Our last trip in our '92 Trek was almost exclusively in heavy head
and cross wind conditions, not a pleasant experience!

Has anyone had experience with Safety T Plus or Steer Safe steering
stabilizers on the Isuzu chassis? If so, are they effective, how
much did they cost and where did you purchase it?

Thanks,
Smitty

Smitty,
When we were at the FMCA Rally in Hutchison, KS I had
contacted with a vendor that was selling the steer
safe. I can't remember the name at this time, but I do
have the brochure on the Trek. They gave me a price of
$350 installed at the rally. Well, the rains came,
then they cancellec the installation until the next
day. Well, thwe rain did not stop. we decided to leave
the swamp before we where axel deep in mud, they then
contacted me as I was already on the road to get out
of town. So, did not have it done, but will have it
done when we go to the Buffalo, NY Rally and Safari
pre Rally. I have heard a lot of good things and
comments from other owners who have had it installed
and are quite satisfied.
HTH
Sea Ya



--- carolruss2 <carolruss2@...> wrote:

> Our last trip in our '92 Trek was almost exclusively
> in heavy head
> and cross wind conditions, not a pleasant
> experience!
>
> Has anyone had experience with Safety T Plus or
> Steer Safe steering
> stabilizers on the Isuzu chassis? If so, are they
> effective, how
> much did they cost and where did you purchase it?
>
> Thanks,
> Smitty
>
>
>

=====
Larry Dill & Lucy Walsh
93 Safari Trek
Isuzu Chassis
No Toad, Yet
F293658, C2C
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Smitty, I had the Steer Safe installed by Camping World on my '94 Trek
24' and it made a world of diff.,especially on windy days. Much,much
less corrective steering going down the road. It comes with excellent
installation instructions. I don't remember the exact cost, but I think
300 to $350 installed. It had to be ordered. Steer Safe is an
excellent Co. to deal with.You can get on their web site for more info.
Frank

I have the Steer Safe on my 30' '98 Sahara and love it. It should have come
as standard equipment ! RG

>From: "carolruss2" <carolruss2@...>
>Reply-To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
>To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Safarifriends] Safety T Plus or Steer Safe steering stabilizers
>Date: Wed, 30 Apr 2003 06:25:28 -0000
>
>Our last trip in our '92 Trek was almost exclusively in heavy head
>and cross wind conditions, not a pleasant experience!
>
>Has anyone had experience with Safety T Plus or Steer Safe steering
>stabilizers on the Isuzu chassis? If so, are they effective, how
>much did they cost and where did you purchase it?
>
>Thanks,
>Smitty
>
>
>
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We have a 97 Sahara 30'. Would anyone please provide the fuse listing
for the three boxes on the front firewall. Also, would like a
recommendation for location of parts. Need fuse box cover and outside
entry lens and cover.
Thanks,
DJ

If you are refering to the big master fuse on the front of the engine
compartment box etc., I suggest you call Monaco Parts. That seems to be
pretty unique to the Safari and they should know and have one available. I
plan to get a spare one when I am in Oregon in August. I am unfamiliar with
any fuse box cover on our 98 Sahara that might be missing on yours/ Also
don''t know about any outside entry lens cover.

----- Original Message -----
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To: <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 23, 2004 3:34 AM
Subject: [Safarifriends] Fuse Box Help


> We have a 97 Sahara 30'. Would anyone please provide the fuse listing
> for the three boxes on the front firewall. Also, would like a
> recommendation for location of parts. Need fuse box cover and outside
> entry lens and cover.
> Thanks,
> DJ
>
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For those who aren't aware, the 97 I think is the last with a "hood" so those of us who have only had 98 or later won't know what those boxes are like.

On 6/23/2004 at 10:34 AM dnadeau105@... wrote:

>Jfack,
>Thanks for the reply. The 3 fuse boxes that I am talking about are in the
>front of the vehicle, under hood, just behind the head lights. They are
>about 5x5
>and there are three. I lost one cover and am missing the listing to know
>what
>the fuses goes to what accessory.
>thanks again,
>DJ


Don Bradner
www.arcatapet.net

We have a 97 Safari Sahara 30 foot. Can anyone help with the
identification of the fuzes within the three black boxes under the
front access cover?
Doug

Please clarify this somewhat. Are you referring to the foreward most
exterior panel located on the drivers side of the coach ? RG

