little camera drawing on it between my fuel gauge and radio. Pic attached.  It turns on the 12VDC camera, but not the inverter. Someone replace the inverter with a cheaper version that doesn't have a remote switch.  TV didn't work, so I found a replacement that worked on 12VDC.

    Michael
    '93 Ivory.





    On 3/12/2013 7:55 AM, Marlene Cole wrote:
     
    Thanks Mike, no idea if camera works, didn't know there was a toggle button, will try that after work and go from there. Thanks again.

    Sent from my iPad

    On Mar 12, 2013, at 7:44 AM, "Mike & Linda Kohut" <kohutcorp@...> wrote:

     

    Hi Marlene and welcome. 

     

    The inverter would have to be turned on if the backup system is using your main TV as the monitor. 

     

    On my coach, a 2000 Sahara, the B/W back up camera is 12 volt and does not need the inverter.  It is cabled with coax into the back of the main TV which is 110 volt and does need the inverter.  There is a switch for the backup camera, that also turns on the inverter, on the left side switch cluster.  The TV needs to be turned on manually and set to receive the input from the camera feed. 

     

    If everything is set properly and it still does not work, you will have to start to check individual components.  Does the TV or monitor turn on and work?  Is there power to the camera?  Can you get a signal through the cable using another camera, such as a handicam?  If you can get a signal from another camera, your camera is bad and would need to be replaced.  I am in the process of replacing my old camera now.  It was losing contrast after it was on for a while.  I bought a replacement camera from RVCams.com.  They are very familiar with the Safari coaches and have a Safari kit replacement camera, with shipping for $151.50. I have not received it yet, so I cannot say how well it works.    

     

    Good luck,

     

    Mike    

     

    From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of marlc592
    Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 10:46 PM
    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti

     

     

    Hi, just joining this group, hoping for some help. See lots of questions answered here and hoping to get some too! First I have seen posts about the backup camera having to have inverter switch turned on, is that true for ours, we have never been able to figure out how to make it work, we have had it for two years. Good thing my husband backs up well.


    -- 
    Michael
    1993 Ivory Hi-Tech
    49K miles
    8.3 Cummins

    Group: Safarifriends Message: 20502 From: stuplich@ymail.com Date: 3/12/2013
    Subject: Re: Backup camera switch (was:1990 safari Serengeti)
    Michael
    I also leave my camera and 7" LED monitor on when driving.
    I have the same camera switch with the drawing, (different location), but the drawing is nearly worn off.

    BTW, my Sahara had a B/W camera, Steve and Karen's Serengeti was color.
    Apparently the Sahara was the "entry level" Safari, (at least it was in '96)......(B/W camera, smaller refrigerator, flush panel cabinet doors, smaller LP and diesel tanks, 250 hp engine, no Intellidrive, no 120VAC bathroom lights...the list goes on).
    Mel
    '96 Sahara 3530

    --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, Michael <landtamer@...> wrote:
    >
    > The toggle button on my dash has a little camera drawing on it between my fuel gauge and radio. Pic attached.
    >
    > Michael
    > '93 Ivory.
    Group: Safarifriends Message: 20504 From: Michael Date: 3/12/2013
    Subject: Re: Backup camera switch
    Attachments :
    Thanks for that info Mel.

    I think my '93 Ivory is a Serengeti with a few upgrades, but I'm not sure.  Corian counter tops instead of tile, leather cockpit and a few other items off of a brochure I came across.



    On 3/12/2013 1:31 PM, stuplich@... wrote:
     

    Michael
    I also leave my camera and 7" LED monitor on when driving.
    I have the same camera switch with the drawing, (different location), but the drawing is nearly worn off.

    BTW, my Sahara had a B/W camera, Steve and Karen's Serengeti was color.
    Apparently the Sahara was the "entry level" Safari, (at least it was in '96)......(B/W camera, smaller refrigerator, flush panel cabinet doors, smaller LP and diesel tanks, 250 hp engine, no Intellidrive, no 120VAC bathroom lights...the list goes on).
    Mel
    '96 Sahara 3530

    --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, Michael <landtamer@...> wrote:
    >
    > The toggle button on my dash has a little camera drawing on it between my fuel gauge and radio. Pic attached.
    >
    > Michael
    > '93 Ivory.


    -- 
    Michael
    1993 Ivory Hi-Tech
    49K miles
    8.3 Cummins
    Group: Safarifriends Message: 20505 From: Michael Date: 3/12/2013
    Subject: Re: Backup camera switch [1 Attachment]
    What is "intellidrive"?




    On 3/12/2013 2:15 PM, Michael wrote:
     

    Thanks for that info Mel.

    I think my '93 Ivory is a Serengeti with a few upgrades, but I'm not sure.  Corian counter tops instead of tile, leather cockpit and a few other items off of a brochure I came across.



    On 3/12/2013 1:31 PM, stuplich@... wrote:
     

    Michael
    I also leave my camera and 7" LED monitor on when driving.
    I have the same camera switch with the drawing, (different location), but the drawing is nearly worn off.

    BTW, my Sahara had a B/W camera, Steve and Karen's Serengeti was color.
    Apparently the Sahara was the "entry level" Safari, (at least it was in '96)......(B/W camera, smaller refrigerator, flush panel cabinet doors, smaller LP and diesel tanks, 250 hp engine, no Intellidrive, no 120VAC bathroom lights...the list goes on).
    Mel
    '96 Sahara 3530

    --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, Michael <landtamer@...> wrote:
    >
    > The toggle button on my dash has a little camera drawing on it between my fuel gauge and radio. Pic attached.
    >
    > Michael
    > '93 Ivory.


    -- 
    Michael
    1993 Ivory Hi-Tech
    49K miles
    8.3 Cummins

    -- 
    Michael
    1993 Ivory Hi-Tech
    49K miles
    8.3 Cummins
    Group: Safarifriends Message: 20506 From: Michael Date: 3/12/2013
    Subject: Re: Backup camera switch
    Never mind.  I found it.  Mine is OBD1, so no Intellidrive available. I might be able to hook up something, but that is a project for down the road.  I use an PC Based OBD2 interface to my car and truck all the time.. Great for troubleshooting and tuning.



    On 3/12/2013 2:18 PM, Michael wrote:
     

    What is "intellidrive"?




    On 3/12/2013 2:15 PM, Michael wrote:
     

    Thanks for that info Mel.

    I think my '93 Ivory is a Serengeti with a few upgrades, but I'm not sure.  Corian counter tops instead of tile, leather cockpit and a few other items off of a brochure I came across.



    On 3/12/2013 1:31 PM, stuplich@... wrote:
     

    Michael
    I also leave my camera and 7" LED monitor on when driving.
    I have the same camera switch with the drawing, (different location), but the drawing is nearly worn off.

    BTW, my Sahara had a B/W camera, Steve and Karen's Serengeti was color.
    Apparently the Sahara was the "entry level" Safari, (at least it was in '96)......(B/W camera, smaller refrigerator, flush panel cabinet doors, smaller LP and diesel tanks, 250 hp engine, no Intellidrive, no 120VAC bathroom lights...the list goes on).
    Mel
    '96 Sahara 3530

    --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, Michael <landtamer@...> wrote:
    >
    > The toggle button on my dash has a little camera drawing on it between my fuel gauge and radio. Pic attached.
    >
    > Michael
    > '93 Ivory.


    -- 
    Michael
    1993 Ivory Hi-Tech
    49K miles
    8.3 Cummins

    -- 
    Michael
    1993 Ivory Hi-Tech
    49K miles
    8.3 Cummins

    -- 
    Michael
    1993 Ivory Hi-Tech
    49K miles
    8.3 Cummins
    Group: Safarifriends Message: 20510 From: Mike & Linda Kohut Date: 3/12/2013
    Subject: Re: 1990 safari Serengeti

    Is your camera and monitor factory installed or an aftermarket add on?  Can you get the monitor to turn on?  Are any of your switches labeled? 

     

     

    From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marlene Cole
    Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 12:35 PM
    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Cc: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti

     

     

    My camera has a monitor , there are lots of red flip switches on left of dash but none have camera on it.



    Sent from my iPad


    On Mar 12, 2013, at 10:07 AM, "Michael" <landtamer@...> wrote:

     

    The toggle button on my dash has a little camera drawing on it between my fuel gauge and radio. Pic attached.  It turns on the 12VDC camera, but not the inverter. Someone replace the inverter with a cheaper version that doesn't have a remote switch.  TV didn't work, so I found a replacement that worked on 12VDC.

