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Group: Safarifriends Message: 16068 From: FBrouss211@aol.com Date: 2/20/2012
Subject: Re: Serengetti 3726
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16083 From: Mr. G. Date: 2/21/2012
Subject: Re: Potential Buyer
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16093 From: andrewsralph42 Date: 2/22/2012
Subject: Re: Adding Airbags to Supplement The Velvet ride
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16388 From: John Date: 3/18/2012
Subject: Re: Velvet Ride - revisited
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16390 From: FBrouss211@aol.com Date: 3/18/2012
Subject: Re: Velvet Ride - revisited
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16497 From: dddugger9@q.com Date: 3/30/2012
Subject: Weak Shocks:
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16498 From: John Ruff Date: 3/30/2012
Subject: Re: Weak Shocks:
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16503 From: Iona Ruth Hoeppner Date: 3/31/2012
Subject: Re: Weak Shocks:
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16504 From: andrewsralph42 Date: 3/31/2012
Subject: Re: Weak Shocks:
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16505 From: fountking Date: 3/31/2012
Subject: Re: Weak Shocks:
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16506 From: fountking Date: 3/31/2012
Subject: Re: Weak Shocks:
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16507 From: ART Date: 3/31/2012
Subject: Re: Weak Shocks:
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16508 From: byrdmona Date: 3/31/2012
Subject: Re: Weak Shocks:
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16509 From: dddugger9@q.com Date: 3/31/2012
Subject: Re: Weak Shocks:
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16514 From: Ricardo Date: 4/1/2012
Subject: Shocks
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16521 From: TERRY SELVIDGE Date: 4/1/2012
Subject: Carefree awning spring
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16529 From: Dick Missett Date: 4/1/2012
Subject: Re: Carefree awning spring
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16531 From: TERRY SELVIDGE Date: 4/1/2012
Subject: Re: Carefree awning spring
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16532 From: John Ruff Date: 4/1/2012
Subject: Re: Shocks
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16535 From: rpalominod90@yahoo.com Date: 4/2/2012
Subject: Re: Shocks
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16536 From: fountking Date: 4/2/2012
Subject: Re: Shocks
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16537 From: rpalominod90@yahoo.com Date: 4/2/2012
Subject: Re: Shocks
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16540 From: TheMopedWhiz Date: 4/2/2012
Subject: Re: Weak Shocks:
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16541 From: andrewsralph42 Date: 4/2/2012
Subject: Re: Weak Shocks:
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16543 From: John Clevenger Date: 4/2/2012
Subject: Re: steering stabilizer
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16544 From: TheMopedWhiz Date: 4/2/2012
Subject: Re: Weak Shocks:
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16545 From: John Clevenger Date: 4/3/2012
Subject: Re: Weak Shocks:
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16556 From: stuplich@ymail.com Date: 4/5/2012
Subject: Life of Shocks?
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16557 From: stuplich@ymail.com Date: 4/5/2012
Subject: Re: Carefree awning spring
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16558 From: Dan Date: 4/5/2012
Subject: Re: steering stabilizer
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16559 From: TERRY SELVIDGE Date: 4/5/2012
Subject: Re: Carefree awning spring
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16560 From: eggmanmay@aol.com Date: 4/5/2012
Subject: Re: steering stabilizer
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16569 From: John Ruff Date: 4/6/2012
Subject: Re: Life of Shocks?
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16574 From: fountking Date: 4/7/2012
Subject: If you are thinking Koni's
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16589 From: TheMopedWhiz Date: 4/7/2012
Subject: Re: If you are thinking Koni's
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16591 From: rpalominod90@yahoo.com Date: 4/8/2012
Subject: Re: If you are thinking Koni's
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16594 From: TheMopedWhiz Date: 4/8/2012
Subject: Re: If you are thinking Koni's
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16595 From: rpalominod90@yahoo.com Date: 4/9/2012
Subject: Re: If you are thinking Koni's
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16599 From: TheMopedWhiz Date: 4/9/2012
Subject: Re: If you are thinking Koni's
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16612 From: TheMopedWhiz Date: 4/12/2012
Subject: Re: If you are thinking Koni's
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16620 From: TheMopedWhiz Date: 4/17/2012
Subject: Re: If you are thinking Koni's
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16640 From: jquade_fwb Date: 4/22/2012
Subject: Re: steering drag link
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16641 From: byrdmona Date: 4/22/2012
Subject: Re: steering drag link
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16661 From: Gary Date: 4/24/2012
Subject: Re: New to class A diesel MH
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16663 From: TheMopedWhiz Date: 4/24/2012
Subject: Re: If you are thinking Koni's
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16666 From: rpalominod90@yahoo.com Date: 4/25/2012
Subject: Re: If you are thinking Koni's
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16667 From: the elder Date: 4/25/2012
Subject: Re: If you are thinking Koni's
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16668 From: the elder Date: 4/25/2012
Subject: Re: If you are thinking Koni's
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16669 From: the elder Date: 4/25/2012
Subject: Re: If you are thinking Koni's
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16670 From: John Clevenger Date: 4/25/2012
Subject: Re: If you are thinking Koni's



Group: Safarifriends Message: 16068 From: FBrouss211@aol.com Date: 2/20/2012
Subject: Re: Serengetti 3726
Our 1999 has original air bags after 113,000 miles and I'm thinking about. changing them as a preventive maintenance measure. No major cracking is visible. Shocks also original and will be changed even no leaking is evident.
Make sure you have the braking system carefully checked if it's been setting..especially for corrosion on electrical connections in the battery compartment. 


Sent from my iPhone

On Feb 20, 2012, at 6:05 PM, "svenbeck@..." <svensd@...> wrote:

 

Forgot to ask about SE Gi "snakey" windows - where they used in all dual windows for all the older rigs?

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "svenbeck@..." <svensd@...> wrote:
>
> I talked to the owner of the Serengetti and she said that it has air bags - she recently replaced three of them, which concerns me. It is a '99 and has 28,000 miles (!), but not thinking the low miles is a good thing - RV's like to be driven. If the bags developed cracks from being deflated while in long storage I might have to replace the others, not to mention seals, etc. that might be an issue. I would be interested in hearing about your experiences with air bags and thoughts regarding 13 year old rig with very low mileage (tires were replace 3 years ago). The rig looks like new from the photos.
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "pschafersr" <pschafersr@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Not sure what size the tubes are, I will check when I go back out later.
> > I do know the front tubes are a different size than the rear tubes. When
> > we ordered the parts, we gave them the gawr of both axles, and they are
> > sized accordingly. When I post the pix you will see the differences.
> >
> > I can give an update, however on the progress. They have finished the
> > front, and the first impression is that the front end is still up on
> > jacks (but it's not)! The difference in height between the front and
> > rear, measured at the trim, vertically centered at the wheel, is 4". I
> > can't wait until they get the rear done!
> >
> > More tomorrow...
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "chuck.lewis72" <cdl45309@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > What size tube's are they using on your coach?
> > > I forget what size the newer coach's have, but I think they're smaller
> > than the older ones
> > > 3 1/2" square?????
> > > 1997 Serengeti
> > > Ohio
> > >
> > > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "pschafersr" pschafersr@ wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi All, haven't posted for some time (long time I guess) but it just
> > so happens I can give EVERYONE with a BF Goodrich Torsilastic Suspension
> > (Velvet Ride) some good news...
> > > >
> > > > My 01 Safari Zanzibar is in the shop as we speak (Redlands Truck &
> > RV, Redlands, CA) having the suspension replaced, with new torque tubes
> > and related parts. My ride height could no longer be adjusted. We live
> > in the coach, travel about 10,000 miles a year, and have been struggling
> > with the suspension issue for a few years now. Everyone else I talked to
> > at convensions and rallies gave their condolences or told me I was
> > screwed when I mentioned BF Goodrich suspension issues. However, the
> > parts are available and there are people who know what they are doing
> > with them.
> > > >
> > > > It is expensive. The parts alone are about $3,000 per axle, and the
> > job is very labor intensive. I am taking pictures of the project and
> > will try to post them next week.
> > > >
> > > > We are excited to ride down the road in the coach the way it was
> > meant to be! More later...
> > > >
> > > > Phil
> > > >
> > > > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "jimlyndabrooks"
> > <jimlyndabrooks@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Sven, The shims are just that shims. What wears is the rubber part
> > of the suspension. You remove shims to raise the coach. Measure height,
> > if low you remove shims. When you are too low and out of shims you are
> > out of luck. You must have correct ride height for correct driveline
> > angle.
> > > > >
> > > > > If you are going to get a different Safari, get one with the 8 air
> > bag suspension. Forget the Velvet Ride ones.
> > > > >
> > > > > Jim
> > > > > '96 Sahara
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "svenbeck@" <svensd@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I appreciate the comments. As for the Freightliner or Spartan
> > chassis, I am not considering any brand other than Safari. The main
> > reason is the aluminum sides and paint. I've had a fiberglass coach with
> > decals, and won't do that again. As it is, the fiberglass front cap of
> > my Sahara is taking a beating from the southern California sun.
> > > > > > I'm not really familiar with the Velvet ride shims - are they
> > wearing out? The coach I am considering has 29,000 miles; I realize that
> > low mileage is not necessarily a good thing on these coaches, but
> > probably good for the suspension. I can also expect to replace all the
> > tires.
> > > > > > Still not sure about the extra 4' more than my 33'.
> > > > > > Sven
> > > > > >
> > > > > > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "chuck.lewis72"
> > <cdl45309@> wrote:
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > Check the ride height, should be 42" to the band above the
> > basement doors. Also check & see if the coach sets level. There are 10
> > shims per stack....so a total of 80 shims on the front & rear.
> > > > > > > I put quad Konie shocks on the front, that helped alot, or I
> > should say Ralph did....LOL. His stuff is pretty good too. Call him,
> > he'll tell you more that you can digest.
> > > > > > > Whats the mileage on the coach? Mine is over 115K, I've only
> > removed a few shims in the front, to level it out.
> > > > > > > 1997 Serengeti
> > > > > > > Ohio
> > > > > > >
> > > > > > > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "jquade_fwb" <jquade44@>
> > wrote:
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > Velvet Ride Suspension Parts Update. Last year when I was at
> > Brazel's north of Centralia Wa., (I-5 Exit 88) I asked them about the
> > suspension parts availability & expertise. I was told they bought all of
> > Ralph's parts and were very experienced in working with them.
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "Andy Haiduck"
> > <andrew.haiduck@> wrote:
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Sven - I own a 98 Serengeti with Velvet Ride that I've had
> > for 4 years now. We love the coach, but if I had it to do over again I'd
> > stay away from Velvet Ride. My ride height adjustments are maxed out.
> > Any further height adjustments will require either adding air bags or
> > replacing the torsilastic components (if they can be found) - both
> > pretty expensive options. Other than salvage yards, the only source of
> > suspension parts is Ralph Andrews (509-750-0248), who bought up all the
> > Velvet Ride parts from Monaco. The last time I talked to him he was in
> > the process of replacing his Magnum chassis with an Alpine chassis that
> > he found in a salvage yard (I think he really likes to tinker!).
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > If I was in the market for another coach right now, I'd be
> > looking for something on a Freightliner or Spartan chassis - nothing
> > manufacturer specific.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Just my two cents.
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > Andy Haiduck
> > > > > > > > > 98 Serengeti 4006
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "svenbeck@" <svensd@>
> > wrote: I believe the Serengetti has the Velvet Ride being standard. They
> > didn't indicate in the ad, but would probably mention air bags if that
> > were the case.
> > > > > > > > > 7-10 doesn't sound bad.
> > > > > > > > > Sven
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "chuck.lewis72"
> > <cdl45309@> wrote: What suspension is on the 1999 Serengeti?
> > > > > > > > > My milage ranges from 7-10 mpg
> > > > > > > > > 1997 Serengeti
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "svenbeck@" <svensd@>
> > wrote: With retirement bearing down on me, we are considering "moving
> > up" to a 1999 Serengetti 3726 from a '96 Sahara. The advantages would be
> > the slide, an improved ride (we are on springs) and a longer couch for
> > when I get myself in trouble. I've asked about slides previously and
> > found that a number of you were pretty happy with them. Has anyone
> > regreted moving to a larger rig with regard to manueverability, parking,
> > etc. and what was is the observed fuel consumption of these rigs?
> > > > > > > > > Thank you again for your views.
> > > > > > > > > Sven
> > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > >
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Group: Safarifriends Message: 16083 From: Mr. G. Date: 2/21/2012
Subject: Re: Potential Buyer
Adding weight to the front of a 30' made a world of difference on mine, as did the addition of the TRACK bars and the quad shocks. I added the front push bar and storage box after coming way to close to losing the front end because of anothers mistake. Although they didn't back into me I realized just how vulnerable I was if that were to happen. Having the storage helps and I get some extra weight out front as well. Mine rides like a charm.    But if you really feel it is to difficult to drive check this out.   Take a piece of stiff rope or twine and use it to establish the length from the center of the front wheel to the center of the rear wheel. Now do the same on the opposite side. Make sure they are equivalent.  When I took delivery of mine on a Saturday afternoon 2000 miles from home I felt as if I had made a terrible mistake. Turned out my rear axle had slipped and it was dog taileing down the road. SMC sent two techs to my home and made the repairs to correctly align the axel. End of problem.  RG  Moderator
 

