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Group: Safarifriends Message: 41287 From: Dan J Date: 4/8/2019
Subject: Re: 1998 safari sarangeti 37ft new shocks
Group: Safarifriends Message: 41372 From: akelphman Date: 4/22/2019
Subject: 1998 safari sarengeti right height
Group: Safarifriends Message: 41380 From: TD Date: 4/22/2019
Subject: Re: 1998 safari sarengeti right height
Group: Safarifriends Message: 41383 From: Robert Lewis Date: 4/23/2019
Subject: Re: 1998 safari sarengeti right height
Group: Safarifriends Message: 41397 From: Gary Smith Date: 4/23/2019
Subject: Re: 1998 safari sarengeti right height
Group: Safarifriends Message: 41407 From: Lois Lopez Date: 4/23/2019
Subject: Re: 1998 safari sarengeti right height
Group: Safarifriends Message: 41419 From: akelphman Date: 4/24/2019
Subject: Re: 1998 safari sarengeti right height
Group: Safarifriends Message: 41421 From: TD Date: 4/24/2019
Subject: Re: 1998 safari sarengeti right height
Group: Safarifriends Message: 41440 From: kathy turner Date: 4/27/2019
Subject: Re: (direct email from John) Re: 1998 Safari Sarengeti
Group: Safarifriends Message: 41444 From: lotosrggp1 Date: 4/28/2019
Subject: Suspension
Group: Safarifriends Message: 41529 From: waspph6 Date: 5/9/2019
Subject: 94 Serengeti ride height question
Group: Safarifriends Message: 41533 From: nanandpete@q.com Date: 5/9/2019
Subject: Re: 94 Serengeti ride height question
Group: Safarifriends Message: 41542 From: Jerame Trunnell Date: 5/9/2019
Subject: Re: 94 Serengeti ride height question
Group: Safarifriends Message: 41544 From: TD Date: 5/9/2019
Subject: Re: 94 Serengeti ride height question
Group: Safarifriends Message: 41555 From: mel96safari Date: 5/10/2019
Subject: Re: 94 Serengeti ride height question
Group: Safarifriends Message: 41592 From: wolfe102001 Date: 5/13/2019
Subject: Re: Axle ratings and weight
Group: Safarifriends Message: 41596 From: chvet73 Date: 5/14/2019
Subject: Koni Schocks
Group: Safarifriends Message: 41597 From: waspph6 Date: 5/14/2019
Subject: Re: Koni Schocks
Group: Safarifriends Message: 41598 From: TD Date: 5/14/2019
Subject: Re: Koni Schocks
Group: Safarifriends Message: 41600 From: Rick Willson Date: 5/14/2019
Subject: Re: Koni Schocks
Group: Safarifriends Message: 41675 From: chvet73 Date: 5/20/2019
Subject: Re: Koni Schocks
Group: Safarifriends Message: 41676 From: TD Date: 5/20/2019
Subject: Re: Koni Schocks
Group: Safarifriends Message: 41725 From: TJAMES BLAIR Date: 5/26/2019
Subject: Re: Koni Schocks
Group: Safarifriends Message: 41731 From: Gary Smith Date: 5/26/2019
Subject: Re: Koni Schocks
Group: Safarifriends Message: 41736 From: TJAMES BLAIR Date: 5/26/2019
Subject: Re: Koni Schocks
Group: Safarifriends Message: 41738 From: mel96safari Date: 5/27/2019
Subject: Leaf springs (was: Koni Schocks)
Group: Safarifriends Message: 41742 From: m_shumack Date: 5/28/2019
Subject: Re: Leaf springs (was: Koni Schocks)
Group: Safarifriends Message: 41768 From: TD Date: 6/3/2019
Subject: Re: Konis for 97 3044 Sahara, leaf springs
Group: Safarifriends Message: 41769 From: Gary Smith Date: 6/4/2019
Subject: Re: Konis for 97 3044 Sahara, leaf springs
Group: Safarifriends Message: 41771 From: Al Glick Date: 6/4/2019
Subject: Re: Konis for 97 3044 Sahara, leaf springs
Group: Safarifriends Message: 42193 From: fountking Date: 7/19/2019
Subject: Re: Steering box
Group: Safarifriends Message: 42196 From: W Taylor Hudson Date: 7/19/2019
Subject: Re: Steering box
Group: Safarifriends Message: 42250 From: John Rowin Date: 7/22/2019
Subject: Re: Bubba's are everywhere (was: Detent Pin on Cat 3126 belt tension
Group: Safarifriends Message: 42251 From: bilmac36 Date: 7/22/2019
Subject: Re: Bubba's are everywhere (was: Detent Pin on Cat 3126 belt tension
Group: Safarifriends Message: 42254 From: mel96safari Date: 7/22/2019
Subject: Disposable $$ (was:Bubba's are everywhere (was: Detent Pin on Cat 31
Group: Safarifriends Message: 42255 From: John Rowin Date: 7/22/2019
Subject: Re: Disposable $$ (was:Bubba's are everywhere (was: Detent Pin on Ca
Group: Safarifriends Message: 42345 From: robertfury@gmail.com Date: 7/28/2019
Subject: 1994 Continental Komi part #
Group: Safarifriends Message: 42355 From: TD Date: 7/29/2019
Subject: Re: 1994 Continental Komi part #
Group: Safarifriends Message: 42357 From: John Rowin Date: 7/29/2019
Subject: Re: 1994 Continental Komi part #
Group: Safarifriends Message: 42359 From: bilmac36 . Date: 7/29/2019
Subject: Re: 1994 Continental Komi part #
Group: Safarifriends Message: 42360 From: John Rowin Date: 7/29/2019
Subject: Re: 1994 Continental Komi part #
Group: Safarifriends Message: 42362 From: bilmac36 . Date: 7/29/2019
Subject: Re: 1994 Continental Komi part #
Group: Safarifriends Message: 42363 From: John Rowin Date: 7/29/2019
Subject: Re: 1994 Continental Komi part #
Group: Safarifriends Message: 42364 From: bilmac36 Date: 7/29/2019
Subject: Re: 1994 Continental Komi part #
Group: Safarifriends Message: 42365 From: bilmac36 Date: 7/29/2019
Subject: Re: 1994 Continental Komi part #
Group: Safarifriends Message: 42366 From: TD Date: 7/29/2019
Subject: Re: 1994 Continental Komi part #
Group: Safarifriends Message: 42367 From: TD Date: 7/29/2019
Subject: Re: 1994 Continental Komi part #
Group: Safarifriends Message: 42368 From: TD Date: 7/29/2019
Subject: Re: 1994 Continental Komi part #
Group: Safarifriends Message: 42373 From: gregory snell Date: 7/29/2019
Subject: Re: 1994 Continental Komi part #
Group: Safarifriends Message: 42374 From: TD Date: 7/29/2019
Subject: Re: 1994 Continental Komi part #



Group: Safarifriends Message: 41287 From: Dan J Date: 4/8/2019
Subject: Re: 1998 safari sarangeti 37ft new shocks
Another Alaskan with Safari

Dan
30 ft Sahara
3136, 6speed Allison

On Mon, Apr 8, 2019, 18:41 bawolfe10@... [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Be sure to also have them check RIDE HEIGHT. Have seen some where ride height was low enough that shocks are crushed on compression (they were never designed to take the full weight of a coach when hitting a large bump).

Files section has good info on checking this.
Group: Safarifriends Message: 41372 From: akelphman Date: 4/22/2019
Subject: 1998 safari sarengeti right height

hello all.


first of all i have to thank all of you that have responded to my other posts.   I bought my sarengeti about 2 months ago and been getting ready for a big road trip and been taking care of lots of deffered maintence that hte previous owner had ignored for the last decade.   the help I have recieved here has been a life saver.  


I turely appreciate all your help and taking the time to respond to my posts.  


at the suggestion of several people here I investigated my current ride height as I was in the process of getting the shocks and brakes replaced.   the shop I took it too wasn't at all familiar with a velvet ride suspension but was willing to take a look at it.   I provided them the info that I found here on measuring and adjusting the ride height.   sadly it was too early to get the water tank all filled up and the fuel tank was only about 1/2 full.   but i figured at least I could get in the ball park.   so let give it a shot.  


the shop foreman called me back and told me that the rear was 3 inches low and the front was 2 inches low.  there was lots of shims to remove and based on the one shim = 1/4 inch formula he seemed confident that he could get it to where it needed to be.   he  did have issues with the bolts.  the threads were too torn up and rusty to sinch all the way down.  he ended up buying some new hardware.  I drove it this weekend and the difference was night and day.  much more stable.  very little porpoising.  I felt much more comfortable driving it.  


here is my question.   I don't know how many shims are left but I don't think there is a lot.   should I be concerned?   should I take other steps to preserve the suspension?   I am reasonably sure that the previous owner never even knew what the ride height was let alone adjust it...  does running it that low cause any other damage I should be concerned about?   is it realistic to drop that far in 9 years?   the coach only has about 43k miles on it.   I think he put less than 8000 on it in the 9 years he owned it.   


I am not sure what else I should be doing with the suspension at this point.  I have seen posts about air bags and the "tiger track" after market add ons.  maybe I am just worrying too much and I should just drive it and see how it goes...   ?   




on a different note...   can anyone point me in the right direction to find the flasher unit...?   I am replacing my 1157 bulbs with LEDs and I understand that you have to replace the flasher along with them?



dalton clark

1998 sarengeti 37'

Group: Safarifriends Message: 41380 From: TD Date: 4/22/2019
Subject: Re: 1998 safari sarengeti right height
Dalton,

Pioneer Metal Works, and Henderson Line-up cells the supplemental air
bags for the VelvetRide suspensions. Those airbags do take a good
amount of stress off of the drive-train, and it also gives a smoother
ride (as long as you don't put too much air pressure into the bags
The first is a 6 air bag kit, and the latter provides an 8 airbag
kit. Also, some member have fabricated their own brackets and
installed their own. Fellow member Bob Fountking is one of those who
installed/fabricated his own airbags. There should be photos in the
files section.

As for the flasher, it is unlikely that it is the load sensing type,
so it should work fine without needing replacement. It is the heavy
duty version of the common automotive flasher unit.

John
'95 Safari Serengeti 38ft, Cummins C8.3-300, Allison
6spd.