    Michael
    '93 Ivory.




    On 3/12/2013 7:55 AM, Marlene Cole wrote:

     

    Thanks Mike, no idea if camera works, didn't know there was a toggle button, will try that after work and go from there. Thanks again.

    Sent from my iPad


    On Mar 12, 2013, at 7:44 AM, "Mike & Linda Kohut" <kohutcorp@...> wrote:

     

    Hi Marlene and welcome. 

     

    The inverter would have to be turned on if the backup system is using your main TV as the monitor. 

     

    On my coach, a 2000 Sahara, the B/W back up camera is 12 volt and does not need the inverter.  It is cabled with coax into the back of the main TV which is 110 volt and does need the inverter.  There is a switch for the backup camera, that also turns on the inverter, on the left side switch cluster.  The TV needs to be turned on manually and set to receive the input from the camera feed. 

     

    If everything is set properly and it still does not work, you will have to start to check individual components.  Does the TV or monitor turn on and work?  Is there power to the camera?  Can you get a signal through the cable using another camera, such as a handicam?  If you can get a signal from another camera, your camera is bad and would need to be replaced.  I am in the process of replacing my old camera now.  It was losing contrast after it was on for a while.  I bought a replacement camera from RVCams.com.  They are very familiar with the Safari coaches and have a Safari kit replacement camera, with shipping for $151.50. I have not received it yet, so I cannot say how well it works.    

     

    Good luck,

     

    Mike    

     

    From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of marlc592
    Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 10:46 PM
    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti

     

     

    Hi, just joining this group, hoping for some help. See lots of questions answered here and hoping to get some too! First I have seen posts about the backup camera having to have inverter switch turned on, is that true for ours, we have never been able to figure out how to make it work, we have had it for two years. Good thing my husband backs up well.



    -- 
    Michael
    1993 Ivory Hi-Tech
    49K miles
    8.3 Cummins

    Group: Safarifriends Message: 20513 From: Marlene Cole Date: 3/12/2013
    Subject: Re: 1990 safari Serengeti
    Hi, my eqipment appears to be factory. It only has 1 cable running from monitor to camera, no other electrical source. Last time i fiddled with it the end, plug fell off the camera so it is not able to plug into cable going to monitor. My husband checked there is power in the cable getting through to camera end. Does anyone know what kind of cable it is and where i can get replacement ends?

     

    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    From: kohutcorp@...
    Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 18:23:53 -0400
    Subject: RE: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti

     

    Is your camera and monitor factory installed or an aftermarket add on?  Can you get the monitor to turn on?  Are any of your switches labeled? 

     

     

    From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marlene Cole
    Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 12:35 PM
    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Cc: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti

     

     

    My camera has a monitor , there are lots of red flip switches on left of dash but none have camera on it.



    Sent from my iPad


    On Mar 12, 2013, at 10:07 AM, "Michael" <landtamer@...> wrote:

     

    The toggle button on my dash has a little camera drawing on it between my fuel gauge and radio. Pic attached.  It turns on the 12VDC camera, but not the inverter. Someone replace the inverter with a cheaper version that doesn't have a remote switch.  TV didn't work, so I found a replacement that worked on 12VDC.

    Michael
    '93 Ivory.





    On 3/12/2013 7:55 AM, Marlene Cole wrote:

     

    Thanks Mike, no idea if camera works, didn't know there was a toggle button, will try that after work and go from there. Thanks again.

    Sent from my iPad


    On Mar 12, 2013, at 7:44 AM, "Mike & Linda Kohut" <kohutcorp@...> wrote:

     

    Hi Marlene and welcome. 

     

    The inverter would have to be turned on if the backup system is using your main TV as the monitor. 

     

    On my coach, a 2000 Sahara, the B/W back up camera is 12 volt and does not need the inverter.  It is cabled with coax into the back of the main TV which is 110 volt and does need the inverter.  There is a switch for the backup camera, that also turns on the inverter, on the left side switch cluster.  The TV needs to be turned on manually and set to receive the input from the camera feed. 

     

    If everything is set properly and it still does not work, you will have to start to check individual components.  Does the TV or monitor turn on and work?  Is there power to the camera?  Can you get a signal through the cable using another camera, such as a handicam?  If you can get a signal from another camera, your camera is bad and would need to be replaced.  I am in the process of replacing my old camera now.  It was losing contrast after it was on for a while.  I bought a replacement camera from RVCams.com.  They are very familiar with the Safari coaches and have a Safari kit replacement camera, with shipping for $151.50. I have not received it yet, so I cannot say how well it works.    

     

    Good luck,

     

    Mike    

     

    From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of marlc592
    Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 10:46 PM
    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti

     

     

    Hi, just joining this group, hoping for some help. See lots of questions answered here and hoping to get some too! First I have seen posts about the backup camera having to have inverter switch turned on, is that true for ours, we have never been able to figure out how to make it work, we have had it for two years. Good thing my husband backs up well.



    -- 
    Michael
    1993 Ivory Hi-Tech
    49K miles
    8.3 Cummins


    Group: Safarifriends Message: 20514 From: Gary Smith Date: 3/12/2013
    Subject: Re: 1990 safari Serengeti
    That one cable is a standard coax cable.  Your camera will also have a 12 volt power wire and a ground wire.

    Sent from Gary's iPhone


    On Mar 12, 2013, at 8:49 PM, Marlene Cole <marlenec592@...> wrote:

     

    Hi, my eqipment appears to be factory. It only has 1 cable running from monitor to camera, no other electrical source. Last time i fiddled with it the end, plug fell off the camera so it is not able to plug into cable going to monitor. My husband checked there is power in the cable getting through to camera end. Does anyone know what kind of cable it is and where i can get replacement ends?

     

    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    From: kohutcorp@...
    Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 18:23:53 -0400
    Subject: RE: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti

     

    Is your camera and monitor factory installed or an aftermarket add on?  Can you get the monitor to turn on?  Are any of your switches labeled? 

     

     

    From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marlene Cole
    Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 12:35 PM
    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Cc: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti

     

     

    My camera has a monitor , there are lots of red flip switches on left of dash but none have camera on it.



    Sent from my iPad


    On Mar 12, 2013, at 10:07 AM, "Michael" <landtamer@...> wrote:

     

    The toggle button on my dash has a little camera drawing on it between my fuel gauge and radio. Pic attached.  It turns on the 12VDC camera, but not the inverter. Someone replace the inverter with a cheaper version that doesn't have a remote switch.  TV didn't work, so I found a replacement that worked on 12VDC.

    Michael
    '93 Ivory.





    On 3/12/2013 7:55 AM, Marlene Cole wrote:

     

    Thanks Mike, no idea if camera works, didn't know there was a toggle button, will try that after work and go from there. Thanks again.

    Sent from my iPad


    On Mar 12, 2013, at 7:44 AM, "Mike & Linda Kohut" <kohutcorp@...> wrote:

     

    Hi Marlene and welcome. 

     

    The inverter would have to be turned on if the backup system is using your main TV as the monitor. 

     

    On my coach, a 2000 Sahara, the B/W back up camera is 12 volt and does not need the inverter.  It is cabled with coax into the back of the main TV which is 110 volt and does need the inverter.  There is a switch for the backup camera, that also turns on the inverter, on the left side switch cluster.  The TV needs to be turned on manually and set to receive the input from the camera feed. 

     

    If everything is set properly and it still does not work, you will have to start to check individual components.  Does the TV or monitor turn on and work?  Is there power to the camera?  Can you get a signal through the cable using another camera, such as a handicam?  If you can get a signal from another camera, your camera is bad and would need to be replaced.  I am in the process of replacing my old camera now.  It was losing contrast after it was on for a while.  I bought a replacement camera from RVCams.com.  They are very familiar with the Safari coaches and have a Safari kit replacement camera, with shipping for $151.50. I have not received it yet, so I cannot say how well it works.    

     

    Good luck,

     

    Mike    

     

    From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of marlc592
    Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 10:46 PM
    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti

     

     

    Hi, just joining this group, hoping for some help. See lots of questions answered here and hoping to get some too! First I have seen posts about the backup camera having to have inverter switch turned on, is that true for ours, we have never been able to figure out how to make it work, we have had it for two years. Good thing my husband backs up well.



    -- 
    Michael
    1993 Ivory Hi-Tech
    49K miles
    8.3 Cummins


    Group: Safarifriends Message: 20515 From: Dale Maggio Date: 3/12/2013
    Subject: Re: 1990 safari Serengeti
    Actually there are many varieties of co-ax.  Most common are the RG-56, RG-58, RG-59, etc.  It should be imprinted on the side of the cable.  Back in that day the connector was probably a phono connector (also called a RCA since RCA invented it.) They are readily available.