To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
From: rodbranch@...
Date: Tue, 21 Feb 2012 22:29:04 -0600
Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] Re: Potential Buyer



Many  Thanks to those replying.  I had thought about a front mounted storage box,  The idea weghts or I beam are good too.  I am keeping it, so I'll live with it.  Rod

On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 6:02 PM, Rod Branch <rodbranch@...> wrote:
Terry,  Let change the direction of this thread a little.  I also have a 96 30' Sahara which I am finding hard to keep in a straight line down the road.  Love everything else about it.  Been reading about the guys reworking the supension, 4 wheel alignment, etc.  One comment was that the 30 &33 footers had too short a wheelbase to handle the diesel rear pusher. Any thoughts?  Thanks, Rod


On Tue, Feb 21, 2012 at 9:05 AM, TERRY SELVIDGE <selvidge@...> wrote:
 


Ok i can't hold out any longer...We had a 460 ford
serengetto, drove it across the u.s. tightining the 4
belts every 250 miles, the rig isnt a wide body, semis
blow you all over the road, and after 80,000 you can buy a
new engine and then just as your getting on the freeway it
develops a vaper lock and stops running for 30
minutes.JUNK JUNK JUNK, excuse me i must go throw up
thinking of my old rig, Spend a little more and get
DIESEL...T&B 96 sahara 250 cat.. 30 foot that goes in any
campground...........


"jimlyndabrooks" <jimlyndabrooks@...> wrote:
> HI, there is a reason there are no GAS PUSHERS today.
>
> If it has sat for 3 years, is 20 years old, no telling
>how many fluid leaks will develop when you start using
>it. Plus, all the other systems that have been dormant.
>
> All the oil has drained off the metal surfaces.
> Internal rust in the engine, transmission, rear end,
>brake calipers seized, and so on.
>
> IF he had been using it last month, and you could verify
>all systems were operational, might be different.
>
> Personally, there is no way I would do it. The $10K is
>just to buy it. Now you got to get everything working.
>IF you are wanting to buy a hobby, and have a bunch of
>time and extra money, this is probably as good of a money
>pit as you could find.
>
> Jim
> '96 Sahara 3540, 300CAT, 520W Solar
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "John Ruff"
><j_r_ruff@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Would you prefer to make a $10,000 mistake or a $500
>>one. Offer him $500 for a one week rental of the coach.
>> Tell him if it checks out ok then you will buy it.
>>
>> If no go - then hire someone to check out the coach.
>> Either way it will be money well spent.
>>
>
>






Group: Safarifriends Message: 16093 From: andrewsralph42 Date: 2/22/2012
Subject: Re: Adding Airbags to Supplement The Velvet ride
Kaiser Brake and Alignment is a very good shop, I know Dick; Cary and Karen personally. In regard to the Panther rear air bags, I have a copy of the drawings and bill of materials that Monaco used to do this retro fit. I have done one of these in my shop and it worked very well. In regards to adding air bags in addition to the Velvet-Ride on non-Panther coaches, I have developed tested and sold several kits all with good success.

The thing to remember before adding air-bags is it is extremely important to check the condition and adjustment of the existing Velvet-Ride. Have the proper shocks on the coach and verify condition of tires and pressure. Once this criteria is met, then the air-bags are a good addition to the system.

Hope this information helps answer some of the questions regarding the addition of air-bags to the Velvet-Ride.

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, FBrouss211@... wrote:
>
> Mark,
> There is a chassis/front end company in Eugene, Oregon named "Kaiser Brake and Alignment".
> They are the best I've had work on my chassis. They did development and major modification for Safari when they under designed the early Panther Magnum chassis..adding air bags to save Safari's major screw up.
> It's an extremely complex and expensive change you're seeking but well worth the effort.
> They also did some major confidential development work to retrofit air brakes for the problems Safari had with their so called "Aircraft Hydraulic Brakes" on the Magnum Chassis. It's a family owned and operated company.
> Phone and Address for Kaiser Brake and Alignment is:
> (541) 344-5887
> 265 Taylor Street
> Eugene, OR 97402
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Feb 20, 2012, at 11:03 PM, "Mark" <mtdnajordan@...> wrote:
>
> > Hi, I am wanting to add an 8 airbag system to my 1995 Serengeti. I have searched the internet and found that no one is selling a "kit" for the Magnum Chassis. I know that Henderson's in the North West is installing these but, I want to do it myself. I am an Aircraft Mechanic and I prefer to do things myself. Has anyone heard of anyplace that sells the kits or the parts? Mostly what I need is the bottom bracket for the airbag. It has to be clamped onto the 4" beam of the suspension. Any help would be appreciated. Thanks Mark
> >
> >
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16388 From: John Date: 3/18/2012
Subject: Re: Velvet Ride - revisited
OK Guys, I'm confused, I have a 2000 Zanzibar with a 4 bag air system, was this an option? I read about Velvet Ride in coaches before and after mine was born. Just curious. It does ride good, but a little soft at times, new shocks installed 2 years ago, Bilsteins, may try Koni's..

John M
2000 Zanzibar 3886

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "andrewsralph42" <andrewsralph42@...> wrote:
>
> Art
> You got the wright info.If you need any help give me a call 509-750-0248
> Ralph
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, ART <tookum@> wrote:
> >
> > WOW!  Thanks.  You wouldn't believe the plan I had brewing.......
> >  
> > Art
> > 96 Seren, 3750
> >
> > --- On Sat, 3/17/12, byrdmona <byrdmona@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: byrdmona <byrdmona@>
> > Subject: [Safarifriends] Re: Velvet Ride - revisited
> > To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Saturday, March 17, 2012, 11:23 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> > Art
> > No need to use the jacks at all. Just loosen all four bolts, but DO NOT TAKE THEM OUT. After loosening the bolts remove the shims as you want, and then take ONE bolt out and carefully clean all the threads, lubricate, and place it back in place. Repeat for the remaining three bolts. Torque all four bolts to specified value, and you are finished with that connection.
> >
> > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, ART <tookum@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I've read all the posts relating to adjusting the suspension and have printed Ralph's paper.  I'm measuring approx 24 inches on the front.   Question.  To what extent do you jack the front end to relieve pressure before loosening the shakle bolts?
> > >  
> > > Art
> > > 96 Seren, 3750
> > >  
> > >  
> > > --- On Sat, 2/18/12, pschafersr <pschafersr@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: pschafersr <pschafersr@>
> > > Subject: [Safarifriends] Re: Velvet Ride
> > > To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Saturday, February 18, 2012, 5:57 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Lynn...Good questions, and there are several threads going about the velvet ride...
> > >
> > > Ours is a 2001 Safari Zanzibar, 38(+) footer with two slides. The reason we replaced the suspension was the ride height. We were unable to adjust the ride height any more, and the last adjustment left no shims on one side of each axle. The shims are used to adjust the ride height on this type of torsilastic suspension. Take out a shim, it lowers that side of the axle 1/4 inch. Add a shim, and it raises that side of the axle 1/4 inch. We were riding on the bumperstops with very little suspension travel to dampen the beating from the roads. Other things were being affected as well, such as steering geometry, body roll, and driveline angle. Ride height is as much or more important to the chassis as it is to the rest of the coach.
> > >
> > > The rig has 103,000 miles on it, and I am the second owner. I didn't know anything about the ride height the first year or so I woned the coach, and just thought it was the way it was supposed to be. When I started researching and talking to other Safari owners, I started trying to tweak things a little. After my foirst ride height adjustment (which only leveled side to side on each axle, not the front to back) there was noticeable improvement, but that didn't last for long, probably because of the difference of height front to rear. We live in the coach and are too deep in the debt to trade up to a newer coach. We love the lifestyle and travel about 10,000 miles in a typical year. Therefore, it is important to us to ride as comfortably and break as few dishes as possible.
> > >
> > > For a long time we just got used to the rough ride and other issues and no one I talked to before Redlands RV ever gave me any hope it could be any better (although there was some experimentation I heard about with air bags added to the suspension, equally expensive).
> > >
> > > Although we have only driven the coach 200 miles since the project was completed, I am convinced it was the right decision and am happy with the results!
> > >
> > > Phil
> > > -
> > > -- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "Big Bubba Safari" <bigbubbasafari@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Phil. I have a 98 35' Safari, and some questions: What did you have replaced? What was the cause, i.e, what led you to replace it? Catastrophic failure, regular maintenance check, etc? How many miles on your rig, length, etc.?
> > > >
> > > > This would be useful info for me. I am concerned about being an orphan, since Big Bubba is the last rig I will ever buy, unless he becomes obsolete.
> > > >
> > > > It might be helpful if Ralph could give us some ideas about preventive maintenance and troubleshooting. I assume Redlands RV is in southern CA. My regular shop, Roadrunner RV in Brentwood (northern CA) only works on a couple of Safaris, so I might need a shop that has more experience with the torislastic suspension.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks! Lynn Holland,in Big Bubba, the 98 3506 Safari, 300 hp CAT
> > > >
> > > > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "pschafersr" <pschafersr@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Ralph, we've heard a lot about you at Redlands RV...
> > > > >
> > > > > We drove the coach back to Quartzsite today after having the torsilastic suspension replaced at Redlands, and I gotta tell you it has never ridden that well! It was actually a joy to drive...even the dog noticed the difference!
> > > > >
> > > > > I posted pics of the project. Thanks again...
> > > > >
> > > > > Phil
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "andrewsralph42" <andrewsralph42@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi I am Ralph Andrews. I have owened a 1996 Safari with velvet ride and put over 300,000 miles on it since i bought it new.I have many parts avalible for velvet ride.Yes I do own Pioneer Metal Works and did purchase the velvet ride inventory from Navestar.
> > > > > > I welcome calls and Questions any time.509 750 0248.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16390 From: FBrouss211@aol.com Date: 3/18/2012
Subject: Re: Velvet Ride - revisited
A good source for information and service on historical suspension
systems used by Safari is Kaiser alignment in Eugene, Oregon,
"http://www.kaiserbrakealignment.com/".
They've solved suspension problems on my 1999 Magnum that no one else
could solve.
Based on discussions at their shop, they did a lot of special retro
development work for Safari to resolve design flaws related to serious
braking and Velvet suspension problems.


