I checked my 99 Sahara 3506 and the bolts are short and barely protrude beyond the nut. I am thinking that whatever shift a chassis was made on, occasionally they had the wrong bolt box.
-=Dale=-
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On Sun, 6/22/14, TD sdjhtm@... [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] Fwd: Clearance Issues on Safari Velvet Ride Suspension
To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, June 22, 2014, 9:42 AM
Just curious, do the
four bolts on each side stick out just as much as on mine,
or is the bolt facing the other way (nut on the inside of
the frame rail)? FYI, PMW also
carries the Koni shocks and the stabilizer link kits for
your coach, in case you need those items in the
furture.
John
'95 Safari Serengeti
38ft, 300 Cummins 8.3CTA, Allison
6spd.
On Sun,
Jun 22, 2014 at 10:58 AM, 'nanandpete@...'
nanandpete@...
[Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
I am velvet ride.
They may have spread the assembly out on the 99s as there
appears to be a good inch clearance on both sides. Thanks
for the Pioneer info.
From: "TD sdjhtm@...
[Safarifriends]" <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com>
To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 3:51:51
PM
Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] Fwd:
Clearance Issues on Safari Velvet Ride Suspension
I am not familliar with the type of
suspension that you coach has, so this may not apply. Does
you coach have the Velvet Ride/Torsilastic suspension? As
shown in the pictures, the bolts would be sticking out of
the frame rail pointing outward towards the sides of the
coach.
Tiger Traks are a suspension upgrade (not
a replacement) for Safari coaches that have Velvet Ride
Suspension. You can find more information on this upgrade in
the archives of this forum and on the website of the maker
of this product. The company is called Pioneer Metal Works
(PMW). Do a google search.
Safe Travels,John
'95 Safari Serengeti 38ft, 300 Cummins
8.3CTA, Allison
6spd.
On Sat, Jun 21, 2014 at
5:44 PM, 'nanandpete@...'
nanandpete@...
[Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com>
wrote:
I am having trouble
locating the errant bolts. on my 99 sahara. Are they
sticking out toward the edge of the coach from the frame? I
found a couple. but there appears to be plenty of clearance
on both sides. Next question, what does the Tiger Trak
suspension replace?
From: "TD sdjhtm@...
[Safarifriends]" <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com>
To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2014 1:30:44
PM
Subject: [Safarifriends] Fwd:
Clearance Issues on Safari Velvet Ride Suspension [14
Attachments]
Update:Well, I finally have a
moment to update everyone on the suspension clearance issues
that I had and resolved. We went on a small trip (220
miles), that involved several very poor bridge transitions
and other imperfections in the road, to test the suspension.
And....the result is AMAZING!!! The coach is as smooth as
can be and truly lives up to the Velvet Ride name. There is
now plenty of suspension travel and I think I managed to
bottom it out once (had to really work at it), and it was
actually smooth and pleasant. I also had the Tiger Trak
Suspension upgrade installed, and have to say that even
though it is a bit over priced, it is well worth every
penny. The coach handles better, especially in the wind and
road imperfections. It is in general more stable on the
road, not that I had issues with handling before. I just
wanted an extra safety upgrade and am very glad that I did.
This is a pleasure to drive and is pretty much as smooth as
my old '82 Cadillac.
I want to reiterate again to anyone that is having ride
quality issues with their Magnum Velvet Ride Suspensions,
check out my right up and photos of the issues I had, and
check on your own coach, to see if you have a similar
problem. It is an easy fix!!!
Safe travels,John
'95 Safari
Serengeti 38ft, 300 Cummins 8.3CTA, Allison
6spd.
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From: TD <sdjhtm@...>
Date: Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 3:29 PM
Subject:
Clearance Issues on Safari Velvet Ride Suspension
To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
NOTE TO ALL VELVET RIDE SAFARIS OF THIS VINTAGE!!!
Every one that is
having issues with ride and perceived bottoming out (with a
loud bang at times), should look at
these photos and check their own units out!!!
I was having ride
issues with my '95 Safari Serengeti 38' 300 Cummins
8.3CTA Allison 6spd.
Besides poor ride quality, I was having severe bottoming
out issues.
Any poor bridge transition or heaves on road would cause it
to nose dive
a bit and bottom out with a loud harsh and at times painful
BANG!
Thanks to Brett with his knowledge and wisdom, he convinced
me to look
very thoroughly for clearance issues, and what you see in
the photos is
what I, by chance, discovered. Any Safari owners with
Magnum Chassis and Velvet Ride
Suspension SHOULD check for this as a precaution, but
especially if you
are having similar issues like I have been
experiencing. To remedy this clearance issue, I cut off the
excess bolt that was protruding past the nut, an easy fix.
I've also attached pictures of the
repair. Please note:make sure that the bolts are
very tight
before the ends are cut off!
It is worth noting that by
records
of PO, this "ghost" issue has been chased for a
loooong time, and more
likely was their right from the start (my opinion), and by
the looks of
how tight things are in that area this could very well be a
hidden
common issue. I hope this will help any and all Safari
owners with the
Velvet Ride Suspension... A few more
thoughts...-My ride height is
correct.-Because of this issue, I only had 2
inches of downward suspension travel! That sure as heck will
give you a crappy ride.
-With out knowing what your looking for, this problem
is very easy to miss, very unnoticeable, especially
considering that when shops look over the suspension, the
rigs are lifted, which extends the suspension and tends to
hide the problem even more. I myself was convinced that it
was bottoming out against the shocks! One would not even
expect or think that two small bolts protruding discreetly
could cause such a problem. When a shop gets a complaint
of bottoming out, the likely culprit is the
shocks, if the problem doesn't get resolved, it is all
to easy to blame
the Torsilastic suspension. Also, I
would like to put a request out to some of our Safari
owners,
especially with the same or similar vintage, to check out
their suspensions to see how much clearance they have
and if there is any similar issues, and/or if the bolts are
facing the
other way on newer units, thus correcting the problem.
Please, it will only
take a few minutes, humor me and check it out and post the
results, take pictures if you can. If you do look, please
note which way the bolts are facing, I'm curious if SMC
resolved the issue just by installing the bolts the other
way around.
John
'95 Safari
Serengeti 38ft, 300 Cummins 8.3CTA, Allison 6spd
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