On 4/22/19, akelphman@... [Safarifriends]
<Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> hello all.
>
>
> first of all i have to thank all of you that have responded to my other
> posts. I bought my sarengeti about 2 months ago and been getting ready for
> a big road trip and been taking care of lots of deffered maintence that hte
> previous owner had ignored for the last decade. the help I have recieved
> here has been a life saver.
>
>
> I turely appreciate all your help and taking the time to respond to my
> posts.
>
>
> at the suggestion of several people here I investigated my current ride
> height as I was in the process of getting the shocks and brakes replaced.
> the shop I took it too wasn't at all familiar with a velvet ride suspension
> but was willing to take a look at it. I provided them the info that I
> found here on measuring and adjusting the ride height. sadly it was too
> early to get the water tank all filled up and the fuel tank was only about
> 1/2 full. but i figured at least I could get in the ball park. so let
> give it a shot.
>
>
> the shop foreman called me back and told me that the rear was 3 inches low
> and the front was 2 inches low. there was lots of shims to remove and based
> on the one shim = 1/4 inch formula he seemed confident that he could get it
> to where it needed to be. he did have issues with the bolts. the threads
> were too torn up and rusty to sinch all the way down. he ended up buying
> some new hardware. I drove it this weekend and the difference was night and
> day. much more stable. very little porpoising. I felt much more
> comfortable driving it.
>
>
> here is my question. I don't know how many shims are left but I don't
> think there is a lot. should I be concerned? should I take other steps
> to preserve the suspension? I am reasonably sure that the previous owner
> never even knew what the ride height was let alone adjust it... does
> running it that low cause any other damage I should be concerned about? is
> it realistic to drop that far in 9 years? the coach only has about 43k
> miles on it. I think he put less than 8000 on it in the 9 years he owned
> it.
>
>
> I am not sure what else I should be doing with the suspension at this
> point. I have seen posts about air bags and the "tiger track" after market
> add ons. maybe I am just worrying too much and I should just drive it and
> see how it goes... ?
>
>
>
>
>
>
> on a different note... can anyone point me in the right direction to find
> the flasher unit...? I am replacing my 1157 bulbs with LEDs and I
> understand that you have to replace the flasher along with them?
>
>
>
>
> dalton clark
> 1998 sarengeti 37'
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 41383 From: Robert Lewis Date: 4/23/2019
Subject: Re: 1998 safari sarengeti right height

Hi Dalton

I changed out all my lights, clearance, tail lights. turn signals, markers for LED except for the headlights and didn't change my flasher, everything worked without problems.

Robert and Bev Lewis
2000 Continental
3126B Cat, 330hp
MD3060 Allison


On April 22, 2019 5:27:01 PM "akelphman@... [Safarifriends]" <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

hello all.


first of all i have to thank all of you that have responded to my other posts.   I bought my sarengeti about 2 months ago and been getting ready for a big road trip and been taking care of lots of deffered maintence that hte previous owner had ignored for the last decade.   the help I have recieved here has been a life saver.  


I turely appreciate all your help and taking the time to respond to my posts.  


at the suggestion of several people here I investigated my current ride height as I was in the process of getting the shocks and brakes replaced.   the shop I took it too wasn't at all familiar with a velvet ride suspension but was willing to take a look at it.   I provided them the info that I found here on measuring and adjusting the ride height.   sadly it was too early to get the water tank all filled up and the fuel tank was only about 1/2 full.   but i figured at least I could get in the ball park.   so let give it a shot.  


the shop foreman called me back and told me that the rear was 3 inches low and the front was 2 inches low.  there was lots of shims to remove and based on the one shim = 1/4 inch formula he seemed confident that he could get it to where it needed to be.   he  did have issues with the bolts.  the threads were too torn up and rusty to sinch all the way down.  he ended up buying some new hardware.  I drove it this weekend and the difference was night and day.  much more stable.  very little porpoising.  I felt much more comfortable driving it.  


here is my question.   I don't know how many shims are left but I don't think there is a lot.   should I be concerned?   should I take other steps to preserve the suspension?   I am reasonably sure that the previous owner never even knew what the ride height was let alone adjust it...  does running it that low cause any other damage I should be concerned about?   is it realistic to drop that far in 9 years?   the coach only has about 43k miles on it.   I think he put less than 8000 on it in the 9 years he owned it.   


I am not sure what else I should be doing with the suspension at this point.  I have seen posts about air bags and the "tiger track" after market add ons.  maybe I am just worrying too much and I should just drive it and see how it goes...   ?   




on a different note...   can anyone point me in the right direction to find the flasher unit...?   I am replacing my 1157 bulbs with LEDs and I understand that you have to replace the flasher along with them?



dalton clark

1998 sarengeti 37'


Group: Safarifriends Message: 41397 From: Gary Smith Date: 4/23/2019
Subject: Re: 1998 safari sarengeti right height
Dalton,
In the future, please start a new topic when you are asking about something new.  Lighting is not suspension.  No one looking for lighting would expect to find it in a discussion about ride height.  Also, now that you have your ride height (hopefully) correct, be sure you got it aligned.  Changes in the suspension geometry impact alignment.  Also make sure you got the shims that were removed from the shop.  You may need them in the future.  Based on the numbers you posted you should have around 84 loose shims to store and pass on to the next owner.  

Gary
'98 Sahara 3006 300CAT

On Tue, Apr 23, 2019 at 11:59 AM Robert Lewis robert.lewis.tl@... [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 


Hi Dalton

I changed out all my lights, clearance, tail lights. turn signals, markers for LED except for the headlights and didn't change my flasher, everything worked without problems.

Robert and Bev Lewis
2000 Continental
3126B Cat, 330hp
MD3060 Allison


On April 22, 2019 5:27:01 PM "akelphman@... [Safarifriends]" <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

hello all.


first of all i have to thank all of you that have responded to my other posts.   I bought my sarengeti about 2 months ago and been getting ready for a big road trip and been taking care of lots of deffered maintence that hte previous owner had ignored for the last decade.   the help I have recieved here has been a life saver.  


I turely appreciate all your help and taking the time to respond to my posts.  


at the suggestion of several people here I investigated my current ride height as I was in the process of getting the shocks and brakes replaced.   the shop I took it too wasn't at all familiar with a velvet ride suspension but was willing to take a look at it.   I provided them the info that I found here on measuring and adjusting the ride height.   sadly it was too early to get the water tank all filled up and the fuel tank was only about 1/2 full.   but i figured at least I could get in the ball park.   so let give it a shot.  


the shop foreman called me back and told me that the rear was 3 inches low and the front was 2 inches low.  there was lots of shims to remove and based on the one shim = 1/4 inch formula he seemed confident that he could get it to where it needed to be.   he  did have issues with the bolts.  the threads were too torn up and rusty to sinch all the way down.  he ended up buying some new hardware.  I drove it this weekend and the difference was night and day.  much more stable.  very little porpoising.  I felt much more comfortable driving it.  


here is my question.   I don't know how many shims are left but I don't think there is a lot.   should I be concerned?   should I take other steps to preserve the suspension?   I am reasonably sure that the previous owner never even knew what the ride height was let alone adjust it...  does running it that low cause any other damage I should be concerned about?   is it realistic to drop that far in 9 years?   the coach only has about 43k miles on it.   I think he put less than 8000 on it in the 9 years he owned it.   


I am not sure what else I should be doing with the suspension at this point.  I have seen posts about air bags and the "tiger track" after market add ons.  maybe I am just worrying too much and I should just drive it and see how it goes...   ?   




on a different note...   can anyone point me in the right direction to find the flasher unit...?   I am replacing my 1157 bulbs with LEDs and I understand that you have to replace the flasher along with them?



dalton clark

1998 sarengeti 37'




--
Gary Smith
Group: Safarifriends Message: 41407 From: Lois Lopez Date: 4/23/2019
Subject: Re: 1998 safari sarengeti right height
Hi Dalton!  My two cents:  We live in Washington, so took our 2001 Serengeti to Henderson Lineup in Grants Pass, Oregon.  They are very familiar with Safari’s, and have even fabricated suspension related parts to help our unique coaches.  Our coach had been work on years before, but it wasn’t until we took it on a short trip that we realized how very hard it was to handle.  So, we found them on the Internet and I read ALL of their reviews.  They worked magic on our unit, and added the air bag system.  Then, later, Darryl installed the “Safe-T-Plus” steering stabilizer.  He was able to do that himself, and we got the unit from Amazon (free shipping).  It looks like a shock absorber.  After driving the motorhome for a few short trips for about 18 months, adding the Safe-T-Plus even improved the driving even more!  Darryl likes it as well as the air bags.  The bottom line is that we feel much much safer driving in places like I-10 (what a horrible highway through Texas and Louisiana!).  And Darryl is a former professional long-haul truck driver, so he does know what it’s like to drive a “big rig.”

In other words, Dalton, if you have the opportunity and can find one of the few “experts” in Safari suspension systems, please seek them out.  It’s made a UUUGGGE difference for us!  I’m not afraid to drive our 42 footer anymore (with a toad).

Safe travels, and have fun!
Lois & Darryl Lopez
’01 Serengeti, 350 Cummins, 6-spd Alllison, Velvet Glide

On Apr 22, 2019, at 5:26 PM, akelphman@... [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


hello all.


first of all i have to thank all of you that have responded to my other posts.   I bought my sarengeti about 2 months ago and been getting ready for a big road trip and been taking care of lots of deffered maintence that hte previous owner had ignored for the last decade.   the help I have recieved here has been a life saver.  


I turely appreciate all your help and taking the time to respond to my posts.  


at the suggestion of several people here I investigated my current ride height as I was in the process of getting the shocks and brakes replaced.   the shop I took it too wasn't at all familiar with a velvet ride suspension but was willing to take a look at it.   I provided them the info that I found here on measuring and adjusting the ride height.   sadly it was too early to get the water tank all filled up and the fuel tank was only about 1/2 full.   but i figured at least I could get in the ball park.   so let give it a shot.  


the shop foreman called me back and told me that the rear was 3 inches low and the front was 2 inches low.  there was lots of shims to remove and based on the one shim = 1/4 inch formula he seemed confident that he could get it to where it needed to be.   he  did have issues with the bolts.  the threads were too torn up and rusty to sinch all the way down.  he ended up buying some new hardware.  I drove it this weekend and the difference was night and day.  much more stable.  very little porpoising.  I felt much more comfortable driving it.  


here is my question.   I don't know how many shims are left but I don't think there is a lot.   should I be concerned?   should I take other steps to preserve the suspension?   I am reasonably sure that the previous owner never even knew what the ride height was let alone adjust it...  does running it that low cause any other damage I should be concerned about?   is it realistic to drop that far in 9 years?   the coach only has about 43k miles on it.   I think he put less than 8000 on it in the 9 years he owned it.   


I am not sure what else I should be doing with the suspension at this point.  I have seen posts about air bags and the "tiger track" after market add ons.  maybe I am just worrying too much and I should just drive it and see how it goes...   ?   




on a different note...   can anyone point me in the right direction to find the flasher unit...?   I am replacing my 1157 bulbs with LEDs and I understand that you have to replace the flasher along with them?



dalton clark

1998 sarengeti 37'



Group: Safarifriends Message: 41419 From: akelphman Date: 4/24/2019
Subject: Re: 1998 safari sarengeti right height
john,

one again I very much appreciate your response.   based on your advice this is my plan.  