    -=Dale=-

    --- On Tue, 3/12/13, Gary Smith <trekker01@...> wrote:

    From: Gary Smith <trekker01@...>
    Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti
    To: "Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com" <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com>
    Date: Tuesday, March 12, 2013, 6:14 PM

     
    That one cable is a standard coax cable.  Your camera will also have a 12 volt power wire and a ground wire.

    Sent from Gary's iPhone


    On Mar 12, 2013, at 8:49 PM, Marlene Cole <marlenec592@...> wrote:

     
    Hi, my eqipment appears to be factory. It only has 1 cable running from monitor to camera, no other electrical source. Last time i fiddled with it the end, plug fell off the camera so it is not able to plug into cable going to monitor. My husband checked there is power in the cable getting through to camera end. Does anyone know what kind of cable it is and where i can get replacement ends?

     

    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    From: kohutcorp@...
    Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 18:23:53 -0400
    Subject: RE: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti

     

    Is your camera and monitor factory installed or an aftermarket add on?  Can you get the monitor to turn on?  Are any of your switches labeled? 

     

     

    From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marlene Cole
    Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 12:35 PM
    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Cc: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti

     

     

    My camera has a monitor , there are lots of red flip switches on left of dash but none have camera on it.



    Sent from my iPad


    On Mar 12, 2013, at 10:07 AM, "Michael" <landtamer@...> wrote:

     

    The toggle button on my dash has a little camera drawing on it between my fuel gauge and radio. Pic attached.  It turns on the 12VDC camera, but not the inverter. Someone replace the inverter with a cheaper version that doesn't have a remote switch.  TV didn't work, so I found a replacement that worked on 12VDC.

    Michael
    '93 Ivory.





    On 3/12/2013 7:55 AM, Marlene Cole wrote:

     

    Thanks Mike, no idea if camera works, didn't know there was a toggle button, will try that after work and go from there. Thanks again.

    Sent from my iPad


    On Mar 12, 2013, at 7:44 AM, "Mike & Linda Kohut" <kohutcorp@...> wrote:

     

    Hi Marlene and welcome. 

     

    The inverter would have to be turned on if the backup system is using your main TV as the monitor. 

     

    On my coach, a 2000 Sahara, the B/W back up camera is 12 volt and does not need the inverter.  It is cabled with coax into the back of the main TV which is 110 volt and does need the inverter.  There is a switch for the backup camera, that also turns on the inverter, on the left side switch cluster.  The TV needs to be turned on manually and set to receive the input from the camera feed. 

     

    If everything is set properly and it still does not work, you will have to start to check individual components.  Does the TV or monitor turn on and work?  Is there power to the camera?  Can you get a signal through the cable using another camera, such as a handicam?  If you can get a signal from another camera, your camera is bad and would need to be replaced.  I am in the process of replacing my old camera now.  It was losing contrast after it was on for a while.  I bought a replacement camera from RVCams.com.  They are very familiar with the Safari coaches and have a Safari kit replacement camera, with shipping for $151.50. I have not received it yet, so I cannot say how well it works.    

     

    Good luck,

     

    Mike    

     

    From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of marlc592
    Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 10:46 PM
    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti

     

     

    Hi, just joining this group, hoping for some help. See lots of questions answered here and hoping to get some too! First I have seen posts about the backup camera having to have inverter switch turned on, is that true for ours, we have never been able to figure out how to make it work, we have had it for two years. Good thing my husband backs up well.



    -- 
    Michael
    1993 Ivory Hi-Tech
    49K miles
    8.3 Cummins


    Group: Safarifriends Message: 20516 From: Mike & Linda Kohut Date: 3/12/2013
    Subject: Re: 1990 safari Serengeti

    You can get connectors at any Radio Shack or the electronics department of any big box store. 

     

    From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Gary Smith
    Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 9:15 PM
    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti

     

     

    That one cable is a standard coax cable.  Your camera will also have a 12 volt power wire and a ground wire.

    Sent from Gary's iPhone

     


    On Mar 12, 2013, at 8:49 PM, Marlene Cole <marlenec592@...> wrote:

     

    Hi, my eqipment appears to be factory. It only has 1 cable running from monitor to camera, no other electrical source. Last time i fiddled with it the end, plug fell off the camera so it is not able to plug into cable going to monitor. My husband checked there is power in the cable getting through to camera end. Does anyone know what kind of cable it is and where i can get replacement ends?

     


    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    From: kohutcorp@...
    Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 18:23:53 -0400
    Subject: RE: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti

     

    Is your camera and monitor factory installed or an aftermarket add on?  Can you get the monitor to turn on?  Are any of your switches labeled? 

     

     

    From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marlene Cole
    Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 12:35 PM
    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Cc: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti

     

     

    My camera has a monitor , there are lots of red flip switches on left of dash but none have camera on it.



    Sent from my iPad


    On Mar 12, 2013, at 10:07 AM, "Michael" <landtamer@...> wrote:

     

    The toggle button on my dash has a little camera drawing on it between my fuel gauge and radio. Pic attached.  It turns on the 12VDC camera, but not the inverter. Someone replace the inverter with a cheaper version that doesn't have a remote switch.  TV didn't work, so I found a replacement that worked on 12VDC.

    Michael
    '93 Ivory.




    On 3/12/2013 7:55 AM, Marlene Cole wrote:

     

    Thanks Mike, no idea if camera works, didn't know there was a toggle button, will try that after work and go from there. Thanks again.

    Sent from my iPad


    On Mar 12, 2013, at 7:44 AM, "Mike & Linda Kohut" <kohutcorp@...> wrote:

     

    Hi Marlene and welcome. 

     

    The inverter would have to be turned on if the backup system is using your main TV as the monitor. 

     

    On my coach, a 2000 Sahara, the B/W back up camera is 12 volt and does not need the inverter.  It is cabled with coax into the back of the main TV which is 110 volt and does need the inverter.  There is a switch for the backup camera, that also turns on the inverter, on the left side switch cluster.  The TV needs to be turned on manually and set to receive the input from the camera feed. 

     

    If everything is set properly and it still does not work, you will have to start to check individual components.  Does the TV or monitor turn on and work?  Is there power to the camera?  Can you get a signal through the cable using another camera, such as a handicam?  If you can get a signal from another camera, your camera is bad and would need to be replaced.  I am in the process of replacing my old camera now.  It was losing contrast after it was on for a while.  I bought a replacement camera from RVCams.com.  They are very familiar with the Safari coaches and have a Safari kit replacement camera, with shipping for $151.50. I have not received it yet, so I cannot say how well it works.    

     

    Good luck,

     

    Mike    

     

    From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of marlc592
    Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 10:46 PM
    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti

     

     

    Hi, just joining this group, hoping for some help. See lots of questions answered here and hoping to get some too! First I have seen posts about the backup camera having to have inverter switch turned on, is that true for ours, we have never been able to figure out how to make it work, we have had it for two years. Good thing my husband backs up well.

     

    -- 
    Michael
    1993 Ivory Hi-Tech
    49K miles
    8.3 Cummins

     

    Group: Safarifriends Message: 20518 From: ART Date: 3/12/2013
    Subject: Re: 1990 safari Serengeti
    I guess somewhere in this thread the model/year of your (Marlene) coach is listed but can't locate it readily.  My 96 Serengeti has RG-58, 75 ohm coax.  Connectors can be found at any Radio Shack.  Only a sharp knife and reading glasses (for me) are needed.  Not a diffucult task.
     
    Art
    96 Seren

    --- On Tue, 3/12/13, Dale Maggio <dalemaggio@...> wrote:

    From: Dale Maggio <dalemaggio@...>
    Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti
    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Date: Tuesday, March 12, 2013, 8:44 PM

     
    Actually there are many varieties of co-ax.  Most common are the RG-56, RG-58, RG-59, etc.  It should be imprinted on the side of the cable.  Back in that day the connector was probably a phono connector (also called a RCA since RCA invented it.) They are readily available.

    -=Dale=-

    --- On Tue, 3/12/13, Gary Smith <trekker01@...> wrote:

    From: Gary Smith <trekker01@...>
    Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti
    To: "Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com" <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com>
    Date: Tuesday, March 12, 2013, 6:14 PM

     
    That one cable is a standard coax cable.  Your camera will also have a 12 volt power wire and a ground wire.