-----Original Message-----
From: John <jpmaxfield@...>
To: Safarifriends <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sun, Mar 18, 2012 5:40 am
Subject: [Safarifriends] Re: Velvet Ride - revisited

 
OK Guys, I'm confused, I have a 2000 Zanzibar with a 4 bag air system,
was this an option? I read about Velvet Ride in coaches before and
after mine was born. Just curious. It does ride good, but a little
soft at times, new shocks installed 2 years ago, Bilsteins, may try
Koni's..

John M
2000 Zanzibar 3886

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "andrewsralph42"
<andrewsralph42@...> wrote:
>
> Art
> You got the wright info.If you need any help give me a call
509-750-0248
> Ralph
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, ART <tookum@> wrote:
> >
> > WOW!  Thanks.  You wouldn't believe the plan I had
brewing.......
> >  
> > Art
> > 96 Seren, 3750
> >
> > --- On Sat, 3/17/12, byrdmona <byrdmona@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: byrdmona <byrdmona@>
> > Subject: [Safarifriends] Re: Velvet Ride - revisited
> > To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
> > Date: Saturday, March 17, 2012, 11:23 AM
> >
> >
> >
> >  
> >
> >
> >
> > Art
> > No need to use the jacks at all. Just loosen all four bolts,
but DO NOT TAKE THEM OUT. After loosening the bolts remove the shims as
you want, and then take ONE bolt out and carefully clean all the
threads, lubricate, and place it back in place. Repeat for the
remaining three bolts. Torque all four bolts to specified value, and
you are finished with that connection.
> >
> > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, ART <tookum@>
wrote:
> > >
> > > I've read all the posts relating to adjusting the
suspension and have printed Ralph's paper.  I'm measuring approx 24
inches on the front.   Question.  To what extent do you jack
the front end to relieve pressure before loosening the shakle bolts?
> > >  
> > > Art
> > > 96 Seren, 3750
> > >  
> > >  
> > > --- On Sat, 2/18/12, pschafersr <pschafersr@>
wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > From: pschafersr <pschafersr@>
> > > Subject: [Safarifriends] Re: Velvet Ride
> > > To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
> > > Date: Saturday, February 18, 2012, 5:57 PM
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >  
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Hi Lynn...Good questions, and there are several threads
going about the velvet ride...
> > >
> > > Ours is a 2001 Safari Zanzibar, 38(+) footer with two
slides. The reason we replaced the suspension was the ride height. We
were unable to adjust the ride height any more, and the last adjustment
left no shims on one side of each axle. The shims are used to adjust
the ride height on this type of torsilastic suspension. Take out a
shim, it lowers that side of the axle 1/4 inch. Add a shim, and it
raises that side of the axle 1/4 inch. We were riding on the
bumperstops with very little suspension travel to dampen the beating
from the roads. Other things were being affected as well, such as
steering geometry, body roll, and driveline angle. Ride height is as
much or more important to the chassis as it is to the rest of the
coach.
> > >
> > > The rig has 103,000 miles on it, and I am the second
owner. I didn't know anything about the ride height the first year or
so I woned the coach, and just thought it was the way it was supposed
to be. When I started researching and talking to other Safari owners, I
started trying to tweak things a little. After my foirst ride height
adjustment (which only leveled side to side on each axle, not the front
to back) there was noticeable improvement, but that didn't last for
long, probably because of the difference of height front to rear. We
live in the coach and are too deep in the debt to trade up to a newer
coach. We love the lifestyle and travel about 10,000 miles in a typical
year. Therefore, it is important to us to ride as comfortably and break
as few dishes as possible.
> > >
> > > For a long time we just got used to the rough ride and
other issues and no one I talked to before Redlands RV ever gave me any
hope it could be any better (although there was some experimentation I
heard about with air bags added to the suspension, equally expensive).
> > >
> > > Although we have only driven the coach 200 miles since
the project was completed, I am convinced it was the right decision and
am happy with the results!
> > >
> > > Phil
> > > -
> > > -- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "Big Bubba Safari"
<bigbubbasafari@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hi Phil. I have a 98 35' Safari, and some
questions: What did you have replaced? What was the cause, i.e, what
led you to replace it? Catastrophic failure, regular maintenance check,
etc? How many miles on your rig, length, etc.?
> > > >
> > > > This would be useful info for me. I am concerned
about being an orphan, since Big Bubba is the last rig I will ever buy,
unless he becomes obsolete.
> > > >
> > > > It might be helpful if Ralph could give us some
ideas about preventive maintenance and troubleshooting. I assume
Redlands RV is in southern CA. My regular shop, Roadrunner RV in
Brentwood (northern CA) only works on a couple of Safaris, so I might
need a shop that has more experience with the torislastic suspension.
> > > >
> > > > Thanks! Lynn Holland,in Big Bubba, the 98 3506
Safari, 300 hp CAT
> > > >
> > > > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "pschafersr"
<pschafersr@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Ralph, we've heard a lot about you at Redlands
RV...
> > > > >
> > > > > We drove the coach back to Quartzsite today
after having the torsilastic suspension replaced at Redlands, and I
gotta tell you it has never ridden that well! It was actually a joy to
drive...even the dog noticed the difference!
> > > > >
> > > > > I posted pics of the project. Thanks again...
> > > > >
> > > > > Phil
> > > > >
> > > > > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com,
"andrewsralph42" <andrewsralph42@> wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Hi I am Ralph Andrews. I have owened a
1996 Safari with velvet ride and put over 300,000 miles on it since i
bought it new.I have many parts avalible for velvet ride.Yes I do own
Pioneer Metal Works and did purchase the velvet ride inventory from
Navestar.
> > > > > > I welcome calls and Questions any
time.509 750 0248.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16497 From: dddugger9@q.com Date: 3/30/2012
Subject: Weak Shocks:

I have a Ivory Edition Safari 1995,37' and I need to replace  all of the shocks.What is everyone putting on theres, and who is supplying them, and at  the best price? Dean
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16498 From: John Ruff Date: 3/30/2012
Subject: Re: Weak Shocks:
Any new shock is better than a worn out shock.

A whole lot of us love Koni shocks.

I removed my good Bilsteins and replaced them with Koni's and am very happy that I did.

John Ruff

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, dddugger9@... wrote:
>
>
> I have a Ivory Edition Safari 1995,37' and I need to replace  all of the shocks.What is everyone putting on theres, and who is supplying them, and at  the best price? Dean
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16503 From: Iona Ruth Hoeppner Date: 3/31/2012
Subject: Re: Weak Shocks:
Hi, Dean! WE have a 995 Ivory Edition 40 footer. I think the shock are Murphy (they are yellow and blue) but they were on when we bought the coach last June.

We have absolutely no paperwork for our coach. Do you have a manual or any documentation at all? Would sure be willing to pay for a PDF or any sort of copy.

Enjoy your couch, we sure love ours!

iona

On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 9:18 PM, <dddugger9@...> wrote:
 


I have a Ivory Edition Safari 1995,37' and I need to replace  all of the shocks.What is everyone putting on theres, and who is supplying them, and at  the best price? Dean




--
Joyfully in Messiah,
iona

http://twitter.com/ionaruth
http://www.facebook.com/ionaruth
http://ionaruth.livejournal.com/


Group: Safarifriends Message: 16504 From: andrewsralph42 Date: 3/31/2012
Subject: Re: Weak Shocks:
Your shocks are Bilstein shocks, original shocks were Koni. I have a 1996 and have done testing of various brands and models within the brands. It is my consenses (and many agree with me) that Koni shocks work better than anything else on Safari coaches with Velvet-Ride suspension. I have tested the Koni adjustable series and the new Koni FSD series and have concluded that the adjustable series work the best for Velvet-Ride. Part numbers are: front - #88-1641sp3 and rear - #88-1458sp2. Pricing I do not know, but there are two companies that I know of that typically stock them and they are: Brazel's RV Performance in Centralia, WA and Redlands Truck & RV in Redlands, CA.

Ralph

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, Iona Ruth Hoeppner <ionaruthie@...> wrote:
>
> Hi, Dean! WE have a 995 Ivory Edition 40 footer. I think the shock are
> Murphy (they are yellow and blue) but they were on when we bought the coach
> last June.
>
> We have absolutely no paperwork for our coach. Do you have a manual or any
> documentation at all? Would sure be willing to pay for a PDF or any sort of
> copy.
>
> Enjoy your couch, we sure love ours!
>
> iona
>
> On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 9:18 PM, <dddugger9@...> wrote:
>
> > **
> >
> >
> >
> > I have a Ivory Edition Safari 1995,37' and I need to replace all of the
> > shocks.What is everyone putting on theres, and who is supplying them, and
> > at the best price? Dean
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>
> --
> Joyfully in Messiah,
> iona
>
> http://twitter.com/ionaruth
> http://www.facebook.com/ionaruth
> http://ionaruth.livejournal.com/
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16505 From: fountking Date: 3/31/2012
Subject: Re: Weak Shocks:
I just ordered mine today off Koni's web site $149.00 each $17.00 shipping on the 4.>>>>>>Bob K 96 Serengeti Velvet-Ride
--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "andrewsralph42" <andrewsralph42@...> wrote:
>
> Your shocks are Bilstein shocks, original shocks were Koni. I have a 1996 and have done testing of various brands and models within the brands. It is my consenses (and many agree with me) that Koni shocks work better than anything else on Safari coaches with Velvet-Ride suspension. I have tested the Koni adjustable series and the new Koni FSD series and have concluded that the adjustable series work the best for Velvet-Ride. Part numbers are: front - #88-1641sp3 and rear - #88-1458sp2. Pricing I do not know, but there are two companies that I know of that typically stock them and they are: Brazel's RV Performance in Centralia, WA and Redlands Truck & RV in Redlands, CA.
>
> Ralph
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, Iona Ruth Hoeppner <ionaruthie@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, Dean! WE have a 995 Ivory Edition 40 footer. I think the shock are
> > Murphy (they are yellow and blue) but they were on when we bought the coach
> > last June.
> >
> > We have absolutely no paperwork for our coach. Do you have a manual or any
> > documentation at all? Would sure be willing to pay for a PDF or any sort of
> > copy.
> >
> > Enjoy your couch, we sure love ours!
> >
> > iona
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 9:18 PM, <dddugger9@> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have a Ivory Edition Safari 1995,37' and I need to replace all of the
> > > shocks.What is everyone putting on theres, and who is supplying them, and
> > > at the best price? Dean
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Joyfully in Messiah,
> > iona
> >
> > http://twitter.com/ionaruth
> > http://www.facebook.com/ionaruth
> > http://ionaruth.livejournal.com/
> >
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16506 From: fountking Date: 3/31/2012
Subject: Re: Weak Shocks:
Ralph the Koni site lists them as front881490sp2 rear 881458sp2 it is shown for Magnum chassis velvet ride I hope that is just a part # change Bob K 96 Serengeti