I have looked around locally and cant find anyone who can do the weight for each corner.   we don't have a cat scales here (anchorage ak) so I am being told that I can to to my local dump transfer station and they might be able to weigh each axle for a fee.   getting that is my first priority.  

my coach has what appears to be semi trailer tires with no tread other than tread well.   I have no idea if I am describing this correctly...   i don't have any experience with this size tire.  what I mean is that it has the deep channels that give your basic tread pattern but no siping or sub tread other than that.   maybe like recaps??   not sure...    I assume that these might be acceptable on the rear but seems unlikely they were intended to be in the front.  I am taking it to a local big truck tire dealer and asking their opinion of the tire condition and most likely replacing the fronts regardless.  hopefully they can align it as well.  if not I will get it aligned somewhere and ask them to inspect the overall steering linkage.


we are going to make several short trips over the next few weekends and see how it drives, with the longest being about 800 miles round trip.  hopefully this will give me a chance to get accustomed to driving this coach and asses how well it rides.  I have been driving my 34ft class c for 20+ years usually towing a 20-30 ft trailer, all over Alaska and up and down the alcan a few times,  and am pretty comfortable with big package and all the challenges that brings...   but driving this so far has been a totally different experience.   it was honestly scary (i don't scare easily) the first few times I drove it at highway speed, but that was before getting the tire pressure at least close and the ride height adjusted, and the shocks replaced.  Now its much much better but still very different from what I am used to.  hopefully over the next few weekends I will get more comfortable with it. 

depending on how that goes...   we will be in Spokane the first week of June.  if it is a total handfull I will consider getting the tiger tracs installed while I am there before we head all the way to Florida and back.   at the end of our trip I will evaluate the need for the air bags, and go from there.  it is our intention to keep this coach for many years to come.   it only has 43k miles on it and if we can get the little bugs worked out...   I see no reason we couldn't use this for the next 8-10 years quite comfortably.   provided the wearable items continue to be sourceable...

any thoughts?

dalton
98 sarengeti 37ft
Group: Safarifriends Message: 41421 From: TD Date: 4/24/2019
Subject: Re: 1998 safari sarengeti right height
Dalton,

If I understand your tire description correctly, it sounds like you
have steer axle or combination steer and drive axle tires on your
coach. Unless you plan to go off roading on your coach, you really
don't need anything more aggressive than what you are describing.
More importantly, check the dates codes on your tires. If they are
more than 8 years old, they should be replaced. You can tell the date
by the DOT code/number stamped on the side of the tire. The last group
of four digits are your date code. The first two digits stand for the
week of the year they were made, and the second two are the year they
were made. Example: 0314, would be 3rd week of 2014. Generally, if the
tires are more than 8 years old, they should be replaced.

I will send you a PM with my info.

John
'95 Safari Serengeti 38ft, Cummins C8.3-300, Allison
6spd.

On 4/24/19, akelphman@... [Safarifriends]
<Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> john,
>
> one again I very much appreciate your response. based on your advice this
> is my plan.
>
>
> I have looked around locally and cant find anyone who can do the weight for
> each corner. we don't have a cat scales here (anchorage ak) so I am being
> told that I can to to my local dump transfer station and they might be able
> to weigh each axle for a fee. getting that is my first priority.
>
>
> my coach has what appears to be semi trailer tires with no tread other than
> tread well. I have no idea if I am describing this correctly... i don't
> have any experience with this size tire. what I mean is that it has the
> deep channels that give your basic tread pattern but no siping or sub tread
> other than that. maybe like recaps?? not sure... I assume that these
> might be acceptable on the rear but seems unlikely they were intended to be
> in the front. I am taking it to a local big truck tire dealer and asking
> their opinion of the tire condition and most likely replacing the fronts
> regardless. hopefully they can align it as well. if not I will get it
> aligned somewhere and ask them to inspect the overall steering linkage.
>
>
>
>
> we are going to make several short trips over the next few weekends and see
> how it drives, with the longest being about 800 miles round trip. hopefully
> this will give me a chance to get accustomed to driving this coach and asses
> how well it rides. I have been driving my 34ft class c for 20+ years
> usually towing a 20-30 ft trailer, all over Alaska and up and down the alcan
> a few times, and am pretty comfortable with big package and all the
> challenges that brings... but driving this so far has been a totally
> different experience. it was honestly scary (i don't scare easily) the
> first few times I drove it at highway speed, but that was before getting the
> tire pressure at least close and the ride height adjusted, and the shocks
> replaced. Now its much much better but still very different from what I am
> used to. hopefully over the next few weekends I will get more comfortable
> with it.
>
>
> depending on how that goes... we will be in Spokane the first week of
> June. if it is a total handfull I will consider getting the tiger tracs
> installed while I am there before we head all the way to Florida and back.
> at the end of our trip I will evaluate the need for the air bags, and go
> from there. it is our intention to keep this coach for many years to come.
> it only has 43k miles on it and if we can get the little bugs worked out...
> I see no reason we couldn't use this for the next 8-10 years quite
> comfortably. provided the wearable items continue to be sourceable...
>
>
> any thoughts?
>
>
> dalton
> 98 sarengeti 37ft
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 41440 From: kathy turner Date: 4/27/2019
Subject: Re: (direct email from John) Re: 1998 Safari Sarengeti
we had overall weight done at a local Mill for us==no charge

didn't get each tire weights,

Check at truck fuel stations with Cat scales- don't know about individual axel's though.
And some  DOT check stations maybe can help, never hurts to ask.

This is all I can suggest, Good Luck, And Always Safe and Travels

May see ya down the road.

On Wednesday, April 24, 2019, 1:49:28 PM CDT, TD sdjhtm@... [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

[direct email]

Dalton,

Some of what you are talking about and having issues and concerns
with, is much easier to discuss over the phone. So, if you like, give
me a call. 315-272-5987 (please don't post my number on the group).
I will do my best to see if I can help with the handling issues, so
hopefully you won't have to spend big bucks. BTW, if you are
physically capable and have some basic tools, you could easily install
the tiger trax yourself, and save some money.

Regards,

John
'95 Safari Serengeti 38ft, Cummins C8.3-300, Allison
6spd.

On 4/24/19, akelphman@... [Safarifriends]
<Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> john,
>
> one again I very much appreciate your response. based on your advice this
> is my plan.
>
>
> I have looked around locally and cant find anyone who can do the weight for
> each corner. we don't have a cat scales here (anchorage ak) so I am being
> told that I can to to my local dump transfer station and they might be able
> to weigh each axle for a fee. getting that is my first priority.
>
>
> my coach has what appears to be semi trailer tires with no tread other than
> tread well. I have no idea if I am describing this correctly... i don't
> have any experience with this size tire. what I mean is that it has the
> deep channels that give your basic tread pattern but no siping or sub tread
> other than that. maybe like recaps?? not sure... I assume that these
> might be acceptable on the rear but seems unlikely they were intended to be
> in the front. I am taking it to a local big truck tire dealer and asking
> their opinion of the tire condition and most likely replacing the fronts
> regardless. hopefully they can align it as well. if not I will get it
> aligned somewhere and ask them to inspect the overall steering linkage.
>
>
>
>
> we are going to make several short trips over the next few weekends and see
> how it drives, with the longest being about 800 miles round trip. hopefully
> this will give me a chance to get accustomed to driving this coach and asses
> how well it rides. I have been driving my 34ft class c for 20+ years
> usually towing a 20-30 ft trailer, all over Alaska and up and down the alcan
> a few times, and am pretty comfortable with big package and all the
> challenges that brings... but driving this so far has been a totally
> different experience. it was honestly scary (i don't scare easily) the
> first few times I drove it at highway speed, but that was before getting the
> tire pressure at least close and the ride height adjusted, and the shocks
> replaced. Now its much much better but still very different from what I am
> used to. hopefully over the next few weekends I will get more comfortable
> with it.
>
>
> depending on how that goes... we will be in Spokane the first week of
> June. if it is a total handfull I will consider getting the tiger tracs
> installed while I am there before we head all the way to Florida and back.
> at the end of our trip I will evaluate the need for the air bags, and go
> from there. it is our intention to keep this coach for many years to come.
> it only has 43k miles on it and if we can get the little bugs worked out...
> I see no reason we couldn't use this for the next 8-10 years quite
> comfortably. provided the wearable items continue to be sourceable...
>
>
> any thoughts?
>
>
> dalton
> 98 sarengeti 37ft
>

Group: Safarifriends Message: 41444 From: lotosrggp1 Date: 4/28/2019
Subject: Suspension
Sorry, I couldn't resist.

I know there are those on the group who have boats.

This video shows active suspension on a boat, which could be related to the handling problems some vehicles have, the difference between good and bad shocks.

Nauti-Craft Marine Suspension Technology
Pttps://m.youtube.com/watch?v=kCgVumRpLro

Hope I didn't break any rules,
Tom
97 Sahara 3550 300 CAT
Group: Safarifriends Message: 41529 From: waspph6 Date: 5/9/2019
Subject: 94 Serengeti ride height question

I have been reading all i can about adjusting ride height on my coach and I am ready to get this job done and also replace the shocks to improve ride. I do have one question is the 25" measurement from the center of the wheel to the bottom of the belt line apply to all years of the velvet ride magnum chassis? My rig is a 94 and I measured the coach fully loaded and weighed and found 3 corners were all equal at 23 3/4" the drivers side front corner however was lower at 23". My plan was to remove 4 shims from 3 corners and 7 from the drivers front. Have others found this kind of variation with their coaches?    Thanks


Hal

94 Serengeti Duo door Cummins 8.3 Allison transmission 

Group: Safarifriends Message: 41533 From: nanandpete@q.com Date: 5/9/2019
Subject: Re: 94 Serengeti ride height question
Sounds about like my 30' sahara was. You might consider taking 6 shims from the 3 corners and 9 from the other. Sounds like a lot but it should put you at 25 1/4" all around. That is still within specs and will let you sag a little in the next couple of years. Be sure you find the exact center of the wheels when you measure. The only shocks to even think about are Koni.
Pete, '99 Sahara, 30'

From: "Safarifriends" <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com>
To: "Safarifriends" <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 12:12:25 PM
Subject: [Safarifriends] 94 Serengeti ride height question



I have been reading all i can about adjusting ride height on my coach and I am ready to get this job done and also replace the shocks to improve ride. I do have one question is the 25" measurement from the center of the wheel to the bottom of the belt line apply to all years of the velvet ride magnum chassis? My rig is a 94 and I measured the coach fully loaded and weighed and found 3 corners were all equal at 23 3/4" the drivers side front corner however was lower at 23". My plan was to remove 4 shims from 3 corners and 7 from the drivers front. Have others found this kind of variation with their coaches?    Thanks


Hal

94 Serengeti Duo door Cummins 8.3 Allison transmission 




Group: Safarifriends Message: 41542 From: Jerame Trunnell Date: 5/9/2019
Subject: Re: 94 Serengeti ride height question
I hate to hijack the thread, but where did you get the information about the suspension? I Have the same type of suspension, and would love to learn more about it.

On Thursday, May 9, 2019, 6:08:46 PM EDT, 'nanandpete@...' nanandpete@... [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

Sounds about like my 30' sahara was. You might consider taking 6 shims from the 3 corners and 9 from the other. Sounds like a lot but it should put you at 25 1/4" all around. That is still within specs and will let you sag a little in the next couple of years. Be sure you find the exact center of the wheels when you measure. The only shocks to even think about are Koni.
Pete, '99 Sahara, 30'

From: "Safarifriends" <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com>
To: "Safarifriends" <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 12:12:25 PM
Subject: [Safarifriends] 94 Serengeti ride height question



I have been reading all i can about adjusting ride height on my coach and I am ready to get this job done and also replace the shocks to improve ride. I do have one question is the 25" measurement from the center of the wheel to the bottom of the belt line apply to all years of the velvet ride magnum chassis? My rig is a 94 and I measured the coach fully loaded and weighed and found 3 corners were all equal at 23 3/4" the drivers side front corner however was lower at 23". My plan was to remove 4 shims from 3 corners and 7 from the drivers front. Have others found this kind of variation with their coaches?    Thanks


Hal

94 Serengeti Duo door Cummins 8.3 Allison transmission 




Group: Safarifriends Message: 41544 From: TD Date: 5/9/2019
Subject: Re: 94 Serengeti ride height question
Jerame,

Look in the files section, there should be at least one file that
explains/shows how to measure and adjust ride height.