    Sent from Gary's iPhone


    On Mar 12, 2013, at 8:49 PM, Marlene Cole <marlenec592@...> wrote:

     
    Hi, my eqipment appears to be factory. It only has 1 cable running from monitor to camera, no other electrical source. Last time i fiddled with it the end, plug fell off the camera so it is not able to plug into cable going to monitor. My husband checked there is power in the cable getting through to camera end. Does anyone know what kind of cable it is and where i can get replacement ends?

     

    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    From: kohutcorp@...
    Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 18:23:53 -0400
    Subject: RE: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti

     

    Is your camera and monitor factory installed or an aftermarket add on?  Can you get the monitor to turn on?  Are any of your switches labeled? 

     

     

    From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marlene Cole
    Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 12:35 PM
    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Cc: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti

     

     

    My camera has a monitor , there are lots of red flip switches on left of dash but none have camera on it.



    Sent from my iPad


    On Mar 12, 2013, at 10:07 AM, "Michael" <landtamer@...> wrote:

     

    The toggle button on my dash has a little camera drawing on it between my fuel gauge and radio. Pic attached.  It turns on the 12VDC camera, but not the inverter. Someone replace the inverter with a cheaper version that doesn't have a remote switch.  TV didn't work, so I found a replacement that worked on 12VDC.

    Michael
    '93 Ivory.





    On 3/12/2013 7:55 AM, Marlene Cole wrote:

     

    Thanks Mike, no idea if camera works, didn't know there was a toggle button, will try that after work and go from there. Thanks again.

    Sent from my iPad


    On Mar 12, 2013, at 7:44 AM, "Mike & Linda Kohut" <kohutcorp@...> wrote:

     

    Hi Marlene and welcome. 

     

    The inverter would have to be turned on if the backup system is using your main TV as the monitor. 

     

    On my coach, a 2000 Sahara, the B/W back up camera is 12 volt and does not need the inverter.  It is cabled with coax into the back of the main TV which is 110 volt and does need the inverter.  There is a switch for the backup camera, that also turns on the inverter, on the left side switch cluster.  The TV needs to be turned on manually and set to receive the input from the camera feed. 

     

    If everything is set properly and it still does not work, you will have to start to check individual components.  Does the TV or monitor turn on and work?  Is there power to the camera?  Can you get a signal through the cable using another camera, such as a handicam?  If you can get a signal from another camera, your camera is bad and would need to be replaced.  I am in the process of replacing my old camera now.  It was losing contrast after it was on for a while.  I bought a replacement camera from RVCams.com.  They are very familiar with the Safari coaches and have a Safari kit replacement camera, with shipping for $151.50. I have not received it yet, so I cannot say how well it works.    

     

    Good luck,

     

    Mike    

     

    From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of marlc592
    Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 10:46 PM
    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti

     

     

    Hi, just joining this group, hoping for some help. See lots of questions answered here and hoping to get some too! First I have seen posts about the backup camera having to have inverter switch turned on, is that true for ours, we have never been able to figure out how to make it work, we have had it for two years. Good thing my husband backs up well.



    -- 
    Michael
    1993 Ivory Hi-Tech
    49K miles
    8.3 Cummins


    Group: Safarifriends Message: 20519 From: ART Date: 3/12/2013
    Subject: Re: 1990 safari Serengeti
    OOOPS !!  Didnt read the subject line untill I had hit send.  My bad (as the younger generation says..........)
     
    Art
    96 Seren

    --- On Tue, 3/12/13, ART <tookum@...> wrote:

    From: ART <tookum@...>
    Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti
    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Date: Tuesday, March 12, 2013, 9:25 PM

     
    I guess somewhere in this thread the model/year of your (Marlene) coach is listed but can't locate it readily.  My 96 Serengeti has RG-58, 75 ohm coax.  Connectors can be found at any Radio Shack.  Only a sharp knife and reading glasses (for me) are needed.  Not a diffucult task.
     
    Art
    96 Seren

    --- On Tue, 3/12/13, Dale Maggio <dalemaggio@...> wrote:

    From: Dale Maggio <dalemaggio@...>
    Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti
    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Date: Tuesday, March 12, 2013, 8:44 PM

     
    Actually there are many varieties of co-ax.  Most common are the RG-56, RG-58, RG-59, etc.  It should be imprinted on the side of the cable.  Back in that day the connector was probably a phono connector (also called a RCA since RCA invented it.) They are readily available.

    -=Dale=-

    --- On Tue, 3/12/13, Gary Smith <trekker01@...> wrote:

    From: Gary Smith <trekker01@...>
    Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti
    To: "Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com" <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com>
    Date: Tuesday, March 12, 2013, 6:14 PM

     
    That one cable is a standard coax cable.  Your camera will also have a 12 volt power wire and a ground wire.

    Sent from Gary's iPhone


    On Mar 12, 2013, at 8:49 PM, Marlene Cole <marlenec592@...> wrote:

     
    Hi, my eqipment appears to be factory. It only has 1 cable running from monitor to camera, no other electrical source. Last time i fiddled with it the end, plug fell off the camera so it is not able to plug into cable going to monitor. My husband checked there is power in the cable getting through to camera end. Does anyone know what kind of cable it is and where i can get replacement ends?

     

    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    From: kohutcorp@...
    Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 18:23:53 -0400
    Subject: RE: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti

     

    Is your camera and monitor factory installed or an aftermarket add on?  Can you get the monitor to turn on?  Are any of your switches labeled? 

     

     

    From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marlene Cole
    Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 12:35 PM
    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Cc: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti

     

     

    My camera has a monitor , there are lots of red flip switches on left of dash but none have camera on it.



    Sent from my iPad


    On Mar 12, 2013, at 10:07 AM, "Michael" <landtamer@...> wrote:

     

    The toggle button on my dash has a little camera drawing on it between my fuel gauge and radio. Pic attached.  It turns on the 12VDC camera, but not the inverter. Someone replace the inverter with a cheaper version that doesn't have a remote switch.  TV didn't work, so I found a replacement that worked on 12VDC.

    Michael
    '93 Ivory.





    On 3/12/2013 7:55 AM, Marlene Cole wrote:

     

    Thanks Mike, no idea if camera works, didn't know there was a toggle button, will try that after work and go from there. Thanks again.

    Sent from my iPad


    On Mar 12, 2013, at 7:44 AM, "Mike & Linda Kohut" <kohutcorp@...> wrote:

     

    Hi Marlene and welcome. 

     

    The inverter would have to be turned on if the backup system is using your main TV as the monitor. 

     

    On my coach, a 2000 Sahara, the B/W back up camera is 12 volt and does not need the inverter.  It is cabled with coax into the back of the main TV which is 110 volt and does need the inverter.  There is a switch for the backup camera, that also turns on the inverter, on the left side switch cluster.  The TV needs to be turned on manually and set to receive the input from the camera feed. 

     

    If everything is set properly and it still does not work, you will have to start to check individual components.  Does the TV or monitor turn on and work?  Is there power to the camera?  Can you get a signal through the cable using another camera, such as a handicam?  If you can get a signal from another camera, your camera is bad and would need to be replaced.  I am in the process of replacing my old camera now.  It was losing contrast after it was on for a while.  I bought a replacement camera from RVCams.com.  They are very familiar with the Safari coaches and have a Safari kit replacement camera, with shipping for $151.50. I have not received it yet, so I cannot say how well it works.    

     

    Good luck,

     

    Mike    

     

    From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of marlc592
    Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 10:46 PM
    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti

     

     

    Hi, just joining this group, hoping for some help. See lots of questions answered here and hoping to get some too! First I have seen posts about the backup camera having to have inverter switch turned on, is that true for ours, we have never been able to figure out how to make it work, we have had it for two years. Good thing my husband backs up well.



    -- 
    Michael
    1993 Ivory Hi-Tech
    49K miles
    8.3 Cummins


    Group: Safarifriends Message: 20520 From: Gary Smith Date: 3/12/2013
    Subject: Re: 1990 safari Serengeti
    Art, it's in the subject line.  Sometimes we overlook that, expecting it to be in th body of the text, or in the poster's signature.
    Gary

    On Tuesday, March 12, 2013, ART wrote:
     

    I guess somewhere in this thread the model/year of your (Marlene) coach is listed but can't locate it readily.  My 96 Serengeti has RG-58, 75 ohm coax.  Connectors can be found at any Radio Shack.  Only a sharp knife and reading glasses (for me) are needed.  Not a diffucult task.
     