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "andrewsralph42" <andrewsralph42@...> wrote:
>
> Your shocks are Bilstein shocks, original shocks were Koni. I have a 1996 and have done testing of various brands and models within the brands. It is my consenses (and many agree with me) that Koni shocks work better than anything else on Safari coaches with Velvet-Ride suspension. I have tested the Koni adjustable series and the new Koni FSD series and have concluded that the adjustable series work the best for Velvet-Ride. Part numbers are: front - #88-1641sp3 and rear - #88-1458sp2. Pricing I do not know, but there are two companies that I know of that typically stock them and they are: Brazel's RV Performance in Centralia, WA and Redlands Truck & RV in Redlands, CA.
>
> Ralph
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, Iona Ruth Hoeppner <ionaruthie@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, Dean! WE have a 995 Ivory Edition 40 footer. I think the shock are
> > Murphy (they are yellow and blue) but they were on when we bought the coach
> > last June.
> >
> > We have absolutely no paperwork for our coach. Do you have a manual or any
> > documentation at all? Would sure be willing to pay for a PDF or any sort of
> > copy.
> >
> > Enjoy your couch, we sure love ours!
> >
> > iona
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 9:18 PM, <dddugger9@> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have a Ivory Edition Safari 1995,37' and I need to replace all of the
> > > shocks.What is everyone putting on theres, and who is supplying them, and
> > > at the best price? Dean
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Joyfully in Messiah,
> > iona
> >
> > http://twitter.com/ionaruth
> > http://www.facebook.com/ionaruth
> > http://ionaruth.livejournal.com/
> >
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16507 From: ART Date: 3/31/2012
Subject: Re: Weak Shocks:
I got mine from Koni about a year ago like Bob did.  Pricing about the same.
 
Art
96 Seren, 3750

--- On Sat, 3/31/12, fountking <fountking@...> wrote:

From: fountking <fountking@...>
Subject: [Safarifriends] Re: Weak Shocks:
To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
Date: Saturday, March 31, 2012, 1:58 PM

 

I just ordered mine today off Koni's web site $149.00 each $17.00 shipping on the 4.>>>>>>Bob K 96 Serengeti Velvet-Ride
--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "andrewsralph42" <andrewsralph42@...> wrote:
>
> Your shocks are Bilstein shocks, original shocks were Koni. I have a 1996 and have done testing of various brands and models within the brands. It is my consenses (and many agree with me) that Koni shocks work better than anything else on Safari coaches with Velvet-Ride suspension. I have tested the Koni adjustable series and the new Koni FSD series and have concluded that the adjustable series work the best for Velvet-Ride. Part numbers are: front - #88-1641sp3 and rear - #88-1458sp2. Pricing I do not know, but there are two companies that I know of that typically stock them and they are: Brazel's RV Performance in Centralia, WA and Redlands Truck & RV in Redlands, CA.
>
> Ralph
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, Iona Ruth Hoeppner <ionaruthie@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, Dean! WE have a 995 Ivory Edition 40 footer. I think the shock are
> > Murphy (they are yellow and blue) but they were on when we bought the coach
> > last June.
> >
> > We have absolutely no paperwork for our coach. Do you have a manual or any
> > documentation at all? Would sure be willing to pay for a PDF or any sort of
> > copy.
> >
> > Enjoy your couch, we sure love ours!
> >
> > iona
> >
> > On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 9:18 PM, <dddugger9@> wrote:
> >
> > > **
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > I have a Ivory Edition Safari 1995,37' and I need to replace all of the
> > > shocks.What is everyone putting on theres, and who is supplying them, and
> > > at the best price? Dean
> > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Joyfully in Messiah,
> > iona
> >
> > http://twitter.com/ionaruth
> > http://www.facebook.com/ionaruth
> > http://ionaruth.livejournal.com/
> >
>

Group: Safarifriends Message: 16508 From: byrdmona Date: 3/31/2012
Subject: Re: Weak Shocks:
I replaced mine with adjustable Koni's. Don't remember numbers, but got part numbers from Ralph Andrews. My coach is a 97 Serengeti and the Koni's made a significant improvement in ride and handling.

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, dddugger9@... wrote:
>
>
> I have a Ivory Edition Safari 1995,37' and I need to replace  all of the shocks.What is everyone putting on theres, and who is supplying them, and at  the best price? Dean
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16509 From: dddugger9@q.com Date: 3/31/2012
Subject: Re: Weak Shocks:
My coach was a repo, and I hsve no msnuals at all. I do want to thank all of you for the info, on the shocks,you all make this a great group.


From: "Iona Ruth Hoeppner" <ionaruthie@...>
To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2012 9:09:52 PM
Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] Weak Shocks:

 

Hi, Dean! WE have a 995 Ivory Edition 40 footer. I think the shock are Murphy (they are yellow and blue) but they were on when we bought the coach last June.


We have absolutely no paperwork for our coach. Do you have a manual or any documentation at all? Would sure be willing to pay for a PDF or any sort of copy.

Enjoy your couch, we sure love ours!

iona

On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 9:18 PM, <dddugger9@...> wrote:
 


I have a Ivory Edition Safari 1995,37' and I need to replace  all of the shocks.What is everyone putting on theres, and who is supplying them, and at  the best price? Dean




--
Joyfully in Messiah,
iona

http://twitter.com/ionaruth
http://www.facebook.com/ionaruth
http://ionaruth.livejournal.com/


Group: Safarifriends Message: 16514 From: Ricardo Date: 4/1/2012
Subject: Shocks
OK. everyone talks about shocks for the velvet ride suspension but I have a 1996 Sahara with springs. So the question is what shocks are recomended for an RV with springs not velvet ride. Are they the same KONI part numbers.

Rico
1996 Sahara 250 CAT
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16521 From: TERRY SELVIDGE Date: 4/1/2012
Subject: Carefree awning spring
Hey folks, The awning spring sounds like it came lose
inside the round tube,anybody have this happen and what to
do?thanks T&B 96 sahara 250 cat......With manuel
awning....Thanks











"Ricardo" <rpalominod90@...> wrote:
> OK. everyone talks about shocks for the velvet ride
>suspension but I have a 1996 Sahara with springs. So the
>question is what shocks are recomended for an RV with
>springs not velvet ride. Are they the same KONI part
>numbers.
>
> Rico
> 1996 Sahara 250 CAT
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16529 From: Dick Missett Date: 4/1/2012
Subject: Re: Carefree awning spring
Terry
I changed one on a Zip Dee (previous coach) and it was no big deal. You might find a replacment one here.  http://www.factoryrvsurplus.com/products.php?product_id=1457
 
Dick Missett
98 Sahara 300 CAT
Wyoming, PA
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
0 and it was not difficult

From: TERRY SELVIDGE <selvidge@...>
To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2012 9:12 PM
Subject: [Safarifriends] Carefree awning spring

 


Hey folks, The awning spring sounds like it came lose
inside the round tube,anybody have this happen and what to
do?thanks T&B 96 sahara 250 cat......With manuel
awning....Thanks

"Ricardo" <rpalominod90@...> wrote:
> OK. everyone talks about shocks for the velvet ride
>suspension but I have a 1996 Sahara with springs. So the
>question is what shocks are recomended for an RV with
>springs not velvet ride. Are they the same KONI part
>numbers.
>
> Rico
> 1996 Sahara 250 CAT
>



Group: Safarifriends Message: 16531 From: TERRY SELVIDGE Date: 4/1/2012
Subject: Re: Carefree awning spring
Dick that was a great web site for the awning parts and
how to fix,very cool thanks Terry











Dick Missett <dngmissett@...> wrote:
> Terry
> I changed one on a Zip Dee (previous coach) and it was
>no big deal. You might find a replacment one
>here.  http://www.factoryrvsurplus.com/products.php?product_id=1457
>  
> Dick Missett
> 98 Sahara 300 CAT
> Wyoming, PA
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
>  
> 0 and it was not difficult
>
>
> ________________________________
>From: TERRY SELVIDGE <selvidge@...>
> To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2012 9:12 PM
> Subject: [Safarifriends] Carefree awning spring
>
>
>  
>
>
> Hey folks, The awning spring sounds like it came lose
> inside the round tube,anybody have this happen and what
>to
> do?thanks T&B 96 sahara 250 cat......With manuel
> awning....Thanks
>
> "Ricardo" <rpalominod90@...> wrote:
>> OK. everyone talks about shocks for the velvet ride
>>suspension but I have a 1996 Sahara with springs. So the
>>question is what shocks are recomended for an RV with
>>springs not velvet ride. Are they the same KONI part
>>numbers.
>>
>> Rico
>> 1996 Sahara 250 CAT
>>
>
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16532 From: John Ruff Date: 4/1/2012
Subject: Re: Shocks
Rico -- My Safari is just like yours and I love the Koni shocks!

Leaf springs on Magnum chassis

John Ruff

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "Ricardo" <rpalominod90@...> wrote:
>
> OK. everyone talks about shocks for the velvet ride suspension but I have a 1996 Sahara with springs. So the question is what shocks are recomended for an RV with springs not velvet ride. Are they the same KONI part numbers.
>
> Rico
> 1996 Sahara 250 CAT
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16535 From: rpalominod90@yahoo.com Date: 4/2/2012
Subject: Re: Shocks
John,
Did you use the same shocks as the velvet ride Safari's or are they different?

Thanks,
Rico

Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless


-----Original message-----
From: John Ruff <j_r_ruff@...>
To:
Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
Sent:
Mon, Apr 2, 2012 04:02:43 GMT+00:00
Subject:
[Safarifriends] Re: Shocks

 

Rico -- My Safari is just like yours and I love the Koni shocks!

Leaf springs on Magnum chassis

John Ruff

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "Ricardo" <rpalominod90@...> wrote:
>
> OK. everyone talks about shocks for the velvet ride suspension but I have a 1996 Sahara with springs. So the question is what shocks are recomended for an RV with springs not velvet ride. Are they the same KONI part numbers.
>
> Rico
> 1996 Sahara 250 CAT
>

Group: Safarifriends Message: 16536 From: fountking Date: 4/2/2012
Subject: Re: Shocks
Rico go here and you can look them up http://www.konirv.com/
Bob K 96 serengeti Velvet Ride Koni's on order

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "rpalominod90@..." <rpalominod90@...> wrote:
>
> John,
> Did you use the same shocks as the velvet ride Safari's or are they
> different?
>
> Thanks,
> Rico
>
> Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless
>
> -----Original message-----
> From: John Ruff <j_r_ruff@...>
> To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, Apr 2, 2012 04:02:43 GMT+00:00
> Subject: [Safarifriends] Re: Shocks
>
> Rico -- My Safari is just like yours and I love the Koni shocks!
>
> Leaf springs on Magnum chassis
>
> John Ruff
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "Ricardo" <rpalominod90@> wrote:
> >
> > OK. everyone talks about shocks for the velvet ride suspension but I have
> a 1996 Sahara with springs. So the question is what shocks are recomended
> for an RV with springs not velvet ride. Are they the same KONI part numbers.
>
> >
> > Rico
> > 1996 Sahara 250 CAT
> >
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16537 From: rpalominod90@yahoo.com Date: 4/2/2012
Subject: Re: Shocks
Thank you Bob. I'll check it out.

Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless


-----Original message-----
From: fountking <fountking@...>
To:
Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
Sent:
Mon, Apr 2, 2012 12:04:24 GMT+00:00
Subject:
[Safarifriends] Re: Shocks

 

Rico go here and you can look them up http://www.konirv.com/
Bob K 96 serengeti Velvet Ride Koni's on order

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "rpalominod90@..." <rpalominod90@...> wrote:
>
> John,
> Did you use the same shocks as the velvet ride Safari's or are they
> different?
>
> Thanks,
> Rico
>
> Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless
>
> -----Original message-----
> From: John Ruff <j_r_ruff@...>
> To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, Apr 2, 2012 04:02:43 GMT+00:00
> Subject: [Safarifriends] Re: Shocks
>
> Rico -- My Safari is just like yours and I love the Koni shocks!
>
> Leaf springs on Magnum chassis
>
> John Ruff
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "Ricardo" <rpalominod90@> wrote:
> >
> > OK. everyone talks about shocks for the velvet ride suspension but I have
> a 1996 Sahara with springs. So the question is what shocks are recomended
> for an RV with springs not velvet ride. Are they the same KONI part numbers.
>
> >
> > Rico
> > 1996 Sahara 250 CAT
> >
>

Group: Safarifriends Message: 16540 From: TheMopedWhiz Date: 4/2/2012
Subject: Re: Weak Shocks:
Ralph
i was just looking at the koni site
we have a 95 sahara on the magnum leaf spring chassis
they suggest the
KONI rv Price: $172.00
88051010
NEW FSD
for the front

and
KONI rv Price: $149.00
881458SP2

for the rear

do you agree with this, or is there another set of numbers you would use

we full time and carry a lot of stuff, plus a 300# scooter on the rear
and and extra 400# of AGM batteries
yes placed on the drivers side the OEM battery tray is on the passenger side



--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "fountking" <fountking@...> wrote:
>
>
> I just ordered mine today off Koni's web site $149.00 each $17.00 shipping on the 4.>>>>>>Bob K 96 Serengeti Velvet-Ride
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "andrewsralph42" <andrewsralph42@> wrote:
> >
> > Your shocks are Bilstein shocks, original shocks were Koni. I have a 1996 and have done testing of various brands and models within the brands. It is my consenses (and many agree with me) that Koni shocks work better than anything else on Safari coaches with Velvet-Ride suspension. I have tested the Koni adjustable series and the new Koni FSD series and have concluded that the adjustable series work the best for Velvet-Ride. Part numbers are: front - #88-1641sp3 and rear - #88-1458sp2. Pricing I do not know, but there are two companies that I know of that typically stock them and they are: Brazel's RV Performance in Centralia, WA and Redlands Truck & RV in Redlands, CA.
> >
> > Ralph
> >
> > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, Iona Ruth Hoeppner <ionaruthie@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi, Dean! WE have a 995 Ivory Edition 40 footer. I think the shock are
> > > Murphy (they are yellow and blue) but they were on when we bought the coach
> > > last June.
> > >
> > > We have absolutely no paperwork for our coach. Do you have a manual or any
> > > documentation at all? Would sure be willing to pay for a PDF or any sort of
> > > copy.
> > >
> > > Enjoy your couch, we sure love ours!
> > >
> > > iona
> > >
> > > On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 9:18 PM, <dddugger9@> wrote:
> > >
> > > > **
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > I have a Ivory Edition Safari 1995,37' and I need to replace all of the
> > > > shocks.What is everyone putting on theres, and who is supplying them, and
> > > > at the best price? Dean
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Joyfully in Messiah,
> > > iona
> > >
> > > http://twitter.com/ionaruth
> > > http://www.facebook.com/ionaruth
> > > http://ionaruth.livejournal.com/
> > >
> >
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16541 From: andrewsralph42 Date: 4/2/2012
Subject: Re: Weak Shocks:
I am not familiar with how the Koni shocks are on a leaf spring chassis, as I have not had the opportunity to test them. I do know that the FSD Koni's work well on other motor homes with leaf spring chassis.

There have been some comments made on my suggestions and Koni's recommendations on the front shocks for the Velvet-Ride chassis. I have recommended the 88-1641sp3 and Koni recommends the 88-1490sp2. In the testing that I have done, I have found that the 88-1641sp3 out performs the 88-1490sp2. I have had better success with the 88-1641sp3 on the front. These are just my opinions and experiences. I hope this answers some of the questions with Koni's and my recommendations.

Ralph

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "TheMopedWhiz" <themopedwhiz@...> wrote:
>
> Ralph
> i was just looking at the koni site
> we have a 95 sahara on the magnum leaf spring chassis
> they suggest the
> KONI rv Price: $172.00
> 88051010
> NEW FSD
> for the front
>
> and
> KONI rv Price: $149.00
> 881458SP2
>
> for the rear
>
> do you agree with this, or is there another set of numbers you would use
>
> we full time and carry a lot of stuff, plus a 300# scooter on the rear
> and and extra 400# of AGM batteries
> yes placed on the drivers side the OEM battery tray is on the passenger side
>
>
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "fountking" <fountking@> wrote:
> >
> >
> > I just ordered mine today off Koni's web site $149.00 each $17.00 shipping on the 4.>>>>>>Bob K 96 Serengeti Velvet-Ride
> > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "andrewsralph42" <andrewsralph42@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Your shocks are Bilstein shocks, original shocks were Koni. I have a 1996 and have done testing of various brands and models within the brands. It is my consenses (and many agree with me) that Koni shocks work better than anything else on Safari coaches with Velvet-Ride suspension. I have tested the Koni adjustable series and the new Koni FSD series and have concluded that the adjustable series work the best for Velvet-Ride. Part numbers are: front - #88-1641sp3 and rear - #88-1458sp2. Pricing I do not know, but there are two companies that I know of that typically stock them and they are: Brazel's RV Performance in Centralia, WA and Redlands Truck & RV in Redlands, CA.
> > >
> > > Ralph
> > >
> > > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, Iona Ruth Hoeppner <ionaruthie@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi, Dean! WE have a 995 Ivory Edition 40 footer. I think the shock are
> > > > Murphy (they are yellow and blue) but they were on when we bought the coach
> > > > last June.
> > > >
> > > > We have absolutely no paperwork for our coach. Do you have a manual or any
> > > > documentation at all? Would sure be willing to pay for a PDF or any sort of
> > > > copy.
> > > >
> > > > Enjoy your couch, we sure love ours!
> > > >
> > > > iona
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 9:18 PM, <dddugger9@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > **
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > I have a Ivory Edition Safari 1995,37' and I need to replace all of the
> > > > > shocks.What is everyone putting on theres, and who is supplying them, and
> > > > > at the best price? Dean
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > Joyfully in Messiah,
> > > > iona
> > > >
> > > > http://twitter.com/ionaruth
> > > > http://www.facebook.com/ionaruth
> > > > http://ionaruth.livejournal.com/
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16543 From: John Clevenger Date: 4/2/2012
Subject: Re: steering stabilizer

I use the Safe-T-Plus and works very well, with good shocks/tires all three are important! JohnC

 

96 Safari Sahara 3540 250 Cat

2005 TJ/Honda

(O) I I I I I I I (O)

 

From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of svenbeck@...
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 6:36 PM
To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Safarifriends] Re: steering stabilizer

 

 


I've already decided that I need it. Any recommedation on brand (and why)?
Sven

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, FBrouss211@... wrote:
>
> About steering stabilizers...
>  
> Watch the Michelin video about front tire blowouts and you'll see why steering stabilizers are crucial for heavy vehicles.
> I blew a front, driver side tire on our 1999 Safari Continental in 2000 doing 55 mph with devestating results. The steering wheel shock was so great I could not prevent the rig from immediately going left; hitting a concrete center divider..did $13,000 in damage and would have killed us if not for the divider seperating us from oncoming 18 wheelers.
>
> 4 lessons learned:
> 1. Front steering stabilizers are crucial and should be original equipment. Watch the study videos and films from Michelin (and others) showing what happens with, and without stabilizers, installed on heavy motorhome type rigs. Install one if you don't already own one.
>
> 2. Highway patrol and trucker safety instructors are correct when they say heavy vehicles are exttremely different than cars during front tire blowouts. The sudden sideways momentum is so great that drivers must do what is not normal..stomping the accelerator. This allows the rear powered rear wheels to push you forward to overcome the sideways momentum. Truckers know this from training; RVers do not.
> 3. Document.. and submit suspicious looking tire failures to the maker..especially when damage is significant. I did..Goodyear acknowledged a desogn problem and paid all expenses.
> 4. Don't assume tires are sized and pressured correctly on RV rigs..especially older ones. KNOW what is right and monitor pressures regularily. Makers and dealers have been known to set pressures low for softer; impressive demo rides.
>
> Fred
> 1999 safari connie
> 113,000 miles; owned since new.
> 3126b CAT
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: svenbeck@... svensd@...
> To: Safarifriends Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, Apr 2, 2012 1:14 am
> Subject: [Safarifriends] steering stabilizer
>
>   Almost five years ago, Dwayne ("rockwoodfive") asked the following about steering stabiizers:
>
> Any pro's or con's on:
>
> Blue Ox's TruCenter Steering Control?
>
> Safe-T-Plus Stabilizer?
>
> Tiger Tracks System?
>
> No one responded at that time. Has anyone had any experience since then?
> Thanks, Sven
>

Group: Safarifriends Message: 16544 From: TheMopedWhiz Date: 4/2/2012
Subject: Re: Weak Shocks:
Okay thanks Ralph
if there are no conflicting posts about what to use on the leaf spring chassis, i will go with Koni's recommendation, i've waited 6 months, i can wait another day or two then order them


--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "andrewsralph42" <andrewsralph42@...> wrote:
>
> I am not familiar with how the Koni shocks are on a leaf spring chassis, as I have not had the opportunity to test them. I do know that the FSD Koni's work well on other motor homes with leaf spring chassis.
>
> There have been some comments made on my suggestions and Koni's recommendations on the front shocks for the Velvet-Ride chassis. I have recommended the 88-1641sp3 and Koni recommends the 88-1490sp2. In the testing that I have done, I have found that the 88-1641sp3 out performs the 88-1490sp2. I have had better success with the 88-1641sp3 on the front. These are just my opinions and experiences. I hope this answers some of the questions with Koni's and my recommendations.
>
> Ralph
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "TheMopedWhiz" <themopedwhiz@> wrote:
> >
> > Ralph
> > i was just looking at the koni site
> > we have a 95 sahara on the magnum leaf spring chassis
> > they suggest the
> > KONI rv Price: $172.00
> > 88051010
> > NEW FSD
> > for the front
> >
> > and
> > KONI rv Price: $149.00
> > 881458SP2
> >
> > for the rear
> >
> > do you agree with this, or is there another set of numbers you would use
> >
> > we full time and carry a lot of stuff, plus a 300# scooter on the rear
> > and and extra 400# of AGM batteries
> > yes placed on the drivers side the OEM battery tray is on the passenger side
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "fountking" <fountking@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I just ordered mine today off Koni's web site $149.00 each $17.00 shipping on the 4.>>>>>>Bob K 96 Serengeti Velvet-Ride
> > > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "andrewsralph42" <andrewsralph42@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Your shocks are Bilstein shocks, original shocks were Koni. I have a 1996 and have done testing of various brands and models within the brands. It is my consenses (and many agree with me) that Koni shocks work better than anything else on Safari coaches with Velvet-Ride suspension. I have tested the Koni adjustable series and the new Koni FSD series and have concluded that the adjustable series work the best for Velvet-Ride. Part numbers are: front - #88-1641sp3 and rear - #88-1458sp2. Pricing I do not know, but there are two companies that I know of that typically stock them and they are: Brazel's RV Performance in Centralia, WA and Redlands Truck & RV in Redlands, CA.
> > > >
> > > > Ralph
> > > >
> > > > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, Iona Ruth Hoeppner <ionaruthie@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi, Dean! WE have a 995 Ivory Edition 40 footer. I think the shock are
> > > > > Murphy (they are yellow and blue) but they were on when we bought the coach
> > > > > last June.
> > > > >
> > > > > We have absolutely no paperwork for our coach. Do you have a manual or any
> > > > > documentation at all? Would sure be willing to pay for a PDF or any sort of
> > > > > copy.
> > > > >
> > > > > Enjoy your couch, we sure love ours!
> > > > >
> > > > > iona
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 9:18 PM, <dddugger9@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > **
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have a Ivory Edition Safari 1995,37' and I need to replace all of the
> > > > > > shocks.What is everyone putting on theres, and who is supplying them, and
> > > > > > at the best price? Dean
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Joyfully in Messiah,
> > > > > iona
> > > > >
> > > > > http://twitter.com/ionaruth
> > > > > http://www.facebook.com/ionaruth
> > > > > http://ionaruth.livejournal.com/
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16545 From: John Clevenger Date: 4/3/2012
Subject: Re: Weak Shocks:

Upgrading to Koni ‘s was the one major ride improvements that my wife was very happy with, the tires helped some but Koni are the best for me on the Safari! JohnC

 

96 Safari Sahara 3540 250 Cat

2005 TJ/Honda

(O) I I I I I I I (O)

 

From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of TheMopedWhiz
Sent: Monday, April 02, 2012 11:49 PM
To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Safarifriends] Re: Weak Shocks:

 

 

Okay thanks Ralph
if there are no conflicting posts about what to use on the leaf spring chassis, i will go with Koni's recommendation, i've waited 6 months, i can wait another day or two then order them


--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "andrewsralph42" <andrewsralph42@...> wrote:
>
> I am not familiar with how the Koni shocks are on a leaf spring chassis, as I have not had the opportunity to test them. I do know that the FSD Koni's work well on other motor homes with leaf spring chassis.
>
> There have been some comments made on my suggestions and Koni's recommendations on the front shocks for the Velvet-Ride chassis. I have recommended the 88-1641sp3 and Koni recommends the 88-1490sp2. In the testing that I have done, I have found that the 88-1641sp3 out performs the 88-1490sp2. I have had better success with the 88-1641sp3 on the front. These are just my opinions and experiences. I hope this answers some of the questions with Koni's and my recommendations.
>
> Ralph
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "TheMopedWhiz" <themopedwhiz@> wrote:
> >
> > Ralph
> > i was just looking at the koni site
> > we have a 95 sahara on the magnum leaf spring chassis
> > they suggest the
> > KONI rv Price: $172.00
> > 88051010
> > NEW FSD
> > for the front
> >
> > and
> > KONI rv Price: $149.00
> > 881458SP2
> >
> > for the rear
> >
> > do you agree with this, or is there another set of numbers you would use
> >
> > we full time and carry a lot of stuff, plus a 300# scooter on the rear
> > and and extra 400# of AGM batteries
> > yes placed on the drivers side the OEM battery tray is on the passenger side
> >
> >
> >
> > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "fountking" <fountking@> wrote:
> > >
> > >
> > > I just ordered mine today off Koni's web site $149.00 each $17.00 shipping on the 4.>>>>>>Bob K 96 Serengeti Velvet-Ride
> > > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "andrewsralph42" <andrewsralph42@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Your shocks are Bilstein shocks, original shocks were Koni. I have a 1996 and have done testing of various brands and models within the brands. It is my consenses (and many agree with me) that Koni shocks work better than anything else on Safari coaches with Velvet-Ride suspension. I have tested the Koni adjustable series and the new Koni FSD series and have concluded that the adjustable series work the best for Velvet-Ride. Part numbers are: front - #88-1641sp3 and rear - #88-1458sp2. Pricing I do not know, but there are two companies that I know of that typically stock them and they are: Brazel's RV Performance in Centralia, WA and Redlands Truck & RV in Redlands, CA.
> > > >
> > > > Ralph
> > > >
> > > > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, Iona Ruth Hoeppner <ionaruthie@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi, Dean! WE have a 995 Ivory Edition 40 footer. I think the shock are
> > > > > Murphy (they are yellow and blue) but they were on when we bought the coach
> > > > > last June.
> > > > >
> > > > > We have absolutely no paperwork for our coach. Do you have a manual or any
> > > > > documentation at all? Would sure be willing to pay for a PDF or any sort of
> > > > > copy.
> > > > >
> > > > > Enjoy your couch, we sure love ours!
> > > > >
> > > > > iona
> > > > >
> > > > > On Fri, Mar 30, 2012 at 9:18 PM, <dddugger9@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > **
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I have a Ivory Edition Safari 1995,37' and I need to replace all of the
> > > > > > shocks.What is everyone putting on theres, and who is supplying them, and
> > > > > > at the best price? Dean
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > > Joyfully in Messiah,
> > > > > iona
> > > > >
> > > > > http://twitter.com/ionaruth
> > > > > http://www.facebook.com/ionaruth
> > > > > http://ionaruth.livejournal.com/
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Group: Safarifriends Message: 16556 From: stuplich@ymail.com Date: 4/5/2012
Subject: Life of Shocks?
Because of the recent shock discussion a two questions came to mind.
1. How many miles are folks getting on shocks?
2. How did you determine you actually NEEDED new shocks?
My leaf sprung coach, (not VelvetRide), has 126,000 miles on the original Bilstein shocks.
I have owned/driven it for the last 99,000 miles and can not tell that I have a shock problem.
No oil leaks, no noticeable difference in ride/handling.
(No way to push down on a fender and release as with car shocks) LOL
Mel
'96 Sahara
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16557 From: stuplich@ymail.com Date: 4/5/2012
Subject: Re: Carefree awning spring
I have a 19' Fiesta by Carefree of Colorado awning.
The whole spring assembly with the locking hub is available through most any RV parts dept, but it is not cheap or necessary.
I repaired mine by removing the spring and related hardware from the tube using the instructions from the Carefree web site.
I found that the torsion spring had slipped/was slipping on the pin of the hub and was no longer twisting as is necessary.
I cleaned the end of the spring and the pin, applied JB Weld,
put/turned the spring onto the pin.
Then I drilled a 1/8 hole through spring, between the 1st and 2nd coils of the spring, and into hub pin.
I then used a hammer to tap a 1/8" roll pin in and ground off protruding part of the roll pin flush with the outside of the spring.
(This is the reason for the JB Weld and roll pin: I had "fixed" it
once before by just twisting the spring back on and it did NOT last long before it slipped again).
I reassembled and wound the spring according to the instructions from Carefree.
Mel
'96 Sahara

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "TERRY SELVIDGE" <selvidge@...> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hey folks, The awning spring sounds like it came lose
> inside the round tube,anybody have this happen and what to
> do?thanks T&B 96 sahara 250 cat......With manuel
> awning....Thanks
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> "Ricardo" <rpalominod90@...> wrote:
> > OK. everyone talks about shocks for the velvet ride
> >suspension but I have a 1996 Sahara with springs. So the
> >question is what shocks are recomended for an RV with
> >springs not velvet ride. Are they the same KONI part
> >numbers.
> >
> > Rico
> > 1996 Sahara 250 CAT
> >
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16558 From: Dan Date: 4/5/2012
Subject: Re: steering stabilizer
I have been considering a steering stabilizer since first picking up this coach. Roads in the Northeast are very rutted and I hope it will take a bit of the drift out in addition to the blow out issue.

I have been looking at a Roadmaster Reflex available at Etrailer:

http://www.etrailer.com/swaybars-1997_Magnum_Safari.htm

I have had great support from both Etrailer and Roadmaster.

Last year I put on new Koni shocks which helped the ride quality considerably.

Dan

1997 Sahara 30' w/ 250 Cat
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16559 From: TERRY SELVIDGE Date: 4/5/2012
Subject: Re: Carefree awning spring
THANKS MEL....TERRY
"stuplich@..." <stuplich@...> wrote:
> I have a 19' Fiesta by Carefree of Colorado awning.
> The whole spring assembly with the locking hub is
>available through most any RV parts dept, but it is not
>cheap or necessary.
> I repaired mine by removing the spring and related
>hardware from the tube using the instructions from the
>Carefree web site.
> I found that the torsion spring had slipped/was slipping
>on the pin of the hub and was no longer twisting as is
>necessary.
> I cleaned the end of the spring and the pin, applied JB
>Weld,
> put/turned the spring onto the pin.
> Then I drilled a 1/8 hole through spring, between the
>1st and 2nd coils of the spring, and into hub pin.
> I then used a hammer to tap a 1/8" roll pin in and
>ground off protruding part of the roll pin flush with the
>outside of the spring.
> (This is the reason for the JB Weld and roll pin: I had
>"fixed" it
> once before by just twisting the spring back on and it
>did NOT last long before it slipped again).
> I reassembled and wound the spring according to the
>instructions from Carefree.
> Mel
> '96 Sahara
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "TERRY SELVIDGE"
><selvidge@...> wrote:
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hey folks, The awning spring sounds like it came lose
>> inside the round tube,anybody have this happen and what
>>to
>> do?thanks T&B 96 sahara 250 cat......With manuel
>> awning....Thanks
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> "Ricardo" <rpalominod90@...> wrote:
>> > OK. everyone talks about shocks for the velvet ride
>> >suspension but I have a 1996 Sahara with springs. So
>>the
>> >question is what shocks are recomended for an RV with
>> >springs not velvet ride. Are they the same KONI part
>> >numbers.
>> >
>> > Rico
>> > 1996 Sahara 250 CAT
>> >
>>
>
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16560 From: eggmanmay@aol.com Date: 4/5/2012
Subject: Re: steering stabilizer
So a stabilizer helps with driving and steering, not only blow outs?  I have issues with my Sahara safari just driving especially if it is windy out.  No slop in steering, but wants to be all over the road.  Thansk!
 
In a message dated 4/5/2012 1:52:24 P.M. Central Daylight Time, danl2mil@... writes:
 



I have been considering a steering stabilizer since first picking up this coach. Roads in the Northeast are very rutted and I hope it will take a bit of the drift out in addition to the blow out issue.

I have been looking at a Roadmaster Reflex available at Etrailer:

http://www.etrailer.com/swaybars-1997_Magnum_Safari.htm

I have had great support from both Etrailer and Roadmaster.

Last year I put on new Koni shocks which helped the ride quality considerably.

Dan

1997 Sahara 30' w/ 250 Cat


Group: Safarifriends Message: 16569 From: John Ruff Date: 4/6/2012
Subject: Re: Life of Shocks?
Nothing lasts forever :)

One thing you may notice is that when a tractor trailer passes you, it wants to throw you off the highway.

I removed known good Bilstein shocks and replaced them with Koni shocks and was amazed at the difference in the ride. I will always buy Koni from now on.