The Koni shock numbers for all Safari Coaches with the Torsional suspension are:

Front: 88-1641SP3

Rear: 88-1458SP1

NOTE: it is very important to order the shocks by the part numbers
given, otherwise you will get the wrong shocks that will not be ideal
for your suspension and application (hence, a wast of money).

Usually Brazels RV supply and LTB Auto Sports have the best prices and
they include free shipping.

Link for front shocks:
https://www.ultrarvproducts.com/Koni-88-1641SP3-Country-Coach-Freightliner-Neway-IFS-Front-Spartan-Summit-Alpine-Front

Link for rear shocks:
https://www.ultrarvproducts.com/Koni-88-1458SP1-Country-Coach-Safari-Reyco-1212-Suspension-Front

Hal,

The front right corner is known to be the lightest corner on our
coaches, I would suggest to redistribute some of your heavier items,
like tools and other stuff, to the front right corner of your basement
bins. Do this before the ride height adjustment. It would be ideal for
you to find a place that can weigh your coach at each individual
wheel, this way, you can try to spread the weight around as evenly as
possible, then get your ride height done.

John
'95 Safari Serengeti 38ft, 300 Cummins 8.3CTA, Allison
6spd.

On 5/9/19, Jerame Trunnell trunnellfamily@... [Safarifriends]
<Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> I hate to hijack the thread, but where did you get the information about
> the suspension? I Have the same type of suspension, and would love to learn
> more about it.
> On Thursday, May 9, 2019, 6:08:46 PM EDT, 'nanandpete@...'
> nanandpete@... [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Sounds about like my 30' sahara was. You might consider taking 6 shims from
> the 3 corners and 9 from the other. Sounds like a lot but it should put you
> at 25 1/4" all around. That is still within specs and will let you sag a
> little in the next couple of years. Be sure you find the exact center of the
> wheels when you measure. The only shocks to even think about are Koni.Pete,
> '99 Sahara, 30'From: "Safarifriends" <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com>
> To: "Safarifriends" <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 12:12:25 PM
> Subject: [Safarifriends] 94 Serengeti ride height question
>
>
>
>
> I have been reading all i can about adjusting ride height on my coach and I
> am ready to get this job done and also replace the shocks to improve ride. I
> do have one question is the 25" measurement from the center of the wheel to
> the bottom of the belt line apply to all years of the velvet ride magnum
> chassis? My rig is a 94 and I measured the coach fully loaded and weighed
> and found 3 corners were all equal at 23 3/4" the drivers side front corner
> however was lower at 23". My plan was to remove 4 shims from 3 corners and 7
> from the drivers front. Have others found this kind of variation with their
> coaches? Thanks
>
>
>
>
> Hal
>
> 94 Serengeti Duo door Cummins 8.3 Allison transmission
>
>
>
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Group: Safarifriends Message: 41555 From: mel96safari Date: 5/10/2019
Subject: Re: 94 Serengeti ride height question
Pete
Did your '99 Sahara have the Velvet-Ride, (aka: Torsilastic), suspension?
Related image

I thought that the Sahara coaches, (being the entry level Safari coaches), all had the ElipiRide, (leaf spring).
suspension.
Perhaps that changed in '98 or '99?

Mel
'96 Sahara 3530


---In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, <nanandpete@...> wrote :

Sounds about like my 30' sahara was. You might consider taking 6 shims from the 3 corners and 9 from the other. Sounds like a lot but it should put you at 25 1/4" all around. That is still within specs and will let you sag a little in the next couple of years. Be sure you find the exact center of the wheels when you measure. The only shocks to even think about are Koni.
Pete, '99 Sahara, 30'


Group: Safarifriends Message: 41592 From: wolfe102001 Date: 5/13/2019
Subject: Re: Axle ratings and weight
Hal,

Have not worked on your year model-- just the slightly newer ones on Magnum chassis/Cat engines.  But after determining your proper ride height, DO set it to that spec.

Ride height affects ride, handling, U joint and transmission wear, shocks, etc. 

It IS important!

Brett
Group: Safarifriends Message: 41596 From: chvet73 Date: 5/14/2019
Subject: Koni Schocks



Have been very busy finishing some remodeling in the house. But as summer approaches it’s time to get back to the Safari.
More time should be available as in 9 days I will be retired from 35 years as a Shop Teacher. And 10 years in industry.
I’m looking at my shocks and they are Koni. But appear to be the wrong ones.

Front 8805-1022 appear to be non-adjustable
Rear 88-1458SP2

Can someone give me the numbers of what Konis they should be. I find some conflicting info as I search in here.
Also where to buy them.

Thanks in advance for your help.

Mark

1999 Sahara 32’ Magnum chassis
Group: Safarifriends Message: 41597 From: waspph6 Date: 5/14/2019
Subject: Re: Koni Schocks
Mark
I am going to replace my shocks as well and John provided this info on part numbers and where to buy.

Hal 94 Serengeti 3750 Duo Door 8.3 Cummins 6 speed Allison

Look in the files section, there should be at least one file that
explains/shows how to measure and adjust ride height.

The Koni shock numbers for all Safari Coaches with the Torsional suspension are:

Front: 88-1641SP3

Rear: 88-1458SP1

NOTE: it is very important to order the shocks by the part numbers
given, otherwise you will get the wrong shocks that will not be ideal
for your suspension and application (hence, a wast of money).

Usually Brazels RV supply and LTB Auto Sports have the best prices and
they include free shipping.

Link for front shocks:
https://www.ultrarvproducts.com/Koni-88-1641SP3-Country-Coach-Freightliner-Neway-IFS-Front-Spartan-Summit-Alpine-Front

Link for rear shocks:
https://www.ultrarvproducts.com/Koni-88-1458SP1-Country-Coach-Safari-Reyco-1212-Suspension-Front
Group: Safarifriends Message: 41598 From: TD Date: 5/14/2019
Subject: Re: Koni Schocks
Mark,

To add to the correct numbers Hal provided, the shock numbers you gave
for the front are Koni FSD shocks. I have zero data on them as for as
their hydraulic dampening goes. I have heard good things about them,
but don't know if they work well for the torsional suspension. That
said, if the coach rides well and doesn't porpoise and bounce all over
the place, then keep them. There is not point in wasting money if the
shocks work well. Same goes for the rear shocks, if the ride is not to
stiff or harsh in the rear then stay with what you have, as the only
difference is the rear shocks ending with "SP1, vs SP2" are less harsh
on the jarring high frequency bumps. Being that the driver and
passenger are up front, they might not feel the additional harshness
of the SP2. So, again if the ride is satisfactory and there are no
bouncing issues, there is no reason to change the shocks at this
point.

John
'95 Safari Serengeti 38ft, Cummins C8.3-300, Allison
6spd.

On 5/14/19, waspph6@... [Safarifriends]
<Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> Mark I am going to replace my shocks as well and John provided this info on
> part numbers and where to buy.
>
>
> Hal 94 Serengeti 3750 Duo Door 8.3 Cummins 6 speed Allison
>
>
> Look in the files section, there should be at least one file that
> explains/shows how to measure and adjust ride height.
>
> The Koni shock numbers for all Safari Coaches with the Torsional suspension
> are:
>
> Front: 88-1641SP3
>
> Rear: 88-1458SP1
>
> NOTE: it is very important to order the shocks by the part numbers
> given, otherwise you will get the wrong shocks that will not be ideal
> for your suspension and application (hence, a wast of money).
>
> Usually Brazels RV supply and LTB Auto Sports have the best prices and
> they include free shipping.
>
> Link for front shocks:
> https://www.ultrarvproducts.com/Koni-88-1641SP3-Country-Coach-Freightliner-Neway-IFS-Front-Spartan-Summit-Alpine-Front
> https://www.ultrarvproducts.com/Koni-88-1641SP3-Country-Coach-Freightliner-Neway-IFS-Front-Spartan-Summit-Alpine-Front
>
> Link for rear shocks:
> https://www.ultrarvproducts.com/Koni-88-1458SP1-Country-Coach-Safari-Reyco-1212-Suspension-Front
> https://www.ultrarvproducts.com/Koni-88-1458SP1-Country-Coach-Safari-Reyco-1212-Suspension-Front
>
>
Group: Safarifriends Message: 41600 From: Rick Willson Date: 5/14/2019
Subject: Re: Koni Schocks
Listen to John.  I had a coach that was all over the road until I got these shocks. It had Konis also, but, the wrong ones.   Set them to max since you have one of the shorter coaches.

Also make sure your tire pressures are set for your actual load (yep,  get it weighed).  You will not believe the difference in ride.

Rick Willson, 1998 Sahara 3006, 3126B

On Tuesday, May 14, 2019, 3:33:08 PM EDT, TD sdjhtm@... [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:


 

Mark,

To add to the correct numbers Hal provided, the shock numbers you gave
for the front are Koni FSD shocks. I have zero data on them as for as
their hydraulic dampening goes. I have heard good things about them,
but don't know if they work well for the torsional suspension. That
said, if the coach rides well and doesn't porpoise and bounce all over
the place, then keep them. There is not point in wasting money if the
shocks work well. Same goes for the rear shocks, if the ride is not to
stiff or harsh in the rear then stay with what you have, as the only
difference is the rear shocks ending with "SP1, vs SP2" are less harsh
on the jarring high frequency bumps. Being that the driver and
passenger are up front, they might not feel the additional harshness
of the SP2. So, again if the ride is satisfactory and there are no
bouncing issues, there is no reason to change the shocks at this
point.

John
'95 Safari Serengeti 38ft, Cummins C8.3-300, Allison
6spd.

On 5/14/19, waspph6@... [Safarifriends]
<Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> Mark I am going to replace my shocks as well and John provided this info on
> part numbers and where to buy.
>
>
> Hal 94 Serengeti 3750 Duo Door 8.3 Cummins 6 speed Allison
>
>
> Look in the files section, there should be at least one file that
> explains/shows how to measure and adjust ride height.
>
> The Koni shock numbers for all Safari Coaches with the Torsional suspension
> are:
>
> Front: 88-1641SP3
>
> Rear: 88-1458SP1
>
> NOTE: it is very important to order the shocks by the part numbers
> given, otherwise you will get the wrong shocks that will not be ideal
> for your suspension and application (hence, a wast of money).
>
> Usually Brazels RV supply and LTB Auto Sports have the best prices and
> they include free shipping.
>
> Link for front shocks:
> https://www.ultrarvproducts.com/Koni-88-1641SP3-Country-Coach-Freightliner-Neway-IFS-Front-Spartan-Summit-Alpine-Front
> https://www.ultrarvproducts.com/Koni-88-1641SP3-Country-Coach-Freightliner-Neway-IFS-Front-Spartan-Summit-Alpine-Front
>
> Link for rear shocks:
> https://www.ultrarvproducts.com/Koni-88-1458SP1-Country-Coach-Safari-Reyco-1212-Suspension-Front
> https://www.ultrarvproducts.com/Koni-88-1458SP1-Country-Coach-Safari-Reyco-1212-Suspension-Front
>
>

Group: Safarifriends Message: 41675 From: chvet73 Date: 5/20/2019
Subject: Re: Koni Schocks
I’m going to get new front shocks. The rear seem fine. The shocks I have in the front do not stop porpoise effect. That’s why I started digging into this.

The best deal currently seems to be Ultra RV. $140.71 each

Very weird I never got an email with John’s reply. Just was going to ask another question and I found it.