    Art
    96 Seren

    --- On Tue, 3/12/13, Dale Maggio <dalemaggio@...> wrote:

    From: Dale Maggio <dalemaggio@...>
    Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti
    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Date: Tuesday, March 12, 2013, 8:44 PM

     
    Actually there are many varieties of co-ax.  Most common are the RG-56, RG-58, RG-59, etc.  It should be imprinted on the side of the cable.  Back in that day the connector was probably a phono connector (also called a RCA since RCA invented it.) They are readily available.

    -=Dale=-

    --- On Tue, 3/12/13, Gary Smith <trekker01@...> wrote:

    From: Gary Smith <trekker01@...>
    Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti
    To: "Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com" <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com>
    Date: Tuesday, March 12, 2013, 6:14 PM

     
    That one cable is a standard coax cable.  Your camera will also have a 12 volt power wire and a ground wire.

    Sent from Gary's iPhone


    On Mar 12, 2013, at 8:49 PM, Marlene Cole <marlenec592@...> wrote:

     
    Hi, my eqipment appears to be factory. It only has 1 cable running from monitor to camera, no other electrical source. Last time i fiddled with it the end, plug fell off the camera so it is not able to plug into cable going to monitor. My husband checked there is power in the cable getting through to camera end. Does anyone know what kind of cable it is and where i can get replacement ends?

     

    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    From: kohutcorp@...
    Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 18:23:53 -0400
    Subject: RE: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti

     

    Is your camera and monitor factory installed or an aftermarket add on?  Can you get the monitor to turn on?  Are any of your switches labeled? 

     

     

    From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marlene Cole
    Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 12:35 PM
    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Cc: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti

     

     

    My camera has a monitor , there are lots of red flip switches on left of dash but none have camera on it.



    Sent from my iPad


    On Mar 12, 2013, at 10:07 AM, "Michael" <landtamer@...> wrote:

     

    The toggle button on my dash has a little camera drawing on it between my fuel gauge and radio. Pic attached.  It turns on the 12VDC camera, but not the inverter. Someone replace the inverter with a cheaper version that doesn't have a remote switch.  TV didn't work, so I found a replacement that worked on 12VDC.

    Michael
    '93 Ivory.





    On 3/12/2013 7:55 AM, Marlene Cole wrote:

     

    Thanks Mike, no idea if camera works, didn't know there was a toggle button, will try that after work and go from there. Thanks again.

    Sent from my iPad


    On Mar 12, 2013, at 7:44 AM, "Mike & Linda Kohut" <kohutcorp@...> wrote:

     

    Hi Marlene and welcome. 

     

    The inverter would have to be turned on if the backup system is using your main TV as the monitor. 

     

    On my coach, a 2000 Sahara, the B/W back up camera is 12 volt and does not need the inverter.  It is cabled with coax into the back of the main TV which is 110 volt and does need the inverter.  There is a switch for the backup camera, that also turns on the inverter, on the left side switch cluster.  The TV needs to be turned on manually and set to receive the input from the camera feed. 

     

    If everything is set properly and it still does not work, you will have to start to check individual components.  Does the TV or monitor turn on and work?  Is there power to the camera?  Can you get a signal through the cable using another camera, such as a handicam?  If you can get a signal from another camera, your camera is bad and would need to be replaced.  I am in the process of replacing my old camera now.  It was losing contrast after it was on for a while.  I bought a replacement camera from RVCams.com.  They are very familiar with the Safari coaches and have a Safari kit replacement camera, with shipping for $151.50. I have not received it yet, so I cannot say how well it works.    

     

    Good luck,

     

    Mike    

     

    From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of marlc592
    Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 10:46 PM
    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti

     

     

    Hi, just joining this group, hoping for some help. See lots of questions answered here and hoping to get some too! First I have seen posts about the backup camera having to have inverter switch turned on, is that true for ours, we have never been able to figure out how to make it work, we have had it for two years. Good thing my husband backs up well.



    -- 
    Michael
    1993 Ivory Hi-Tech
    49K miles
    8.3 Cummins


    Group: Safarifriends Message: 20521 From: Marlene Cole Date: 3/12/2013
    Subject: Re: 1990 safari Serengeti
    I be leave 

    Sent from my iPad

    On Mar 12, 2013, at 6:24 PM, "Mike & Linda Kohut" <kohutcorp@...> wrote:

     

    Is your camera and monitor factory installed or an aftermarket add on?  Can you get the monitor to turn on?  Are any of your switches labeled? 

     

     

    From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marlene Cole
    Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 12:35 PM
    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Cc: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti

     

     

    My camera has a monitor , there are lots of red flip switches on left of dash but none have camera on it.



    Sent from my iPad


    On Mar 12, 2013, at 10:07 AM, "Michael" <landtamer@...> wrote:

     

    The toggle button on my dash has a little camera drawing on it between my fuel gauge and radio. Pic attached.  It turns on the 12VDC camera, but not the inverter. Someone replace the inverter with a cheaper version that doesn't have a remote switch.  TV didn't work, so I found a replacement that worked on 12VDC.

    Michael
    '93 Ivory.




    On 3/12/2013 7:55 AM, Marlene Cole wrote:

     

    Thanks Mike, no idea if camera works, didn't know there was a toggle button, will try that after work and go from there. Thanks again.

    Sent from my iPad


    On Mar 12, 2013, at 7:44 AM, "Mike & Linda Kohut" <kohutcorp@...> wrote:

     

    Hi Marlene and welcome. 

     

    The inverter would have to be turned on if the backup system is using your main TV as the monitor. 

     

    On my coach, a 2000 Sahara, the B/W back up camera is 12 volt and does not need the inverter.  It is cabled with coax into the back of the main TV which is 110 volt and does need the inverter.  There is a switch for the backup camera, that also turns on the inverter, on the left side switch cluster.  The TV needs to be turned on manually and set to receive the input from the camera feed. 

     

    If everything is set properly and it still does not work, you will have to start to check individual components.  Does the TV or monitor turn on and work?  Is there power to the camera?  Can you get a signal through the cable using another camera, such as a handicam?  If you can get a signal from another camera, your camera is bad and would need to be replaced.  I am in the process of replacing my old camera now.  It was losing contrast after it was on for a while.  I bought a replacement camera from RVCams.com.  They are very familiar with the Safari coaches and have a Safari kit replacement camera, with shipping for $151.50. I have not received it yet, so I cannot say how well it works.    

     

    Good luck,

     

    Mike    

     

    From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of marlc592
    Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 10:46 PM
    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti

     

     

    Hi, just joining this group, hoping for some help. See lots of questions answered here and hoping to get some too! First I have seen posts about the backup camera having to have inverter switch turned on, is that true for ours, we have never been able to figure out how to make it work, we have had it for two years. Good thing my husband backs up well.



    -- 
    Michael
    1993 Ivory Hi-Tech
    49K miles
    8.3 Cummins

    Group: Safarifriends Message: 20522 From: Marlene Cole Date: 3/12/2013
    Subject: Re: 1990 safari Serengeti
    Monitor turns on, my husband checked the cable going to the back , but apparently last time I was investigating the problem the plug end fell off the camera wire. What kind of cable is that and where can I get replacement ends? Anyone know?

    Sent from my iPad

    On Mar 12, 2013, at 6:24 PM, "Mike & Linda Kohut" <kohutcorp@...> wrote:

     

    Is your camera and monitor factory installed or an aftermarket add on?  Can you get the monitor to turn on?  Are any of your switches labeled? 

     

     

    From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marlene Cole
    Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 12:35 PM
    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Cc: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti

     

     

    My camera has a monitor , there are lots of red flip switches on left of dash but none have camera on it.



    Sent from my iPad


    On Mar 12, 2013, at 10:07 AM, "Michael" <landtamer@...> wrote:

     

    The toggle button on my dash has a little camera drawing on it between my fuel gauge and radio. Pic attached.  It turns on the 12VDC camera, but not the inverter. Someone replace the inverter with a cheaper version that doesn't have a remote switch.  TV didn't work, so I found a replacement that worked on 12VDC.

    Michael
    '93 Ivory.




    On 3/12/2013 7:55 AM, Marlene Cole wrote:

     

    Thanks Mike, no idea if camera works, didn't know there was a toggle button, will try that after work and go from there. Thanks again.

    Sent from my iPad


    On Mar 12, 2013, at 7:44 AM, "Mike & Linda Kohut" <kohutcorp@...> wrote:

     

    Hi Marlene and welcome. 