>From: "Douglas Nadeau" <dnadeau280@...>
>Reply-To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
>To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Safarifriends] Fuze Box
>Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 14:12:32 -0000
>
>We have a 97 Safari Sahara 30 foot. Can anyone help with the
>identification of the fuzes within the three black boxes under the
>front access cover?
>Doug
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There should be three fuse blocks in that compartment. Fuse block #1 is
connected to the chasis battery, and is "hot" when the ignition key is
turned on. On my 1998 Sahara it is set up as such :
1) 25 amp fan relay
2) 15 amp cruise control light
3) 15 amp dash guages, back up lights, cd player, CAT reader
4) 10 amp leveler controls
5) 30 amp dash A/C slow speed fan
6) 10 amp PAC brake
7) 20 amp windshield wipers
8) 5 amp Windshield washer, remote mirrors
9) 15 amp air horn, steps

Fuse block #2 runs off of the chasis battery but is ALWAYS "HOT" meaning
they run regardless of whether the ignition is on or off

10) 15 amp parking, clearing, marker, A/C panel light, Delco lights,
shifter, CAT id
11) 20 amp emergency flasher
12) 15 amp air horn relay/pump
13) 10 amp am/fm radio cd player memory
14) 10 amp cab map lights
15) 10 amp dash switch lights
16) 5 amp chasis solar panel
17) 5 amp cb radio, stereo clock
18) 10 amp guage lights, headlight relay

Fuse block #3 operates directly off the house batteries and are always "HOT"
regardless of ignition key.

19) 5 amp battery boost solenoid
20) 15 amp cargo bay lights
21) 30 amp entry step
22) 5 amp rear camera
23) 5 amp dash fans
24) 10 amp mirror heaters
25) 25 amp fog lights
26) 15 amp cigarette lighter
27) 20 amp docking lights

Your may or may not be totally different. I hope this helps you. RG

>From: "DOUGLAS NADEAU" <dnadeau280@...>
>Reply-To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
>To: <Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com>
>Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] Fuze Box
>Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 10:08:16 -0700
>
>Richard,
>That is correct.
>Doug
> ----- Original Message -----
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> To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com<mailto:Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 9:56 AM
> Subject: RE: [Safarifriends] Fuze Box
>
>
> Please clarify this somewhat. Are you referring to the foreward most
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>
>
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> >Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 14:12:32 -0000
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Hi everyone, I have a 1991 Ivory edition that I bought recently
It has the oshkosh chassis and It wanders on the road I was wondering
If I need to replace the shocks or maybe the tie rods if this would help
I Installed the steer safe from camping world and doesn't seem to help.
any suggestions.......Thanks Ron

----- Original Message -----

From: Ronnie Gifford

To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 10:59 AM

Subject: [Safarifriends] steering problem

Hi everyone, I have a 1991 Ivory edition that I bought recently
It has the oshkosh chassis and It wanders on the road I was wondering
If I need to replace the shocks or maybe the tie rods if this would help
I Installed the steer safe from camping world and doesn't seem to help.
any suggestions.......Thanks Ron

Steer safe components need to be adjusted properly. It is not a case of
simply bolting on and noticing a difference. Often a few adjustments are
necessary to get it right. And these adjustments are done in increments of
an 1/8 inch. However, to really get the wandering dialed out Hendersons
Alignment in Oregon sells components called TIGER TRACKS that are suspension
enhancements that made a huge difference on my coach. Check them out on
line. RG

>From: "Ronnie Gifford" <rgbonehead@...>
>Reply-To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
>To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Safarifriends] steering problem
>Date: Wed, 10 May 2006 14:59:48 -0000
>
>Hi everyone, I have a 1991 Ivory edition that I bought recently
>It has the oshkosh chassis and It wanders on the road I was wondering
>If I need to replace the shocks or maybe the tie rods if this would help
>I Installed the steer safe from camping world and doesn't seem to help.
>any suggestions.......Thanks Ron
>
>
>
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Where in oregon is hendersons located? I did a web search for tiger tracks and found nothing........Ron

Medford.

The two best on the West Coast are Henderson's Lineup in Medford, and Kaiser Brake and Alignment in Eugene.

On 5/10/2006 at 1:52 PM rgbonehead@... wrote:

>Where in oregon is hendersons located? I did a web search for tiger
>tracks
>and found nothing........Ron


Don Bradner
www.arcatapet.net

----- Original Message -----

From: rgbonehead@...

To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com

Sent: Wednesday, May 10, 2006 1:52 PM

Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] steering problem

Where in oregon is hendersons located? I did a web search for tiger tracks and found nothing........Ron

Ouch! Don't know why I said Medford - I knew it was GP.