Thanks for your help.
Group: Safarifriends Message: 41676 From: TD Date: 5/20/2019
Subject: Re: Koni Schocks
Chvet,

The front Koni shocks numbers are 88-1641SP3

These shocks are adjustable, the come from the factory, set at least
dampening. If you drive on rough roads, I strongly suggest to set all
four shocks at maximum dampening. This will eliminate porpoising
completely.

John
'95 Safari Serengeti 38ft, Cummins C8.3-300, Allison
6spd.

On 5/20/19, chvet73@... [Safarifriends]
<Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> I’m going to get new front shocks. The rear seem fine. The shocks I have in
> the front do not stop porpoise effect. That’s why I started digging into
> this.
>
> The best deal currently seems to be Ultra RV. $140.71 each
>
> Very weird I never got an email with John’s reply. Just was going to ask
> another question and I found it.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
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Group: Safarifriends Message: 41725 From: TJAMES BLAIR Date: 5/26/2019
Subject: Re: Koni Schocks
It seems that my 37ft 1990 Safari is higher in the front than in the rear and I'm concerned that this will create unwanted lift on the steering and unnecessary drag on the coach resulting in higher fuel consumption and loss of power and more engine wear. Since the rear only has leaf springs and no shocks or airbags I'm not sure what the best solution would be for the best ride and performance.


From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of TD sdjhtm@... [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 6:22:01 PM
To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] Re: Koni Schocks
 
 

Chvet,

The front Koni shocks numbers are 88-1641SP3

These shocks are adjustable, the come from the factory, set at least
dampening. If you drive on rough roads, I strongly suggest to set all
four shocks at maximum dampening. This will eliminate porpoising
completely.

John
'95 Safari Serengeti 38ft, Cummins C8.3-300, Allison
6spd.

On 5/20/19, chvet73@... [Safarifriends]
<Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

> I’m going to get new front shocks. The rear seem fine. The shocks I have in
> the front do not stop porpoise effect. That’s why I started digging into
> this.
>
> The best deal currently seems to be Ultra RV. $140.71 each
>
> Very weird I never got an email with John’s reply. Just was going to ask
> another question and I found it.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> ------------------------------------
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Group: Safarifriends Message: 41731 From: Gary Smith Date: 5/26/2019
Subject: Re: Koni Schocks
What chassis?  Unlikely that Magnum owner manual will help much except in very general terms as your chassis, engine and transmission are very different, being purchased from another chassis supplier, such as John Deere, Oshkosh, etc.  If you don’t know what chassis, decode your VIN (search with Google for a free VIN decoder).  You will need the chassis info now and in the future for suspension, steering, brakes, etc, and how to maintain it.  With that info there can be some help to keep you a happy owner.

Gary
‘98 Sahara 3006 300CAT

On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 1:53 PM TJAMES BLAIR tjamesblair@... [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

It seems that my 37ft 1990 Safari is higher in the front than in the rear and I'm concerned that this will create unwanted lift on the steering and unnecessary drag on the coach resulting in higher fuel consumption and loss of power and more engine wear. Since the rear only has leaf springs and no shocks or airbags I'm not sure what the best solution would be for the best ride and performance.


From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of TD sdjhtm@... [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 6:22:01 PM
To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] Re: Koni Schocks
 
 

Chvet,

The front Koni shocks numbers are 88-1641SP3

These shocks are adjustable, the come from the factory, set at least
dampening. If you drive on rough roads, I strongly suggest to set all
four shocks at maximum dampening. This will eliminate porpoising
completely.

John
'95 Safari Serengeti 38ft, Cummins C8.3-300, Allison
6spd.

On 5/20/19, chvet73@... [Safarifriends]
<Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> I’m going to get new front shocks. The rear seem fine. The shocks I have in
> the front do not stop porpoise effect. That’s why I started digging into
> this.
>
> The best deal currently seems to be Ultra RV. $140.71 each
>
> Very weird I never got an email with John’s reply. Just was going to ask
> another question and I found it.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> ------------------------------------
> Posted by: chvet73@...
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Group: Safarifriends Message: 41736 From: TJAMES BLAIR Date: 5/26/2019
Subject: Re: Koni Schocks
Thank you
90' Safari Ivory
Tj


From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of Gary Smith trekker01@... [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2019 11:58:41 AM
To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] Re: Koni Schocks
 
 

What chassis?  Unlikely that Magnum owner manual will help much except in very general terms as your chassis, engine and transmission are very different, being purchased from another chassis supplier, such as John Deere, Oshkosh, etc.  If you don’t know what chassis, decode your VIN (search with Google for a free VIN decoder).  You will need the chassis info now and in the future for suspension, steering, brakes, etc, and how to maintain it.  With that info there can be some help to keep you a happy owner.

Gary
‘98 Sahara 3006 300CAT

On Sun, May 26, 2019 at 1:53 PM TJAMES BLAIR tjamesblair@... [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

It seems that my 37ft 1990 Safari is higher in the front than in the rear and I'm concerned that this will create unwanted lift on the steering and unnecessary drag on the coach resulting in higher fuel consumption and loss of power and more engine wear. Since the rear only has leaf springs and no shocks or airbags I'm not sure what the best solution would be for the best ride and performance.


From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> on behalf of TD sdjhtm@... [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 6:22:01 PM
To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] Re: Koni Schocks
 
 

Chvet,

The front Koni shocks numbers are 88-1641SP3

These shocks are adjustable, the come from the factory, set at least
dampening. If you drive on rough roads, I strongly suggest to set all
four shocks at maximum dampening. This will eliminate porpoising
completely.

John
'95 Safari Serengeti 38ft, Cummins C8.3-300, Allison
6spd.

On 5/20/19, chvet73@... [Safarifriends]
<Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> I’m going to get new front shocks. The rear seem fine. The shocks I have in
> the front do not stop porpoise effect. That’s why I started digging into
> this.
>
> The best deal currently seems to be Ultra RV. $140.71 each
>
> Very weird I never got an email with John’s reply. Just was going to ask
> another question and I found it.
>
> Thanks for your help.
>
> ------------------------------------
> Posted by: chvet73@...
> ------------------------------------
>
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Group: Safarifriends Message: 41738 From: mel96safari Date: 5/27/2019
Subject: Leaf springs (was: Koni Schocks)
TJAMES
I believe you can have your leaf springs re-arched:

(Goggle "re-arch leaf springs near me").

BTW are you sure your 1990 coach chassis was originally built with no shocks?...(That does not seem possible).

Mel
'96 Sahara

---In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, <tjamesblair@...> wrote :

It seems that my 37ft 1990 Safari is higher in the front than in the rear and I'm concerned that this will create unwanted lift on the steering and unnecessary drag on the coach resulting in higher fuel consumption and loss of power and more engine wear. Since the rear only has leaf springs and no shocks or airbags I'm not sure what the best solution would be for the best ride and performance.




Group: Safarifriends Message: 41742 From: m_shumack Date: 5/28/2019
Subject: Re: Leaf springs (was: Koni Schocks)

I suspect your coach’s leaf springs in the rear have just sagged some (from the weight and age) resulting in the front sitting higher. You could have the rear spring packs rebuilt (new leaf or reached) or just install an extra leaf (or “a helper-leaf spring”) on each side in the rear.

 

Shocks are needed to control bouncing/rebounding (more so on an airbag setup but also on a leaf spring suspension). If you don’t see any now, a previous owner probably removed them.

 

Mike S.

2005 Beaver Patriot

 

From: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com [mailto:Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com]
Sent: Monday, May 27, 2019 12:28 PM
To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Safarifriends] Leaf springs (was: Koni Schocks)

 

 

TJAMES

I believe you can have your leaf springs re-arched:

 

(Goggle "re-arch leaf springs near me").

 

BTW are you sure your 1990 coach chassis was originally built with no shocks?...(That does not seem possible).

 

Mel

'96 Sahara

 

---In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, <tjamesblair@...> wrote :

It seems that my 37ft 1990 Safari is higher in the front than in the rear and I'm concerned that this will create unwanted lift on the steering and unnecessary drag on the coach resulting in higher fuel consumption and loss of power and more engine wear. Since the rear only has leaf springs and no shocks or airbags I'm not sure what the best solution would be for the best ride and performance.


 


Group: Safarifriends Message: 41768 From: TD Date: 6/3/2019
Subject: Re: Konis for 97 3044 Sahara, leaf springs
Al,

Confirmed.

Front: 88-1641SP3

Rear: 88-1458SP1

For best results, set all four shocks at maximum dampening. They come
from the factory, set at least dampening. The shocks will come with
instructions on how to adjust them.

John
'95 Safari Serengeti 38ft, Cummins C8.3-300, Allison
6spd.

On 6/3/19, aglicknmex@... [Safarifriends]
<Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> I've gleaned 88-1641sp3 for front from the files
> I'd like to confirm that and get rear number
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Al Glick Glenwood New Mexico
>
>
>
>
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Group: Safarifriends Message: 41769 From: Gary Smith Date: 6/4/2019
Subject: Re: Konis for 97 3044 Sahara, leaf springs
Al,
John has given you the correct numbers.  I have a different suspension than you have, but the recommended Koni shocks are the same across the board regardless of length (and weight) for the Magnum chassis.

Gary
'98 Sahara 3006 300CAT

On Mon, Jun 3, 2019 at 11:53 PM TD sdjhtm@... [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Al,

Confirmed.

Front: 88-1641SP3

Rear: 88-1458SP1

For best results, set all four shocks at maximum dampening. They come
from the factory, set at least dampening. The shocks will come with
instructions on how to adjust them.

John
'95 Safari Serengeti 38ft, Cummins C8.3-300, Allison
6spd.

On 6/3/19, aglicknmex@... [Safarifriends]
<Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> I've gleaned 88-1641sp3 for front from the files
> I'd like to confirm that and get rear number
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Al Glick Glenwood New Mexico
>
>
>
>
>
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Group: Safarifriends Message: 41771 From: Al Glick Date: 6/4/2019
Subject: Re: Konis for 97 3044 Sahara, leaf springs
Thanks John

On Mon, Jun 3, 2019, 9:53 PM TD sdjhtm@... [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Al,

Confirmed.

Front: 88-1641SP3

Rear: 88-1458SP1

For best results, set all four shocks at maximum dampening. They come
from the factory, set at least dampening. The shocks will come with
instructions on how to adjust them.

John
'95 Safari Serengeti 38ft, Cummins C8.3-300, Allison
6spd.

On 6/3/19, aglicknmex@... [Safarifriends]
<Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> I've gleaned 88-1641sp3 for front from the files
> I'd like to confirm that and get rear number
>
> Thanks in advance,
> Al Glick Glenwood New Mexico
>
>
>
>
>
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Group: Safarifriends Message: 42193 From: fountking Date: 7/19/2019
Subject: Re: Steering box
No Shepards can't be adjusted. Yes they can be rebuilt but no guarantee they will get the slop out. If it is the m80 no direct or close cross to an adj. TRW. 
I replaced my steering column u joints and that actually took most of that out. 

If you hold at each joint with chanel locks and have some one move steering wheel slowly you can check for slop in joint.
In the wheel I could only see about a1/2" of movement that is with some one holding joint w pliers

I did tiger traks, new and added 2nd panard rods, koni shocks  and all helped.

But the u joints made the big difference . On a 1000 mile trip now to and back from Maine and wife really noticed no back and forth

Bob 96 Serengeti
Group: Safarifriends Message: 42196 From: W Taylor Hudson Date: 7/19/2019
Subject: Re: Steering box
Bob, 
What mileage were at when you replaced the steering column U joints?  