     

    The inverter would have to be turned on if the backup system is using your main TV as the monitor. 

     

    On my coach, a 2000 Sahara, the B/W back up camera is 12 volt and does not need the inverter.  It is cabled with coax into the back of the main TV which is 110 volt and does need the inverter.  There is a switch for the backup camera, that also turns on the inverter, on the left side switch cluster.  The TV needs to be turned on manually and set to receive the input from the camera feed. 

     

    If everything is set properly and it still does not work, you will have to start to check individual components.  Does the TV or monitor turn on and work?  Is there power to the camera?  Can you get a signal through the cable using another camera, such as a handicam?  If you can get a signal from another camera, your camera is bad and would need to be replaced.  I am in the process of replacing my old camera now.  It was losing contrast after it was on for a while.  I bought a replacement camera from RVCams.com.  They are very familiar with the Safari coaches and have a Safari kit replacement camera, with shipping for $151.50. I have not received it yet, so I cannot say how well it works.    

     

    Good luck,

     

    Mike    

     

    From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of marlc592
    Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 10:46 PM
    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti

     

     

    Hi, just joining this group, hoping for some help. See lots of questions answered here and hoping to get some too! First I have seen posts about the backup camera having to have inverter switch turned on, is that true for ours, we have never been able to figure out how to make it work, we have had it for two years. Good thing my husband backs up well.



    -- 
    Michael
    1993 Ivory Hi-Tech
    49K miles
    8.3 Cummins

    Group: Safarifriends Message: 20523 From: Marlene Cole Date: 3/12/2013
    Subject: Re: 1990 safari Serengeti
    Monitor turns on, everything is factory,no labels on 2 switches below l armrest ,

    Sent from my iPad

    On Mar 12, 2013, at 6:24 PM, "Mike & Linda Kohut" <kohutcorp@...> wrote:

     

    Is your camera and monitor factory installed or an aftermarket add on?  Can you get the monitor to turn on?  Are any of your switches labeled? 

     

     

    From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marlene Cole
    Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 12:35 PM
    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Cc: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti

     

     

    My camera has a monitor , there are lots of red flip switches on left of dash but none have camera on it.



    Sent from my iPad


    On Mar 12, 2013, at 10:07 AM, "Michael" <landtamer@...> wrote:

     

    The toggle button on my dash has a little camera drawing on it between my fuel gauge and radio. Pic attached.  It turns on the 12VDC camera, but not the inverter. Someone replace the inverter with a cheaper version that doesn't have a remote switch.  TV didn't work, so I found a replacement that worked on 12VDC.

    Michael
    '93 Ivory.




    On 3/12/2013 7:55 AM, Marlene Cole wrote:

     

    Thanks Mike, no idea if camera works, didn't know there was a toggle button, will try that after work and go from there. Thanks again.

    Sent from my iPad


    On Mar 12, 2013, at 7:44 AM, "Mike & Linda Kohut" <kohutcorp@...> wrote:

     

    Hi Marlene and welcome. 

     

    The inverter would have to be turned on if the backup system is using your main TV as the monitor. 

     

    On my coach, a 2000 Sahara, the B/W back up camera is 12 volt and does not need the inverter.  It is cabled with coax into the back of the main TV which is 110 volt and does need the inverter.  There is a switch for the backup camera, that also turns on the inverter, on the left side switch cluster.  The TV needs to be turned on manually and set to receive the input from the camera feed. 

     

    If everything is set properly and it still does not work, you will have to start to check individual components.  Does the TV or monitor turn on and work?  Is there power to the camera?  Can you get a signal through the cable using another camera, such as a handicam?  If you can get a signal from another camera, your camera is bad and would need to be replaced.  I am in the process of replacing my old camera now.  It was losing contrast after it was on for a while.  I bought a replacement camera from RVCams.com.  They are very familiar with the Safari coaches and have a Safari kit replacement camera, with shipping for $151.50. I have not received it yet, so I cannot say how well it works.    

     

    Good luck,

     

    Mike    

     

    From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of marlc592
    Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 10:46 PM
    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti

     

     

    Hi, just joining this group, hoping for some help. See lots of questions answered here and hoping to get some too! First I have seen posts about the backup camera having to have inverter switch turned on, is that true for ours, we have never been able to figure out how to make it work, we have had it for two years. Good thing my husband backs up well.



    -- 
    Michael
    1993 Ivory Hi-Tech
    49K miles
    8.3 Cummins

    Group: Safarifriends Message: 20524 From: Mike & Linda Kohut Date: 3/13/2013
    Subject: Re: 1990 safari Serengeti

    Once you get the coax connected back onto the camera and determine which of those switches provides the 12 volt power to the camera your back up system should work.  That is if all the components are working.    

     

    From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marlene Cole
    Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 8:15 PM
    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti

     

     

    Monitor turns on, everything is factory,no labels on 2 switches below l armrest ,

    Sent from my iPad


    On Mar 12, 2013, at 6:24 PM, "Mike & Linda Kohut" <kohutcorp@...> wrote:

     

    Is your camera and monitor factory installed or an aftermarket add on?  Can you get the monitor to turn on?  Are any of your switches labeled? 

     

     

    From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Marlene Cole
    Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2013 12:35 PM
    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Cc: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti

     

     

    My camera has a monitor , there are lots of red flip switches on left of dash but none have camera on it.



    Sent from my iPad


    On Mar 12, 2013, at 10:07 AM, "Michael" <landtamer@...> wrote:

     

    The toggle button on my dash has a little camera drawing on it between my fuel gauge and radio. Pic attached.  It turns on the 12VDC camera, but not the inverter. Someone replace the inverter with a cheaper version that doesn't have a remote switch.  TV didn't work, so I found a replacement that worked on 12VDC.

    Michael
    '93 Ivory.





    On 3/12/2013 7:55 AM, Marlene Cole wrote:

     

    Thanks Mike, no idea if camera works, didn't know there was a toggle button, will try that after work and go from there. Thanks again.

    Sent from my iPad


    On Mar 12, 2013, at 7:44 AM, "Mike & Linda Kohut" <kohutcorp@...> wrote:

     

    Hi Marlene and welcome. 

     

    The inverter would have to be turned on if the backup system is using your main TV as the monitor. 

     

    On my coach, a 2000 Sahara, the B/W back up camera is 12 volt and does not need the inverter.  It is cabled with coax into the back of the main TV which is 110 volt and does need the inverter.  There is a switch for the backup camera, that also turns on the inverter, on the left side switch cluster.  The TV needs to be turned on manually and set to receive the input from the camera feed. 

     

    If everything is set properly and it still does not work, you will have to start to check individual components.  Does the TV or monitor turn on and work?  Is there power to the camera?  Can you get a signal through the cable using another camera, such as a handicam?  If you can get a signal from another camera, your camera is bad and would need to be replaced.  I am in the process of replacing my old camera now.  It was losing contrast after it was on for a while.  I bought a replacement camera from RVCams.com.  They are very familiar with the Safari coaches and have a Safari kit replacement camera, with shipping for $151.50. I have not received it yet, so I cannot say how well it works.    

     

    Good luck,

     

    Mike    

     

    From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of marlc592
    Sent: Monday, March 11, 2013 10:46 PM
    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [Safarifriends] 1990 safari Serengeti

     

     

    Hi, just joining this group, hoping for some help. See lots of questions answered here and hoping to get some too! First I have seen posts about the backup camera having to have inverter switch turned on, is that true for ours, we have never been able to figure out how to make it work, we have had it for two years. Good thing my husband backs up well.




    -- 
    Michael
    1993 Ivory Hi-Tech
    49K miles
    8.3 Cummins

    Group: Safarifriends Message: 21915 From: wolfe102001 Date: 6/20/2013
    Subject: Re: Replacing front television and backup camera/monitor?
    Joe,

    I did the second part of your project first on our 1997 Sahara 35'.

    Pulled a coaxial from overhead TV area coming from rear camera and installed the monitor in the dash just above the HVAC controls and to the right of fuel gauge and volt meter and to the left of where the CB hangs.

    Got these from rv.cams: New color back up camera CH with reverse image, and replaced lexan with ¼" glass. New color monitor Voyager AOM713.

    Ran out of time to get a new TV installed-- had to leave for Diesel RV Club rally, Gillette FMCA Convention and Safari International Rally next week.