John Ruff

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "stuplich@..." <stuplich@...> wrote:
>
> Because of the recent shock discussion a two questions came to mind.
> 1. How many miles are folks getting on shocks?
> 2. How did you determine you actually NEEDED new shocks?
> My leaf sprung coach, (not VelvetRide), has 126,000 miles on the original Bilstein shocks.
> I have owned/driven it for the last 99,000 miles and can not tell that I have a shock problem.
> No oil leaks, no noticeable difference in ride/handling.
> (No way to push down on a fender and release as with car shocks) LOL
> Mel
> '96 Sahara
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16574 From: fountking Date: 4/7/2012
Subject: If you are thinking Koni's
Just got an E-mail from them,my shocks are 6-8 Wks on back order.
>>>> Bob K 96 Serengeti Velvet Ride
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16589 From: TheMopedWhiz Date: 4/7/2012
Subject: Re: If you are thinking Koni's
ouch !! thats bad

i ordered mine "leaf spring suspension" the only email so far is the order confirmation email
i plan on being on the road in about 4 weeks so a big delay will mean cancelling my order

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "fountking" <fountking@...> wrote:
>
> Just got an E-mail from them,my shocks are 6-8 Wks on back order.
> >>>> Bob K 96 Serengeti Velvet Ride
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16591 From: rpalominod90@yahoo.com Date: 4/8/2012
Subject: Re: If you are thinking Koni's
What ones did you end up getting for your leaf sprung ?


Rico


Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless


-----Original message-----
From: TheMopedWhiz <themopedwhiz@...>
To:
Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
Sent:
Sun, Apr 8, 2012 04:57:22 GMT+00:00
Subject:
[Safarifriends] Re: If you are thinking Koni's

 


ouch !! thats bad

i ordered mine "leaf spring suspension" the only email so far is the order confirmation email
i plan on being on the road in about 4 weeks so a big delay will mean cancelling my order

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "fountking" <fountking@...> wrote:
>
> Just got an E-mail from them,my shocks are 6-8 Wks on back order.
> >>>> Bob K 96 Serengeti Velvet Ride
>

Group: Safarifriends Message: 16594 From: TheMopedWhiz Date: 4/8/2012
Subject: Re: If you are thinking Koni's
ours is a 95 Sahara and these are the ones i ordered

" Magnum Leaf Spring Front RV FSD Shock
Part #: 88051010
Qty: 2 for $177 each


Magnum Leaf Spring Rear RV Adjustable Shock
Part #: 881458SP2
Qty: 2 for $149 each"

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "rpalominod90@..." <rpalominod90@...> wrote:
>
> What ones did you end up getting for your leaf sprung ?
>
>
> Rico
>
>
> Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless
>
> -----Original message-----
> From: TheMopedWhiz <themopedwhiz@...>
> To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, Apr 8, 2012 04:57:22 GMT+00:00
> Subject: [Safarifriends] Re: If you are thinking Koni's
>
>
> ouch !! thats bad
>
> i ordered mine "leaf spring suspension" the only email so far is the order
> confirmation email
> i plan on being on the road in about 4 weeks so a big delay will mean
> cancelling my order
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "fountking" <fountking@> wrote:
> >
> > Just got an E-mail from them,my shocks are 6-8 Wks on back order.
> > >>>> Bob K 96 Serengeti Velvet Ride
> >
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16595 From: rpalominod90@yahoo.com Date: 4/9/2012
Subject: Re: If you are thinking Koni's
Thank you for the response.  I have the magnum chassis as well. I plan on ordering some before the summer.  If yours come in soon then please post if you notice a difference in the ride.

Thanks
Rico

Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless


-----Original message-----
From: TheMopedWhiz <themopedwhiz@...>
To:
Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
Sent:
Mon, Apr 9, 2012 04:06:35 GMT+00:00
Subject:
[Safarifriends] Re: If you are thinking Koni's

 

ours is a 95 Sahara and these are the ones i ordered

" Magnum Leaf Spring Front RV FSD Shock
Part #: 88051010
Qty: 2 for $177 each


Magnum Leaf Spring Rear RV Adjustable Shock
Part #: 881458SP2
Qty: 2 for $149 each"

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "rpalominod90@..." <rpalominod90@...> wrote:
>
> What ones did you end up getting for your leaf sprung ?
>
>
> Rico
>
>
> Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless
>
> -----Original message-----
> From: TheMopedWhiz <themopedwhiz@...>
> To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Sun, Apr 8, 2012 04:57:22 GMT+00:00
> Subject: [Safarifriends] Re: If you are thinking Koni's
>
>
> ouch !! thats bad
>
> i ordered mine "leaf spring suspension" the only email so far is the order
> confirmation email
> i plan on being on the road in about 4 weeks so a big delay will mean
> cancelling my order
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "fountking" <fountking@> wrote:
> >
> > Just got an E-mail from them,my shocks are 6-8 Wks on back order.
> > >>>> Bob K 96 Serengeti Velvet Ride
> >
>

Group: Safarifriends Message: 16599 From: TheMopedWhiz Date: 4/9/2012
Subject: Re: If you are thinking Koni's
i got the dreaded back order email today

the email said the fronts would ship soon, the rear shocks were on eight week back order

i just got finished amending/changing the order
i canceled the rear shocks, we will be on the road in june 2500 miles from here

i hope the fronts do arrive quickly, the play is to leave in a few weeks


--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "rpalominod90@..." <rpalominod90@...> wrote:
>
> Thank you for the response. I have the magnum chassis as well. I plan on
> ordering some before the summer. If yours come in soon then please post if
> you notice a difference in the ride.
>
> Thanks
> Rico
>
> Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless
>
> -----Original message-----
> From: TheMopedWhiz <themopedwhiz@...>
> To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Mon, Apr 9, 2012 04:06:35 GMT+00:00
> Subject: [Safarifriends] Re: If you are thinking Koni's
>
> ours is a 95 Sahara and these are the ones i ordered
>
> " Magnum Leaf Spring Front RV FSD Shock
> Part #: 88051010
> Qty: 2 for $177 each
>
>
> Magnum Leaf Spring Rear RV Adjustable Shock
> Part #: 881458SP2
> Qty: 2 for $149 each"
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "rpalominod90@" <rpalominod90@>
> wrote:
> >
> > What ones did you end up getting for your leaf sprung ?
> >
> >
> > Rico
> >
> >
> > Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless
> >
> > -----Original message-----
> > From: TheMopedWhiz <themopedwhiz@>
> > To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Sun, Apr 8, 2012 04:57:22 GMT+00:00
> > Subject: [Safarifriends] Re: If you are thinking Koni's
> >
> >
> > ouch !! thats bad
> >
> > i ordered mine "leaf spring suspension" the only email so far is the order
>
> > confirmation email
> > i plan on being on the road in about 4 weeks so a big delay will mean
> > cancelling my order
> >
> > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "fountking" <fountking@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Just got an E-mail from them,my shocks are 6-8 Wks on back order.
> > > >>>> Bob K 96 Serengeti Velvet Ride
> > >
> >
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16612 From: TheMopedWhiz Date: 4/12/2012
Subject: Re: If you are thinking Koni's
I got an email today , telling me my amended order of the front shocks has been shipped

shipping time 3-5 days ups
along with a tracking number
at least i will be able to install those before starting our summer trip
that should improve handling and ride some what


--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "TheMopedWhiz" <themopedwhiz@...> wrote:
>
> i got the dreaded back order email today
>
> the email said the fronts would ship soon, the rear shocks were on eight week back order
>
> i just got finished amending/changing the order
> i canceled the rear shocks, we will be on the road in june 2500 miles from here
>
> i hope the fronts do arrive quickly, the play is to leave in a few weeks
>
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "rpalominod90@" <rpalominod90@> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you for the response. I have the magnum chassis as well. I plan on
> > ordering some before the summer. If yours come in soon then please post if
> > you notice a difference in the ride.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Rico
> >
> > Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless
> >
> > -----Original message-----
> > From: TheMopedWhiz <themopedwhiz@>
> > To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
> > Sent: Mon, Apr 9, 2012 04:06:35 GMT+00:00
> > Subject: [Safarifriends] Re: If you are thinking Koni's
> >
> > ours is a 95 Sahara and these are the ones i ordered
> >
> > " Magnum Leaf Spring Front RV FSD Shock
> > Part #: 88051010
> > Qty: 2 for $177 each
> >
> >
> > Magnum Leaf Spring Rear RV Adjustable Shock
> > Part #: 881458SP2
> > Qty: 2 for $149 each"
> >
> > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "rpalominod90@" <rpalominod90@>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > What ones did you end up getting for your leaf sprung ?
> > >
> > >
> > > Rico
> > >
> > >
> > > Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless
> > >
> > > -----Original message-----
> > > From: TheMopedWhiz <themopedwhiz@>
> > > To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Sun, Apr 8, 2012 04:57:22 GMT+00:00
> > > Subject: [Safarifriends] Re: If you are thinking Koni's
> > >
> > >
> > > ouch !! thats bad
> > >
> > > i ordered mine "leaf spring suspension" the only email so far is the order
> >
> > > confirmation email
> > > i plan on being on the road in about 4 weeks so a big delay will mean
> > > cancelling my order
> > >
> > > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "fountking" <fountking@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Just got an E-mail from them,my shocks are 6-8 Wks on back order.
> > > > >>>> Bob K 96 Serengeti Velvet Ride
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16620 From: TheMopedWhiz Date: 4/17/2012
Subject: Re: If you are thinking Koni's
my front shocks arrived today

going to mount them on friday morning

should be an easy install with help from a friend to has the large sockets and breaker bar


--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "TheMopedWhiz" <themopedwhiz@...> wrote:
>
> I got an email today , telling me my amended order of the front shocks has been shipped
>
> shipping time 3-5 days ups
> along with a tracking number
> at least i will be able to install those before starting our summer trip
> that should improve handling and ride some what
>
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "TheMopedWhiz" <themopedwhiz@> wrote:
> >
> > i got the dreaded back order email today
> >
> > the email said the fronts would ship soon, the rear shocks were on eight week back order
> >
> > i just got finished amending/changing the order
> > i canceled the rear shocks, we will be on the road in june 2500 miles from here
> >
> > i hope the fronts do arrive quickly, the play is to leave in a few weeks
> >
> >
> > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "rpalominod90@" <rpalominod90@> wrote:
> > >
> > > Thank you for the response. I have the magnum chassis as well. I plan on
> > > ordering some before the summer. If yours come in soon then please post if
> > > you notice a difference in the ride.
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > > Rico
> > >
> > > Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless
> > >
> > > -----Original message-----
> > > From: TheMopedWhiz <themopedwhiz@>
> > > To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
> > > Sent: Mon, Apr 9, 2012 04:06:35 GMT+00:00
> > > Subject: [Safarifriends] Re: If you are thinking Koni's
> > >
> > > ours is a 95 Sahara and these are the ones i ordered
> > >
> > > " Magnum Leaf Spring Front RV FSD Shock
> > > Part #: 88051010
> > > Qty: 2 for $177 each
> > >
> > >
> > > Magnum Leaf Spring Rear RV Adjustable Shock
> > > Part #: 881458SP2
> > > Qty: 2 for $149 each"
> > >
> > > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "rpalominod90@" <rpalominod90@>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > What ones did you end up getting for your leaf sprung ?
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Rico
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless
> > > >
> > > > -----Original message-----
> > > > From: TheMopedWhiz <themopedwhiz@>
> > > > To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
> > > > Sent: Sun, Apr 8, 2012 04:57:22 GMT+00:00
> > > > Subject: [Safarifriends] Re: If you are thinking Koni's
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > ouch !! thats bad
> > > >
> > > > i ordered mine "leaf spring suspension" the only email so far is the order
> > >
> > > > confirmation email
> > > > i plan on being on the road in about 4 weeks so a big delay will mean
> > > > cancelling my order
> > > >
> > > > --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "fountking" <fountking@> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Just got an E-mail from them,my shocks are 6-8 Wks on back order.
> > > > > >>>> Bob K 96 Serengeti Velvet Ride
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16640 From: jquade_fwb Date: 4/22/2012
Subject: Re: steering drag link
For any and all things suspension/brakes/shocks/tires, Ralph Anders is "The Go To Guy." Ralph sometimes hangs out here and at SafariCoaches, plus he's a VP at the Safari-International.org site. You can get his email address at the .org site.