Mine has all those upgrades and even replaced king pins at 15K miles. Can’t imagine those wearing out that quickly?  At 20K now, but something could be tighter, or else is that as good as the rubber block suspension can get?
v/r,

Taylor Hudson
‘98 Serengeti (4060), CAT 3126

On Fri, Jul 19, 2019 at 7:16 PM fountking@... [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

No Shepards can't be adjusted. Yes they can be rebuilt but no guarantee they will get the slop out. If it is the m80 no direct or close cross to an adj. TRW. 

I replaced my steering column u joints and that actually took most of that out. 

If you hold at each joint with chanel locks and have some one move steering wheel slowly you can check for slop in joint.
In the wheel I could only see about a1/2" of movement that is with some one holding joint w pliers

I did tiger traks, new and added 2nd panard rods, koni shocks  and all helped.

But the u joints made the big difference . On a 1000 mile trip now to and back from Maine and wife really noticed no back and forth

Bob 96 Serengeti

Group: Safarifriends Message: 42250 From: John Rowin Date: 7/22/2019
Subject: Re: Bubba's are everywhere (was: Detent Pin on Cat 3126 belt tension
Wish I could say the same. I’m unable to do most any work myself but I am blessed to have the RV tech I bought my coach from to keep it up to date and road worthy. Two more Koni shocks and I will be up to date.

John & Martha Rowin 
2000 Safari Continental Panther 42’

Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

On Sunday, July 21, 2019, 7:05 PM, Robert Lewis robert.lewis.tl@... [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Amen, and Amen again.

There are some good competent tech's at RV dealers ... I just hadn't met or found any. Except for a few good ones that specialize in roof repairs or suspensions they usually aren't near where the coach problem happens. From my experience with my current coach and before that a new DP Discovery and before that a 32' higher-end 5th wheel, the work I saw done on those units was a testimony to blind indifference, incompetence and self serving greed. 

The only solution I have found that works is to learn and do it yourself. I can't repair/replace a differential, engine, transmission and the other large heavy pieces by myself but all the rest with the help of this forum can be fixed by me... my experience has been the only resource you can depend on, is your self.

Robert and Bev Lewis
2000 Continental
3126B Cat, 330hp
MD3060 Allison





On July 20, 2019 1:19:28 PM "stuplich@... [Safarifriends]" <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

In the 15 years, (123k miles), I've owned my coach I've paid many different "BUBBA's" who:

1.) Spent 3 days, (@ $120 an hour), diagnosing a bad wire which was causing a DO NOT SHIFT condition.
2.) Spun the treads out of wheel cover jam nuts using a pneumatic torque wrench.
3.) Broke a brush wire while changing the internal voltage regulator of my alternator.
4.) Broke the Kwikee step linkage while doing a oil change and chassis lube.
5.) Charged me over $1,000 to find and replace the bad sensor causing my Cat engine to "surge"
6.) Did not correctly/sufficiently tighten wheel cover jam nuts.. resulting in the loss of a rear SS wheel cover.
7.) Quoted me $80, (but charged me $160), for a refrigerator "tune-up".. which did not fix my refrigerator            problem.
8.) Incorrectly installed Link Cat's Eye equalizers resulting a rear flat tire.
9.) Somehow managed to disconnect the alternator sense wire from the chassis battery.. (when replacing the house batteries)
10.) Said nothing about the 2 broken right front spring U-bolts they should have seen when lubing my chassis.

Image result for good help is hard to find memes

Mel
'96 Sahara


---In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, <bawolfe10@...> wrote :

So, BUBBA was masquerading as a "diesel tech"???


Group: Safarifriends Message: 42251 From: bilmac36 Date: 7/22/2019
Subject: Re: Bubba's are everywhere (was: Detent Pin on Cat 3126 belt tension
John, 
Was always impressed the Panthers. That’s the one with the big stallions pushing it isn’t it, 450hp? 
Tell me about this RV tech you reference? Is that a tech service plan or such?
I probably need to start investigating shocks myself. Primarily due to age of ones I have on Connie.

Thanks and have a good day.
Regards,
Willie, Connie is ‘95 Continental, 8.3L, Ally 6spd 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 22, 2019, at 7:23 AM, John Rowin johndrowin@... [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Wish I could say the same. I’m unable to do most any work myself but I am blessed to have the RV tech I bought my coach from to keep it up to date and road worthy. Two more Koni shocks and I will be up to date.


John & Martha Rowin 
2000 Safari Continental Panther 42’

Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone

On Sunday, July 21, 2019, 7:05 PM, Robert Lewis robert.lewis.tl@... [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

Amen, and Amen again.

There are some good competent tech's at RV dealers ... I just hadn't met or found any. Except for a few good ones that specialize in roof repairs or suspensions they usually aren't near where the coach problem happens. From my experience with my current coach and before that a new DP Discovery and before that a 32' higher-end 5th wheel, the work I saw done on those units was a testimony to blind indifference, incompetence and self serving greed. 

The only solution I have found that works is to learn and do it yourself. I can't repair/replace a differential, engine, transmission and the other large heavy pieces by myself but all the rest with the help of this forum can be fixed by me... my experience has been the only resource you can depend on, is your self.

Robert and Bev Lewis
2000 Continental
3126B Cat, 330hp
MD3060 Allison





On July 20, 2019 1:19:28 PM "stuplich@... [Safarifriends]" <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

In the 15 years, (123k miles), I've owned my coach I've paid many different "BUBBA's" who:

1.) Spent 3 days, (@ $120 an hour), diagnosing a bad wire which was causing a DO NOT SHIFT condition.
2.) Spun the treads out of wheel cover jam nuts using a pneumatic torque wrench.
3.) Broke a brush wire while changing the internal voltage regulator of my alternator.
4.) Broke the Kwikee step linkage while doing a oil change and chassis lube.
5.) Charged me over $1,000 to find and replace the bad sensor causing my Cat engine to "surge"
6.) Did not correctly/sufficiently tighten wheel cover jam nuts.. resulting in the loss of a rear SS wheel cover.
7.) Quoted me $80, (but charged me $160), for a refrigerator "tune-up".. which did not fix my refrigerator            problem.
8.) Incorrectly installed Link Cat's Eye equalizers resulting a rear flat tire.
9.) Somehow managed to disconnect the alternator sense wire from the chassis battery.. (when replacing the house batteries)
10.) Said nothing about the 2 broken right front spring U-bolts they should have seen when lubing my chassis.

Image result for good help is hard to find memes

Mel
'96 Sahara


---In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, <bawolfe10@...> wrote :

So, BUBBA was masquerading as a "diesel tech"???


Group: Safarifriends Message: 42254 From: mel96safari Date: 7/22/2019
Subject: Disposable $$ (was:Bubba's are everywhere (was: Detent Pin on Cat 31
John
I often wondered how anyone unable to do their own motorhome work ccould afford to own & operate a coach.
(I've come to this concision: It must be because they have a whole lot of Disposable $$).
Mel
'96 Sahara 3530

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Wish I could say the same. I’m unable to do most any work myself but I am blessed to have the RV tech I bought my coach from to keep it up to date and road worthy. Two more Koni shocks and I will be up to date.

John & Martha Rowin 
2000 Safari Continental Panther 42’

Group: Safarifriends Message: 42255 From: John Rowin Date: 7/22/2019
Subject: Re: Disposable $$ (was:Bubba's are everywhere (was: Detent Pin on Ca
Will probably sell next year. All disposable income has “vanished”, but I have a super coach with no problems (at this time).


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John
I often wondered how anyone unable to do their own motorhome work ccould afford to own & operate a coach.
(I've come to this concision: It must be because they have a whole lot of Disposable $$).
Mel
'96 Sahara 3530

Related image
ONE HAPPY CAMPER




 
---In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, <johndrowin@...> wrote :

Wish I could say the same. I’m unable to do most any work myself but I am blessed to have the RV tech I bought my coach from to keep it up to date and road worthy. Two more Koni shocks and I will be up to date.

John & Martha Rowin 
2000 Safari Continental Panther 42’

Group: Safarifriends Message: 42345 From: robertfury@gmail.com Date: 7/28/2019
Subject: 1994 Continental Komi part #
Hello. When I bought my coach I replaced the Koni’s with semi truck shocks. Bad idea. I think the Koni’s were most likely worn out (25 years old) but they did a better job than the shocks I replaced them with. Anyone know the correct part numbers for the Koni’s I need?

Robert Fury
1994 Safari Continental 37’
Velvet ride, no airbags
8.3 Cummins 6 speed Allison
Group: Safarifriends Message: 42355 From: TD Date: 7/29/2019
Subject: Re: 1994 Continental Komi part #
Robert,

If you didn't throw away your old Koni shocks, check and see if they are adjusted to maximum dampening (yes, they are adjustable shocks). The shocks come from the factory set at least dampening, so odds are they were never adjusted, and might have life left in them. That said, also verify that the front shocks are the correct number as provided below.

Here are the Koni part numbers you need:

Front: 88-1641SP3

Rear: 88-1458SP1

IMPORTANT: Be sure to order the shocks by part number, not by year, make, model of your coach, otherwise you will get the wrong, non effective shocks, and will have wasted your money.

Also, be sure to set all four shocks at maximum dampening, especially if your drive on rough roads...

John
'95 Safari Serengeti 38ft, Cummins C8.3-300, Allison
6spd

On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 8:53 PM robertfury@... [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hello.  When I bought my coach I replaced the Koni’s with semi truck shocks.  Bad idea.  I think the Koni’s were most likely worn out (25 years old) but they did a better job than the shocks I replaced them with.  Anyone know the correct part numbers for the Koni’s I need?

Robert Fury
1994 Safari Continental 37’
Velvet ride, no airbags
8.3 Cummins 6 speed Allison

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Group: Safarifriends Message: 42357 From: John Rowin Date: 7/29/2019
Subject: Re: 1994 Continental Komi part #
Check these numbers for Koni shocks. Remember these shocks are adjustable.  


Front: 88-1641SP3

Rear: 88-1458SP1 


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Hello. When I bought my coach I replaced the Koni’s with semi truck shocks. Bad idea. I think the Koni’s were most likely worn out (25 years old) but they did a better job than the shocks I replaced them with. Anyone know the correct part numbers for the Koni’s I need?

Robert Fury
1994 Safari Continental 37’
Velvet ride, no airbags
8.3 Cummins 6 speed Allison

Group: Safarifriends Message: 42359 From: bilmac36 . Date: 7/29/2019
Subject: Re: 1994 Continental Komi part #
John, 
good morning. Did your research show these shocks are same for '95 Continental, 40' Magnum Chassis as well?
I'd like to file this information for future reference for when I need them. Appreciate the info.
Thanks,
wm


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Robert,

If you didn't throw away your old Koni shocks, check and see if they are adjusted to maximum dampening (yes, they are adjustable shocks). The shocks come from the factory set at least dampening, so odds are they were never adjusted, and might have life left in them. That said, also verify that the front shocks are the correct number as provided below.

Here are the Koni part numbers you need:

Front: 88-1641SP3

Rear: 88-1458SP1

IMPORTANT: Be sure to order the shocks by part number, not by year, make, model of your coach, otherwise you will get the wrong, non effective shocks, and will have wasted your money.

Also, be sure to set all four shocks at maximum dampening, especially if your drive on rough roads...