    Brett

    --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, Dio <diomar@...> wrote:
    >
    > After an ah-ha moment last year I've opted to remove the overhead CRT
    > and replace it with something a bit lighter and better fastened. I'm
    > also replacing a somewhat intermittent backup-camera system.
    >
    > Any recommendations you can make for VESA mounts to secure a flat-screen
    > as well as comments/opinions for backup-cameras and their associated
    > monitors would be greatly appreciated.
    >
    > Last year I hit a dip in the road which caused the overhead 19" CRT to
    > pull-out of its mooring. It missed me as well as my 10yo belted to the
    > couch behind me.
    >
    > We're in the final stages of packing-up the stick-house and getting the
    > coach ready for our westward journey.
    >
    > @Karen I can relate to your sadness. Yesterday I placed my mother into a
    > memory care facility while we're in the process of moving. I've been
    > caring for her for the last ~5 years, and it's extreme sadness to sit at
    > the table and not see her sitting across from me. I cannot bring myself
    > to not setting a place for her at our table.
    >
    > Tnx
    > --joe
    > '95 Sahara/Cummins 35'
    >
    Group: Safarifriends Message: 22881 From: graybeard4765 Date: 8/28/2013
    Subject: Re: 96 safari Continental tank capacitys
    Well, thats a start, ant ideas for the other tanks?
    My problem is that my fuel gauge doesn't read anything above 1/4 tank and when I fueled up the other day it took 74 gal so it would be nice to know how big the tank is.

    so again, thanks

    graybeard

    --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, Dale Maggio <dalemaggio@...> wrote:
    >
    > On my 99, the tank was made by Transferflo and is labeled as 88gal. Crawling under the front of the coach, it is up above center of the front axel. The label is in the lower right hand corner of the tank and easy to read.
    >
    > -=Dale=-
    >
    > --------------------------------------------
    > On Tue, 8/27/13, graybeard4765 <graybeard4765@...> wrote:
    >
    > Subject: [Safarifriends] 96 safari Continental tank capacitys
    > To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    > Date: Tuesday, August 27, 2013, 7:06 PM
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >  
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > I'm having no luck finding numbers for the
    > capacity of:
    >
    >
    >
    > the fuel tank "oh, it's about 75 to a hundered
    > gal." yeah, right!
    >
    >
    >
    > the black tank
    >
    >
    >
    > the gray tank
    >
    >
    >
    > I can't even find numbers that agree for the fresh water
    > tank.
    >
    >
    >
    > is there anyone that can help? I mean "it's between
    > 35 & 60 gal." just doesn't help.
    >
    >
    >
    > I could really use some help.
    >
    >
    >
    > thanks!
    >
    >
    >
    > the old guy
    >
    Group: Safarifriends Message: 23244 From: patsroamin Date: 9/26/2013
    Subject: Re: 96 safari Continental tank capacitys

    Our 93 Safari Continental has 100 gal tanks across the board.  Fuel, black, gray, and fresh are all 100 gallons.  Not sure if they are the same in the 96' 



    ---In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, <safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

    Well, thats a start, ant ideas for the other tanks?
    My problem is that my fuel gauge doesn't read anything above 1/4 tank and when I fueled up the other day it took 74 gal so it would be nice to know how big the tank is.

    so again, thanks

    graybeard

    --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, Dale Maggio <dalemaggio@...> wrote:
    >
    > On my 99, the tank was made by Transferflo and is labeled as 88gal. Crawling under the front of the coach, it is up above center of the front axel. The label is in the lower right hand corner of the tank and easy to read.
    >
    > -=Dale=-
    >
    > --------------------------------------------
    > On Tue, 8/27/13, graybeard4765 <graybeard4765@...> wrote:
    >
    > Subject: [Safarifriends] 96 safari Continental tank capacitys
    > To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    > Date: Tuesday, August 27, 2013, 7:06 PM
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >  
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > I'm having no luck finding numbers for the
    > capacity of:
    >
    >
    >
    > the fuel tank "oh, it's about 75 to a hundered
    > gal." yeah, right!
    >
    >
    >
    > the black tank
    >
    >
    >
    > the gray tank
    >
    >
    >
    > I can't even find numbers that agree for the fresh water
    > tank.
    >
    >
    >
    > is there anyone that can help? I mean "it's between
    > 35 & 60 gal." just doesn't help.
    >
    >
    >
    > I could really use some help.
    >
    >
    >
    > thanks!
    >
    >
    >
    > the old guy
    >
    Group: Safarifriends Message: 23247 From: DOUGLAS BRANCH Date: 9/26/2013
    Subject: Re: 96 safari Continental tank capacitys
    I may be out of line here but I don't believe that any coach from that decade came with a 100 black and grey.  With a 100 fuel and 100 water.  U could change the weight. 3200 fluid pounds.   Safety has to be an issue not to mention space underneath the vehicle.  If i am wrong I apologize and say WOW. 

    Sent from my iPhone4 Doug


    On Sep 26, 2013, at 11:01 AM, <patsroamin@...> wrote:

     

    Our 93 Safari Continental has 100 gal tanks across the board.  Fuel, black, gray, and fresh are all 100 gallons.  Not sure if they are the same in the 96' 



    ---In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, <safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

    Well, thats a start, ant ideas for the other tanks?
    My problem is that my fuel gauge doesn't read anything above 1/4 tank and when I fueled up the other day it took 74 gal so it would be nice to know how big the tank is.

    so again, thanks

    graybeard

    --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, Dale Maggio <dalemaggio@...> wrote:
    >
    > On my 99, the tank was made by Transferflo and is labeled as 88gal. Crawling under the front of the coach, it is up above center of the front axel. The label is in the lower right hand corner of the tank and easy to read.
    >
    > -=Dale=-
    >
    > --------------------------------------------
    > On Tue, 8/27/13, graybeard4765 <graybeard4765@...> wrote:
    >
    > Subject: [Safarifriends] 96 safari Continental tank capacitys
    > To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    > Date: Tuesday, August 27, 2013, 7:06 PM
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >  
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > I'm having no luck finding numbers for the
    > capacity of:
    >
    >
    >
    > the fuel tank "oh, it's about 75 to a hundered
    > gal." yeah, right!
    >
    >
    >
    > the black tank
    >
    >
    >
    > the gray tank
    >
    >
    >
    > I can't even find numbers that agree for the fresh water
    > tank.
    >
    >
    >
    > is there anyone that can help? I mean "it's between
    > 35 & 60 gal." just doesn't help.
    >
    >
    >
    > I could really use some help.
    >
    >
    >
    > thanks!
    >
    >
    >
    > the old guy
    >

    Group: Safarifriends Message: 23248 From: stuplich@ymail.com Date: 9/26/2013
    Subject: Re: 96 safari Continental tank capacitys

    Douglas


    The tanks on the 35', '96 Sahara are:

    !00 gal. fresh water

    50 gal. gray

    50 gal. black

    90 gal. fuel

    35 gal. LPG, (@ 80% it holds 28 gal.)


    On the 37' '96 Serengeti they are:

    100 gal. fresh water

    50 gal. gray

    50 gal. black

    100, (or 102?) gal. diesel fuel

    50 gal LPG, (@ 80% it holds 40 gal.)


    I don't have the specs/capacities for other years/models.

    Sorry.

    Mel

    '96 Sahara 3530



    ---In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, <safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

    I may be out of line here but I don't believe that any coach from that decade came with a 100 black and grey.  With a 100 fuel and 100 water.  U could change the weight. 3200 fluid pounds.   Safety has to be an issue not to mention space underneath the vehicle.  If i am wrong I apologize and say WOW. 

    Sent from my iPhone4 Doug


    On Sep 26, 2013, at 11:01 AM, <patsroamin@...> wrote:

     

    Our 93 Safari Continental has 100 gal tanks across the board.  Fuel, black, gray, and fresh are all 100 gallons.  Not sure if they are the same in the 96' 



    ---In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, <safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

    Well, thats a start, ant ideas for the other tanks?
    My problem is that my fuel gauge doesn't read anything above 1/4 tank and when I fueled up the other day it took 74 gal so it would be nice to know how big the tank is.

    so again, thanks

    graybeard

    --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, Dale Maggio <dalemaggio@...> wrote:
    >
    > On my 99, the tank was made by Transferflo and is labeled as 88gal. Crawling under the front of the coach, it is up above center of the front axel. The label is in the lower right hand corner of the tank and easy to read.
    >
    > -=Dale=-
    >
    > --------------------------------------------
    > On Tue, 8/27/13, graybeard4765 <graybeard4765@...> wrote:
    >
    > Subject: [Safarifriends] 96 safari Continental tank capacitys
    > To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    > Date: Tuesday, August 27, 2013, 7:06 PM
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >  
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > I'm having no luck finding numbers for the
    > capacity of:
    >
    >
    >
    > the fuel tank "oh, it's about 75 to a hundered
    > gal." yeah, right!
    >
    >
    >
    > the black tank
    >
    >
    >
    > the gray tank
    >
    >
    >
    > I can't even find numbers that agree for the fresh water
    > tank.
    >
    >
    >
    > is there anyone that can help? I mean "it's between
    > 35 & 60 gal." just doesn't help.
    >
    >
    >
    > I could really use some help.
    >
    >
    >
    > thanks!
    >
    >
    >
    > the old guy
    >
    Group: Safarifriends Message: 23250 From: Herb Date: 9/26/2013
    Subject: Re: 96 safari Continental tank capacitys
    On my 1997 40 ft. all same specs as 37' except 110 gal. Fuel.