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, iexpectjd@... wrote:
>
> i am trying to locate a steering drag link for my 2000 continental safari with a magnum chassis . any ideas . I have called the Monaco numbers and they have no input .
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16641 From: byrdmona Date: 4/22/2012
Subject: Re: steering drag link
--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "jquade_fwb" <jquade44@...> wrote:
>
> For any and all things suspension/brakes/shocks/tires, Ralph Anders is "The Go To Guy." Ralph sometimes hangs out here and at SafariCoaches, plus he's a VP at the Safari-International.org site. You can get his email address at the .org site.
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, iexpectjd@ wrote:
> >
> > i am trying to locate a steering drag link for my 2000 continental safari with a magnum chassis . any ideas . I have called the Monaco numbers and they have no input .
> >
>
I believe the gentlemens name is Ralph Andrews, and yes he is the expert on Safari chassis and suspensiion!
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16661 From: Gary Date: 4/24/2012
Subject: Re: New to class A diesel MH
We have a 2001 Zanzibar with probably all the same equipment you have and I have a book on everything thanks to the p.o. Where are you located? We are currently in Charlotte NC but heading up through to PA by the beginning of May. If we could hook up sometime maybe we could get you set up with any copies you need.
The thing that most people complain about is the steering and getting blown around on the road. Don't think you can do too much about a crosswind when driving a billboard down the road. I have the double shock conversion on the front and all of the Tiger Trax add-ons. The new Koni shocks have made the double shocks unnecessary. So if you need shocks that is the way to go.
The original satellite system is the Datron 3000. I removed that a couple years ago and installed a Winegard HD Traveler dish for Direct TV. Not cheap but we wanted ease of operation and high definition reception.
My generator now has 950 hours on the meter. I had a new governor and injection pump put on it about a year and a half ago. But that isn't anything that is normally going to go bad at any particular time. Just some bad luck.
The Cat 3126 is an excellent engine. Just change the oil and filters about every 10,000 miles or at least once a year and change the antifreeze with extended life antifreeze every three years. Make sure the zerk fitting on the engine water pump gets a couple pumps with the grease gun at each service. You can get a bottle of the lube for the Pac Brake on Ebay very cheaply.
The transmission is best to have fluid replaced with Castrol Transynd. It has a very long life span with just filter replacements.
What color is you coach? Ours is green.
SafariFriends is a great source for information. If you can't get an answer you can usually find out who to contact to get problems resolved.
Gary
2001 Zanzibar
2001 Jeep Wrangler Toad































































--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, C Soto <on.vacation2@...> wrote:
>
> Hello!
> We just purchased our 1st Class A and have never had a diesel ( we always had Class C- gas engines). We purchased a 2001 Safari Zanzibar 3896. We were provided NO owner info such as a owners manual; no info on the CAT 330 diesel engine (except miles); nothing on how to winterize it; we have never had a diesel generator before (this one has a 7500 onan); nothing about the Allison 6-speed auto transmission; and nothing about the auto seeking satellite.
>  
> We need some help!
>  
> I read through pages of recent posts and I see info about the "mode" for the allison but was left confused on when you DO use "mode".
>  
> From other previous posts, it seems that obtaining documentation may prove to be quite difficult. I did call Monaco and the person answering the phone took down my request (that I was looking for any documentation related to my "new" rig) but she was only able to give me a phone number and name of a company that I am quite sure went belly up a few years back (the area code changed in 2006- she gave me the old area code but said that the records are updated annually, and now a travel trailer company is occupying that space).
>  
> Anyway- if anyone out there has any extra manuals or knows where they can be purchased at a reasonable price- please reply.
>  
> I found out from the VIN# that the year of manufacture is actually 2000. I did print out (from Monaco's website) for the latest available (2003) a Zanzibar flyer BUT our model is not listed. I presume from the 2003 specifications that the height, weight, and tanks are approximately the same...but who knows.
>  
> Final question...other than tires- what has been the problem with the 2001 Safari Zanzabars? we could only find one recall on this unit.
>  
> Please email any helpful suggestions! Thanks!
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16663 From: TheMopedWhiz Date: 4/24/2012
Subject: Re: If you are thinking Koni's
new front shocks are mounted friday and short test ride to dump the holding tanks and goto the pharmacy completed on monday
definite improvement
the old monroe shocks were easy to collapse, the new Konis take a lot of effort to move either direction in or out


--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "fountking" <fountking@...> wrote:
>
> Just got an E-mail from them,my shocks are 6-8 Wks on back order.
> >>>> Bob K 96 Serengeti Velvet Ride
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16666 From: rpalominod90@yahoo.com Date: 4/25/2012
Subject: Re: If you are thinking Koni's
Did you install these on the velvet ride?
If so has anyone installed the Koni  recommended shocks on a leaf sprung yet.
I'm looking at getting some before summer as well as adding the Safe-T-Steer as well.

Thanks
Rico
1996 Sahara 250CAT.


Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless


-----Original message-----
From: TheMopedWhiz <themopedwhiz@...>
To:
Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
Sent:
Wed, Apr 25, 2012 06:44:43 GMT+00:00
Subject:
[Safarifriends] Re: If you are thinking Koni's

 

new front shocks are mounted friday and short test ride to dump the holding tanks and goto the pharmacy completed on monday
definite improvement
the old monroe shocks were easy to collapse, the new Konis take a lot of effort to move either direction in or out

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "fountking" <fountking@...> wrote:
>
> Just got an E-mail from them,my shocks are 6-8 Wks on back order.
> >>>> Bob K 96 Serengeti Velvet Ride
>

Group: Safarifriends Message: 16667 From: the elder Date: 4/25/2012
Subject: Re: If you are thinking Koni's
and has anyone installed them on a magnum R4R chassis
another thanx,
Brett
2000 Renegade 300 Cat

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "rpalominod90@..." <rpalominod90@...> wrote:
>
> Did you install these on the velvet ride?
> If so has anyone installed the Koni recommended shocks on a leaf sprung
> yet.
> I'm looking at getting some before summer as well as adding the Safe-T-Steer
> as well.
>
> Thanks
> Rico
> 1996 Sahara 250CAT.
>
>
> Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless
>
> -----Original message-----
> From: TheMopedWhiz <themopedwhiz@...>
> To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2012 06:44:43 GMT+00:00
> Subject: [Safarifriends] Re: If you are thinking Koni's
>
> new front shocks are mounted friday and short test ride to dump the holding
> tanks and goto the pharmacy completed on monday
> definite improvement
> the old monroe shocks were easy to collapse, the new Konis take a lot of
> effort to move either direction in or out
>
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "fountking" <fountking@> wrote:
> >
> > Just got an E-mail from them,my shocks are 6-8 Wks on back order.
> > >>>> Bob K 96 Serengeti Velvet Ride
> >
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16668 From: the elder Date: 4/25/2012
Subject: Re: If you are thinking Koni's
and has anyone installed them on a magnum R4R chassis
another thanx,
Brett
2000 Renegade 300 Cat

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "rpalominod90@..." <rpalominod90@...> wrote:
>
> Did you install these on the velvet ride?
> If so has anyone installed the Koni recommended shocks on a leaf sprung
> yet.
> I'm looking at getting some before summer as well as adding the Safe-T-Steer
> as well.
>
> Thanks
> Rico
> 1996 Sahara 250CAT.
>
>
> Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless
>
> -----Original message-----
> From: TheMopedWhiz <themopedwhiz@...>
> To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2012 06:44:43 GMT+00:00
> Subject: [Safarifriends] Re: If you are thinking Koni's
>
> new front shocks are mounted friday and short test ride to dump the holding
> tanks and goto the pharmacy completed on monday
> definite improvement
> the old monroe shocks were easy to collapse, the new Konis take a lot of
> effort to move either direction in or out
>
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "fountking" <fountking@> wrote:
> >
> > Just got an E-mail from them,my shocks are 6-8 Wks on back order.
> > >>>> Bob K 96 Serengeti Velvet Ride
> >
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16669 From: the elder Date: 4/25/2012
Subject: Re: If you are thinking Koni's
and has anyone installed them on a magnum R4R chassis
another thanx,
Brett
2000 Renegade 300 Cat

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "rpalominod90@..." <rpalominod90@...> wrote:
>
> Did you install these on the velvet ride?
> If so has anyone installed the Koni recommended shocks on a leaf sprung
> yet.
> I'm looking at getting some before summer as well as adding the Safe-T-Steer
> as well.
>
> Thanks
> Rico
> 1996 Sahara 250CAT.
>
>
> Connected by DROID on Verizon Wireless
>
> -----Original message-----
> From: TheMopedWhiz <themopedwhiz@...>
> To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
> Sent: Wed, Apr 25, 2012 06:44:43 GMT+00:00
> Subject: [Safarifriends] Re: If you are thinking Koni's
>
> new front shocks are mounted friday and short test ride to dump the holding
> tanks and goto the pharmacy completed on monday
> definite improvement
> the old monroe shocks were easy to collapse, the new Konis take a lot of
> effort to move either direction in or out
>
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "fountking" <fountking@> wrote:
> >
> > Just got an E-mail from them,my shocks are 6-8 Wks on back order.
> > >>>> Bob K 96 Serengeti Velvet Ride
> >
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 16670 From: John Clevenger Date: 4/25/2012
Subject: Re: If you are thinking Koni's

Rico,

 

I install both three years ago and outstanding improvements! No more side way movement when a big rig goes by and big improvement on the ride! The Safe-T-Steer is a must for me because of the improvements and sate-t of a front blowout! If you have never seen one they are big! Get the big blue one just bolts on! I installed both in one day!

 

Rico what part of the states are you? I live outside of Ft Worth; we look like we have the same rig. JohnC

 

96 Safari Sahara 3540 250 Cat

2005 TJ/Honda

(O) I I I I I I I (O)

 

From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of rpalominod90@...
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2012 9:36 AM
To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] Re: If you are thinking Koni's

 

 

Did you install these on the velvet ride?
If so has anyone installed the Koni  recommended shocks on a leaf sprung yet.
I'm looking at getting some before summer as well as adding the Safe-T-Steer as well.

Thanks
Rico
1996 Sahara 250CAT.


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From: TheMopedWhiz <themopedwhiz@...>
To:
Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
Sent:
Wed, Apr 25, 2012 06:44:43 GMT+00:00
Subject:
[Safarifriends] Re: If you are thinking Koni's

 

new front shocks are mounted friday and short test ride to dump the holding tanks and goto the pharmacy completed on monday
definite improvement
the old monroe shocks were easy to collapse, the new Konis take a lot of effort to move either direction in or out

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "fountking" <fountking@...> wrote:
>
> Just got an E-mail from them,my shocks are 6-8 Wks on back order.
> >>>> Bob K 96 Serengeti Velvet Ride
>