John
'95 Safari Serengeti 38ft, Cummins C8.3-300, Allison
6spd

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Hello.  When I bought my coach I replaced the Koni’s with semi truck shocks.  Bad idea.  I think the Koni’s were most likely worn out (25 years old) but they did a better job than the shocks I replaced them with.  Anyone know the correct part numbers for the Koni’s I need?

Robert Fury
1994 Safari Continental 37’
Velvet ride, no airbags
8.3 Cummins 6 speed Allison

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Group: Safarifriends Message: 42360 From: John Rowin Date: 7/29/2019
Subject: Re: 1994 Continental Komi part #
No. Installed on my 2000 Safari Continental Panther. I am trying to find from which I purchased because they were a wonderful help. I will let you know if I get that name. I just got to dig. My computer is my phone. 

John & Martha Rowin
2000 Safari Continental Panther 


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John, 
good morning. Did your research show these shocks are same for '95 Continental, 40' Magnum Chassis as well?
I'd like to file this information for future reference for when I need them. Appreciate the info.
Thanks,
wm


On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 2:18 AM TD sdjhtm@... [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Robert,

If you didn't throw away your old Koni shocks, check and see if they are adjusted to maximum dampening (yes, they are adjustable shocks). The shocks come from the factory set at least dampening, so odds are they were never adjusted, and might have life left in them. That said, also verify that the front shocks are the correct number as provided below.

Here are the Koni part numbers you need:

Front: 88-1641SP3

Rear: 88-1458SP1

IMPORTANT: Be sure to order the shocks by part number, not by year, make, model of your coach, otherwise you will get the wrong, non effective shocks, and will have wasted your money.

Also, be sure to set all four shocks at maximum dampening, especially if your drive on rough roads...

John
'95 Safari Serengeti 38ft, Cummins C8.3-300, Allison
6spd

On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 8:53 PM robertfury@... [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hello.  When I bought my coach I replaced the Koni’s with semi truck shocks.  Bad idea.  I think the Koni’s were most likely worn out (25 years old) but they did a better job than the shocks I replaced them with.  Anyone know the correct part numbers for the Koni’s I need?

Robert Fury
1994 Safari Continental 37’
Velvet ride, no airbags
8.3 Cummins 6 speed Allison

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Group: Safarifriends Message: 42362 From: bilmac36 . Date: 7/29/2019
Subject: Re: 1994 Continental Komi part #
ok, great. Thanks. And completely understand the computer is the phone concept!
r/wm

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No. Installed on my 2000 Safari Continental Panther. I am trying to find from which I purchased because they were a wonderful help. I will let you know if I get that name. I just got to dig. My computer is my phone. 


John & Martha Rowin
2000 Safari Continental Panther 


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John, 
good morning. Did your research show these shocks are same for '95 Continental, 40' Magnum Chassis as well?
I'd like to file this information for future reference for when I need them. Appreciate the info.
Thanks,
wm


On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 2:18 AM TD sdjhtm@... [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Robert,

If you didn't throw away your old Koni shocks, check and see if they are adjusted to maximum dampening (yes, they are adjustable shocks). The shocks come from the factory set at least dampening, so odds are they were never adjusted, and might have life left in them. That said, also verify that the front shocks are the correct number as provided below.

Here are the Koni part numbers you need:

Front: 88-1641SP3

Rear: 88-1458SP1

IMPORTANT: Be sure to order the shocks by part number, not by year, make, model of your coach, otherwise you will get the wrong, non effective shocks, and will have wasted your money.

Also, be sure to set all four shocks at maximum dampening, especially if your drive on rough roads...

John
'95 Safari Serengeti 38ft, Cummins C8.3-300, Allison
6spd

On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 8:53 PM robertfury@gmail..com [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hello..  When I bought my coach I replaced the Koni’s with semi truck shocks.  Bad idea.  I think the Koni’s were most likely worn out (25 years old) but they did a better job than the shocks I replaced them with.  Anyone know the correct part numbers for the Koni’s I need?

Robert Fury
1994 Safari Continental 37’
Velvet ride, no airbags
8.3 Cummins 6 speed Allison

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Group: Safarifriends Message: 42363 From: John Rowin Date: 7/29/2019
Subject: Re: 1994 Continental Komi part #
Purchased my Koni shocks at


You might give them a call. Very knowledgeable people. 

Hohn& Martha Rowin
2000 Safari Continental Panther 


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ok, great. Thanks. And completely understand the computer is the phone concept!
r/wm

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No. Installed on my 2000 Safari Continental Panther. I am trying to find from which I purchased because they were a wonderful help. I will let you know if I get that name. I just got to dig. My computer is my phone. 


John & Martha Rowin
2000 Safari Continental Panther 


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On Monday, July 29, 2019, 7:10 AM, 'bilmac36 .' bilmac36@... [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

John, 
good morning. Did your research show these shocks are same for '95 Continental, 40' Magnum Chassis as well?
I'd like to file this information for future reference for when I need them. Appreciate the info.
Thanks,
wm


On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 2:18 AM TD sdjhtm@... [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

Robert,

If you didn't throw away your old Koni shocks, check and see if they are adjusted to maximum dampening (yes, they are adjustable shocks). The shocks come from the factory set at least dampening, so odds are they were never adjusted, and might have life left in them. That said, also verify that the front shocks are the correct number as provided below.

Here are the Koni part numbers you need:

Front: 88-1641SP3

Rear: 88-1458SP1

IMPORTANT: Be sure to order the shocks by part number, not by year, make, model of your coach, otherwise you will get the wrong, non effective shocks, and will have wasted your money.

Also, be sure to set all four shocks at maximum dampening, especially if your drive on rough roads...

John
'95 Safari Serengeti 38ft, Cummins C8.3-300, Allison
6spd

On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 8:53 PM robertfury@gmail..com [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hello..  When I bought my coach I replaced the Koni’s with semi truck shocks.  Bad idea.  I think the Koni’s were most likely worn out (25 years old) but they did a better job than the shocks I replaced them with.  Anyone know the correct part numbers for the Koni’s I need?

Robert Fury
1994 Safari Continental 37’
Velvet ride, no airbags
8.3 Cummins 6 speed Allison

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Group: Safarifriends Message: 42364 From: bilmac36 Date: 7/29/2019
Subject: Re: 1994 Continental Komi part #
Thanks John.

I need to read up on these shocks. I’m thinking my shocks are OEM, but I could be wrong. The coach was 4-5 yrs old when I got her. But I have Bilsteins on it. Just walked over to ck it out and took this shot of front driver’s side.  For those who read this feel free to share your opinions regarding your experience of quality or lack there of of these. I’m almost certain I have Bilstein on rear as well.



 
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Purchased my Koni shocks at



You might give them a call. Very knowledgeable people. 

Hohn& Martha Rowin
2000 Safari Continental Panther 


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ok, great. Thanks. And completely understand the computer is the phone concept!
r/wm

On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 7:25 AM John Rowin johndrowin@... [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

No. Installed on my 2000 Safari Continental Panther. I am trying to find from which I purchased because they were a wonderful help. I will let you know if I get that name. I just got to dig. My computer is my phone. 


John & Martha Rowin
2000 Safari Continental Panther 


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On Monday, July 29, 2019, 7:10 AM, 'bilmac36 .' bilmac36@... [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

John, 
good morning. Did your research show these shocks are same for '95 Continental, 40' Magnum Chassis as well?
I'd like to file this information for future reference for when I need them. Appreciate the info.
Thanks,
wm


On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 2:18 AM TD sdjhtm@... [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups..com> wrote:
 

Robert,

If you didn't throw away your old Koni shocks, check and see if they are adjusted to maximum dampening (yes, they are adjustable shocks). The shocks come from the factory set at least dampening, so odds are they were never adjusted, and might have life left in them. That said, also verify that the front shocks are the correct number as provided below.

Here are the Koni part numbers you need:

Front: 88-1641SP3

Rear: 88-1458SP1

IMPORTANT: Be sure to order the shocks by part number, not by year, make, model of your coach, otherwise you will get the wrong, non effective shocks, and will have wasted your money.

Also, be sure to set all four shocks at maximum dampening, especially if your drive on rough roads...

John
'95 Safari Serengeti 38ft, Cummins C8.3-300, Allison
6spd

On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 8:53 PM robertfury@gmail..com [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hello..  When I bought my coach I replaced the Koni’s with semi truck shocks.  Bad idea.  I think the Koni’s were most likely worn out (25 years old) but they did a better job than the shocks I replaced them with.  Anyone know the correct part numbers for the Koni’s I need?

Robert Fury
1994 Safari Continental 37’
Velvet ride, no airbags
8.3 Cummins 6 speed Allison

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Group: Safarifriends Message: 42365 From: bilmac36 Date: 7/29/2019
Subject: Re: 1994 Continental Komi part #
image1.jpeg
Sorry about the two part email. This pix goes with my last note. My ph got squirrelly on me.
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Purchased my Koni shocks at



You might give them a call. Very knowledgeable people. 

Hohn& Martha Rowin
2000 Safari Continental Panther 


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On Monday, July 29, 2019, 7:50 AM, 'bilmac36 .' bilmac36@... [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

ok, great. Thanks. And completely understand the computer is the phone concept!
r/wm

On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 7:25 AM John Rowin johndrowin@... [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
 

No. Installed on my 2000 Safari Continental Panther. I am trying to find from which I purchased because they were a wonderful help. I will let you know if I get that name. I just got to dig. My computer is my phone. 


John & Martha Rowin
2000 Safari Continental Panther 


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On Monday, July 29, 2019, 7:10 AM, 'bilmac36 .' bilmac36@... [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

John, 
good morning. Did your research show these shocks are same for '95 Continental, 40' Magnum Chassis as well?
I'd like to file this information for future reference for when I need them. Appreciate the info.
Thanks,
wm


On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 2:18 AM TD sdjhtm@... [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups..com> wrote:
 

Robert,

If you didn't throw away your old Koni shocks, check and see if they are adjusted to maximum dampening (yes, they are adjustable shocks). The shocks come from the factory set at least dampening, so odds are they were never adjusted, and might have life left in them. That said, also verify that the front shocks are the correct number as provided below.

Here are the Koni part numbers you need:

Front: 88-1641SP3

Rear: 88-1458SP1

IMPORTANT: Be sure to order the shocks by part number, not by year, make, model of your coach, otherwise you will get the wrong, non effective shocks, and will have wasted your money.

Also, be sure to set all four shocks at maximum dampening, especially if your drive on rough roads...

John
'95 Safari Serengeti 38ft, Cummins C8.3-300, Allison
6spd

On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 8:53 PM robertfury@gmail..com [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
Hello..  When I bought my coach I replaced the Koni’s with semi truck shocks.  Bad idea.  I think the Koni’s were most likely worn out (25 years old) but they did a better job than the shocks I replaced them with.  Anyone know the correct part numbers for the Koni’s I need?

Robert Fury
1994 Safari Continental 37’
Velvet ride, no airbags
8.3 Cummins 6 speed Allison

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Group: Safarifriends Message: 42366 From: TD Date: 7/29/2019
Subject: Re: 1994 Continental Komi part #
Willie,

Yes, those numbers are the same for your coach and for all Magnum
chassis coaches with torsional suspension, leaf spring suspension, and
the rare 4 air bag suspension. They are NOT the same for Magnum
chassis with the 8 air bag suspension.

Judging by John and Martha's comment, I would venture to guess that
their coach is an 8 airbag suspension, and this is why they got the
wrong shocks. Their answer to you is incorrect.