    Sent from my iPad

    On Sep 26, 2013, at 2:23 PM, <stuplich@...> wrote:

     

    Douglas


    The tanks on the 35', '96 Sahara are:

    !00 gal. fresh water

    50 gal. gray

    50 gal. black

    90 gal. fuel

    35 gal. LPG, (@ 80% it holds 28 gal.)


    On the 37' '96 Serengeti they are:

    100 gal. fresh water

    50 gal. gray

    50 gal. black

    100, (or 102?) gal. diesel fuel

    50 gal LPG, (@ 80% it holds 40 gal.)


    I don't have the specs/capacities for other years/models.

    Sorry.

    Mel

    '96 Sahara 3530



    ---In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, <safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

    I may be out of line here but I don't believe that any coach from that decade came with a 100 black and grey.  With a 100 fuel and 100 water.  U could change the weight. 3200 fluid pounds.   Safety has to be an issue not to mention space underneath the vehicle.  If i am wrong I apologize and say WOW. 

    Sent from my iPhone4 Doug


    On Sep 26, 2013, at 11:01 AM, <patsroamin@...> wrote:

     

    Our 93 Safari Continental has 100 gal tanks across the board.  Fuel, black, gray, and fresh are all 100 gallons.  Not sure if they are the same in the 96' 



    ---In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, <safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

    Well, thats a start, ant ideas for the other tanks?
    My problem is that my fuel gauge doesn't read anything above 1/4 tank and when I fueled up the other day it took 74 gal so it would be nice to know how big the tank is.

    so again, thanks

    graybeard

    --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, Dale Maggio <dalemaggio@...> wrote:
    >
    > On my 99, the tank was made by Transferflo and is labeled as 88gal. Crawling under the front of the coach, it is up above center of the front axel. The label is in the lower right hand corner of the tank and easy to read.
    >
    > -=Dale=-
    >
    > --------------------------------------------
    > On Tue, 8/27/13, graybeard4765 <graybeard4765@...> wrote:
    >
    > Subject: [Safarifriends] 96 safari Continental tank capacitys
    > To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    > Date: Tuesday, August 27, 2013, 7:06 PM
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >  
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > I'm having no luck finding numbers for the
    > capacity of:
    >
    >
    >
    > the fuel tank "oh, it's about 75 to a hundered
    > gal." yeah, right!
    >
    >
    >
    > the black tank
    >
    >
    >
    > the gray tank
    >
    >
    >
    > I can't even find numbers that agree for the fresh water
    > tank.
    >
    >
    >
    > is there anyone that can help? I mean "it's between
    > 35 & 60 gal." just doesn't help.
    >
    >
    >
    > I could really use some help.
    >
    >
    >
    > thanks!
    >
    >
    >
    > the old guy
    >

    Group: Safarifriends Message: 25167 From: George Marsh Date: 5/21/2014
    Subject: Re: 1995 Safari Serengeti - Windshield Wiper washer fluid hose
    Can any one tell how to fix fuel gauge is not working on my 1995 Safari Serengeti please help thanks George 
    On Tuesday, May 20, 2014 3:20 PM, "Craig Prokop craigprokop@... [Safarifriends]" <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


     
    Automotive vacuum hose is rubber and should work fine in this application. We also have a 95 Serengeti with the 8.3 Cummins.
    On May 20, 2014 3:06 PM, "buckeyewoody46@... [Safarifriends]" <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
     
     
    My windshield wiper washer hose is missing on the passenger side and not working on the driver side. I want to replace it. I went to Advanced Auto parts and bought a 36” inch hose that appears to be plastic. I tried this with soap on the end but it would not expand over the washer fluid fitting. My old hose was rubber; does anyone know where I could find this rubber washer hose and maybe that part number also?
    Thanks in advance, Dave and Judy
     


    Group: Safarifriends Message: 25168 From: George Marsh Date: 5/21/2014
    Subject: fuel gauge
    Need some help with fuel gauge not working checked fuse it is fine need to know where sensor is because it don't seem to be the gauge this 1995 Safari Serengeti diesel pusher 8.3 thanks George       
    Group: Safarifriends Message: 25172 From: Ronnie Date: 5/21/2014
    Subject: Re: fuel gauge

    The sending unit is in the fuel tank. Not familiar with your tank but most of them are inserted through the top of the tank. Check the wire connections and the ground before pulling the sensor.

    Ron

    98 Serengeti

     

    From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com]
    Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 1:20 PM
    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [Safarifriends] fuel gauge

     

     

    Need some help with fuel gauge not working checked fuse it is fine need to know where sensor is because it don't seem to be the gauge this 1995 Safari Serengeti diesel pusher 8.3 thanks George       

    Group: Safarifriends Message: 25177 From: George Marsh Date: 5/22/2014
    Subject: Re: fuel gauge
    Need to know how to get to the top of the tank without tank removable would be nice if you can help thanks George 
    On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 8:26 PM, "Ronnie beech50@... [Safarifriends]" <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


     
    The sending unit is in the fuel tank. Not familiar with your tank but most of them are inserted through the top of the tank. Check the wire connections and the ground before pulling the sensor.
    Ron
    98 Serengeti
     
    From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com]
    Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 1:20 PM
    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [Safarifriends] fuel gauge
     
     
    Need some help with fuel gauge not working checked fuse it is fine need to know where sensor is because it don't seem to be the gauge this 1995 Safari Serengeti diesel pusher 8.3 thanks George       


    Group: Safarifriends Message: 25180 From: DOUGLAS BRANCH Date: 5/22/2014
    Subject: Re: fuel gauge
    Only way is thru floor.  Or remove tank. 

    Sent from my iPhone4 Doug


    On May 22, 2014, at 5:22 PM, "George Marsh marshgeorge19@... [Safarifriends]" <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

     

    Need to know how to get to the top of the tank without tank removable would be nice if you can help thanks George 
    On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 8:26 PM, "Ronnie beech50@... [Safarifriends]" <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


     
    The sending unit is in the fuel tank. Not familiar with your tank but most of them are inserted through the top of the tank. Check the wire connections and the ground before pulling the sensor.
    Ron
    98 Serengeti
     
    From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com]
    Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 1:20 PM
    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [Safarifriends] fuel gauge
     
     
    Need some help with fuel gauge not working checked fuse it is fine need to know where sensor is because it don't seem to be the gauge this 1995 Safari Serengeti diesel pusher 8.3 thanks George       


    Group: Safarifriends Message: 25181 From: George Marsh Date: 5/23/2014
    Subject: Re: fuel gauge
    I thought that mite be case have to pull carpet back and hope there Is door there thanks for response George


    On Thursday, May 22, 2014 7:22 PM, "DOUGLAS BRANCH deckiedoo@... [Safarifriends]" <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


     
    Only way is thru floor.  Or remove tank. 

    Sent from my iPhone4 Doug


    On May 22, 2014, at 5:22 PM, "George Marsh marshgeorge19@... [Safarifriends]" <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

     
    Need to know how to get to the top of the tank without tank removable would be nice if you can help thanks George 
    On Wednesday, May 21, 2014 8:26 PM, "Ronnie beech50@... [Safarifriends]" <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


     
    The sending unit is in the fuel tank. Not familiar with your tank but most of them are inserted through the top of the tank. Check the wire connections and the ground before pulling the sensor.
    Ron
    98 Serengeti
     
    From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com]
    Sent: Wednesday, May 21, 2014 1:20 PM
    To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
    Subject: [Safarifriends] fuel gauge
     
     
    Need some help with fuel gauge not working checked fuse it is fine need to know where sensor is because it don't seem to be the gauge this 1995 Safari Serengeti diesel pusher 8.3 thanks George