Also, the stated shock part numbers are the same for the older coaches
with the Oshkosh chassis and torsional suspension.

I will repeat again, so there is no costly confusion, for the stated
coaches above, with the exception of the 8 airbag suspension coaches,
you MUST order the shocks via the part numbers NOT via year, make and
model.

And please, anyone not sure about their coach and what shocks they
need, PLEASE, just ask, we will get you the info you need.

John
'95 Safari Serengeti 38ft, Cummins C8.3-300, Allison
6spd


On 7/29/19, 'bilmac36 .' bilmac36@... [Safarifriends]
<Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> John,
> good morning. Did your research show these shocks are same for '95
> Continental, 40' Magnum Chassis as well?
> I'd like to file this information for future reference for when I need
> them. Appreciate the info.
> Thanks,
> wm
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 2:18 AM TD sdjhtm@... [Safarifriends] <
> Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> Robert,
>>
>> If you didn't throw away your old Koni shocks, check and see if they are
>> adjusted to maximum dampening (yes, they are adjustable shocks). The
>> shocks
>> come from the factory set at least dampening, so odds are they were never
>> adjusted, and might have life left in them. That said, also verify that
>> the
>> front shocks are the correct number as provided below.
>>
>> Here are the Koni part numbers you need:
>>
>> Front: 88-1641SP3
>>
>> Rear: 88-1458SP1
>>
>> *IMPORTANT:* Be sure to order the shocks by part number, not by year,
>> make, model of your coach, otherwise you will get the wrong, non
>> effective
>> shocks, and will have wasted your money.
>>
>> Also, be sure to set all four shocks at maximum dampening, especially if
>> your drive on rough roads...
>>
>> John
>> '95 Safari Serengeti 38ft, Cummins C8.3-300, Allison
>> 6spd
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 8:53 PM robertfury@... [Safarifriends] <
>> Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello. When I bought my coach I replaced the Koni’s with semi truck
>>> shocks. Bad idea. I think the Koni’s were most likely worn out (25
>>> years
>>> old) but they did a better job than the shocks I replaced them with.
>>> Anyone know the correct part numbers for the Koni’s I need?
>>>
>>> Robert Fury
>>> 1994 Safari Continental 37’
>>> Velvet ride, no airbags
>>> 8.3 Cummins 6 speed Allison
>>>
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>>> Posted by: robertfury@...
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Group: Safarifriends Message: 42367 From: TD Date: 7/29/2019
Subject: Re: 1994 Continental Komi part #
Willie,

This is a very old known topic. The Koni numbers given will give you
the best ride and handling control, period.
If you don't mind a harsh ride, and your coach, at this point, is not
porpoising or bottoming out, then you can choose to leave the
Bilstiens on for a while. The issue is not the quality, it is the type
of shock and the way the valving is set up. This has been researched
in real life, with many road miles by a member who has since past
(Ralph Andrews). He was instrumental in developing aftermarket
suspension parts that improved ride handling issues, and was also
instrumental in finding the best possible shocks that work for our
coaches.
There is no reason to reinvent the wheel, the fact is, if you order
the shocks for your coach by using the year make and model, you will
get expensive shocks, that will fit your coach but won't do the job,
hence, they will be useless. It is highly likely that 99% of the long
time members of this group use the Koni shocks with the part numbers
stated. Obviously, this excludes the 8 air bag coaches. If you still
have doubts and have that much time to kill, go ahead and search "Koni
part numbers" on this group...

John
'95 Safari Serengeti 38ft, Cummins C8.3-300, Allison
6spd

On 7/29/19, bilmac36 bilmac36@... [Safarifriends]
<Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> Thanks John.
>
> I need to read up on these shocks. I’m thinking my shocks are OEM, but I
> could be wrong. The coach was 4-5 yrs old when I got her. But I have
> Bilsteins on it. Just walked over to ck it out and took this shot of front
> driver’s side. For those who read this feel free to share your opinions
> regarding your experience of quality or lack there of of these. I’m almost
> certain I have Bilstein on rear as well.
>
>
>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On Jul 29, 2019, at 7:49 AM, John Rowin johndrowin@...
>> [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> Purchased my Koni shocks at
>>
>>
>> https://www.ultrarvproducts.com/index.php?route=information/contact/success
>>
>> You might give them a call. Very knowledgeable people.
>>
>> Hohn& Martha Rowin
>> 2000 Safari Continental Panther
>>
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>>
>> On Monday, July 29, 2019, 7:50 AM, 'bilmac36 .' bilmac36@...
>> [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> ok, great. Thanks. And completely understand the computer is the phone
>> concept!
>> r/wm
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 7:25 AM John Rowin johndrowin@...
>> [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>
>> No. Installed on my 2000 Safari Continental Panther. I am trying to find
>> from which I purchased because they were a wonderful help. I will let you
>> know if I get that name. I just got to dig. My computer is my phone.
>>
>>
>> John & Martha Rowin
>> 2000 Safari Continental Panther
>>
>>
>> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>>
>> On Monday, July 29, 2019, 7:10 AM, 'bilmac36 .' bilmac36@...
>> [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>>
>>
>> John,
>> good morning. Did your research show these shocks are same for '95
>> Continental, 40' Magnum Chassis as well?
>> I'd like to file this information for future reference for when I need
>> them. Appreciate the info.
>> Thanks,
>> wm
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 2:18 AM TD sdjhtm@... [Safarifriends]
>> <Safarifriends@yahoogroups..com> wrote:
>>
>> Robert,
>>
>> If you didn't throw away your old Koni shocks, check and see if they are
>> adjusted to maximum dampening (yes, they are adjustable shocks). The
>> shocks come from the factory set at least dampening, so odds are they were
>> never adjusted, and might have life left in them. That said, also verify
>> that the front shocks are the correct number as provided below.
>>
>> Here are the Koni part numbers you need:
>>
>> Front: 88-1641SP3
>>
>> Rear: 88-1458SP1
>>
>> IMPORTANT: Be sure to order the shocks by part number, not by year, make,
>> model of your coach, otherwise you will get the wrong, non effective
>> shocks, and will have wasted your money.
>>
>> Also, be sure to set all four shocks at maximum dampening, especially if
>> your drive on rough roads...
>>
>> John
>> '95 Safari Serengeti 38ft, Cummins C8.3-300, Allison
>> 6spd
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 8:53 PM robertfury@gmail..com [Safarifriends]
>> <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>> Hello.. When I bought my coach I replaced the Koni’s with semi truck
>> shocks. Bad idea. I think the Koni’s were most likely worn out (25 years
>> old) but they did a better job than the shocks I replaced them with.
>> Anyone know the correct part numbers for the Koni’s I need?
>>
>> Robert Fury
>> 1994 Safari Continental 37’
>> Velvet ride, no airbags
>> 8.3 Cummins 6 speed Allison
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>> Posted by: robertfury@...
>> ------------------------------------
>>
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Group: Safarifriends Message: 42368 From: TD Date: 7/29/2019
Subject: Re: 1994 Continental Komi part #
John and Martha,

What suspension does your coach have??? This is very important
information to know, when asking about shocks. I wish you would have
asked on this group, what shocks you needed for your coach, as it
would have avoided getting the wrong ones.

Also, kindly, please don't make blanket statements like you did to
Willie, regarding the shocks for his coach, as the information was
incorrect and it creates confusion.

John
'95 Safari Serengeti 38ft, Cummins C8.3-300, Allison
6spd

On 7/29/19, John Rowin johndrowin@... [Safarifriends]
<Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> Purchased my Koni shocks at
> https://www.ultrarvproducts.com/index.php?route=information/contact/success
> You might give them a call. Very knowledgeable people.
> Hohn& Martha Rowin2000 Safari Continental Panther
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>
>
> On Monday, July 29, 2019, 7:50 AM, 'bilmac36 .' bilmac36@...
> [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> ok, great. Thanks. And completely understand the computer is the phone
> concept!r/wm
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 7:25 AM John Rowin johndrowin@...
> [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
> No. Installed on my 2000 Safari Continental Panther. I am trying to find
> from which I purchased because they were a wonderful help. I will let you
> know if I get that name. I just got to dig. My computer is my phone.
>
> John & Martha Rowin2000 Safari Continental Panther
>
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail for iPhone
>
>
> On Monday, July 29, 2019, 7:10 AM, 'bilmac36 .' bilmac36@...
> [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> John, good morning. Did your research show these shocks are same for '95
> Continental, 40' Magnum Chassis as well?I'd like to file this information
> for future reference for when I need them. Appreciate the info.Thanks,wm
>
> On Mon, Jul 29, 2019 at 2:18 AM TD sdjhtm@... [Safarifriends]
> <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
>
>
> Robert,
> If you didn't throw away your old Koni shocks, check and see if they are
> adjusted to maximum dampening (yes, they are adjustable shocks). The shocks
> come from the factory set at least dampening, so odds are they were never
> adjusted, and might have life left in them. That said, also verify that the
> front shocks are the correct number as provided below.
> Here are the Koni part numbers you need:
> Front: 88-1641SP3
>
> Rear: 88-1458SP1
>
> IMPORTANT: Be sure to order the shocks by part number, not by year, make,
> model of your coach, otherwise you will get the wrong, non effective shocks,
> and will have wasted your money.
> Also, be sure to set all four shocks at maximum dampening, especially if
> your drive on rough roads...
> John
> '95 Safari Serengeti 38ft, Cummins C8.3-300, Allison
> 6spd
> On Sun, Jul 28, 2019 at 8:53 PM robertfury@gmail..com [Safarifriends]
> <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
>
> Hello.. When I bought my coach I replaced the Koni’s with semi truck
> shocks. Bad idea. I think the Koni’s were most likely worn out (25 years
> old) but they did a better job than the shocks I replaced them with. Anyone
> know the correct part numbers for the Koni’s I need?
>
> Robert Fury
> 1994 Safari Continental 37’
> Velvet ride, no airbags
> 8.3 Cummins 6 speed Allison
>
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> Posted by: robertfury@...
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Group: Safarifriends Message: 42373 From: gregory snell Date: 7/29/2019
Subject: Re: 1994 Continental Komi part #
Is there a site that crosses part numbers? I’ve tried the ones on my shocks but have had no luck. 1992 safari Kenya pusher. 

Sent from my iPhone

On Jul 29, 2019, at 8:33 AM, robertfury@... [Safarifriends] <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:

 

$141, no tax, free shipping

Group: Safarifriends Message: 42374 From: TD Date: 7/29/2019
Subject: Re: 1994 Continental Komi part #
Gregory,

You have the odd ball unit, so it will take some leg work and time.

What chassis do you have?
Is the suspension leaf spring or torsional.

Get me some numbers off of the shocks and let me know what brand they are.
Also, measure both the front and rear shocks fully extended and fully
colapsed, measuring from the center hole to center hole, and I will do
my best to find the info you need.

John
'95 Safari Serengeti 38ft, Cummins C8.3-300, Allison
6spd


On 7/29/19, gregory snell newg-reg@... [Safarifriends]
<Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com> wrote:
> Is there a site that crosses part numbers? I’ve tried the ones on my shocks
> but have had no luck. 1992 safari Kenya pusher.
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Jul 29, 2019, at 8:33 AM,
> robertfury@...<mailto:robertfury@...> [Safarifriends]
> <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com>>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> $141, no tax, free shipping
>
>
>