On 5/10/2006 at 2:19 PM Gary Smith wrote:

>Grants Pass. Try a Google search for Super Steer.

Don Bradner
www.arcatapet.net

It is tiger trak......Ron

I found it I live in Roseburg so that's not far.......Thanks .....Ron

Ron, You have a different chassis than I have in my '96. However
you may have what I had. Mine wandered something terrible. while on
our way out west I was in Deming, NM and stopped by the Steer Safe
factory and had their spring thing installed. Since they said I could
use it for 30 days and if not satisfied I could send it back. Well
when I got to Oregon, I decided to take it off, since, while it seemed
to help, it was just covering up the wadering, not correcting it.

While I was under the coach removing the steer safe, I touched
everything and all was tight. However when I put my vice grips on the
shaft comming from the steering wheel to the sector box I could turn
the steering wheel and nothing happened. I found that there were two
small u-joints in the shaft and both bolts that hold them tight were
finger tight. I tightned the bolts in the u-bolts and now my
wandering is gone. Drives much better.

However since I am only about a hour away from Henderson in Grants
Pass, I am going to let them drive it and see if there is anything
else that can be done, however right now it really drives great.

So, why don't you check everything for tightness and let us now what
you find.

Jim

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "Ronnie Gifford"
<rgbonehead@...> wrote:

>
> Hi everyone, I have a 1991 Ivory edition that I bought recently
> It has the oshkosh chassis and It wanders on the road I was wondering
> If I need to replace the shocks or maybe the tie rods if this would

help

> I Installed the steer safe from camping world and doesn't seem to

help.

> any suggestions.......Thanks Ron
>

Jim, Did you take your motorhome to Henderson's in
Grants Pass? I was wondering how much they charged?
Ron

Ronnie,

I have not taken it in yet. I am going to call in a few weeks. They
are working on a 2 weeks out schedule now.

It really drives great now since I tightned the steering u-joints.

Jim


--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "Ronnie Gifford"
<rgbonehead@...> wrote:

>
> Jim, Did you take your motorhome to Henderson's in
> Grants Pass? I was wondering how much they charged?
> Ron
>

I just added fuel myself before screwing it on. RG

>From: solarnomads@...
>Reply-To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
>To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
>Subject: [Safarifriends] steering, handling and more
>Date: Thu, 18 May 2006 14:21:48 EDT
>
>18 May
>
>Jim,
>
>Thanks for the update on the steering column... we have a 1997 and found
>adding the "Safety T Plus" steering stabilizer did a lot to hold the center
>of
>road and handle sidewind/gusts etc. Recently added the "Tiger Traks" which
>improved even more the handling and the Safari Torcilastic Sway...
>
>Happy trails,
>tom
>
>Has anyone changed fuel/water seperator and fuel filter on this vintage of
>Safari? There's a small thumb pump and nut which should pump up the
>primary, but
>uncertain how to top up the 2ndary fuel filter since there's no pump there.
>All CAT and other dealer changes have just filled the filters with diesel
>or
>ATF and never used the pump. Any experiences appreciated.
>
>1997 Safari Ivory 37', CAT 3126
>
>ALTERNATIVES, Solar Energy Systems
>800-652-0826
>solarnomads@...

Tom,

On my '96 with 300 Cat I have a Racor 90T filter base with a push-
button pump as my primary filter and then the Cat Secondary filter.

When I changed my filters, I put the primary filter on dry first,
pushed primer button about 50-60 times and it got hard to pump. I
then changed the secondary filter and again I put it on dry. Pushed
primer button anouther 50-60 times and it got hard again.

The thinking was if I have any dirt get into the system from
changing the filters the undisturbed secondary would catch it,and
when I changed the secondary, with the primary being new and just
primed that fuel would be clean to fill the secondary filter.

Started it up and ran fine.

It apears to me that the primer, being on the first filter, pulls
fuel from the tank, pushes it thru the filter and when both filters
are full of fuel it gets hard to pump.

On the CAT Engine Owners Forum, they say to always to put the
filters on dry so there can be no chance of stuff getting in the
fuel system.

If you are going to prime the filters, be sure to pour the fuel into
the OUTER HOLES of the filter, NOT in the center hole. That way the
fuel is filtred before it reaches the engine.

Cat Owners Forum>>> http://autos.groups.yahoo.com/group/CATRVCLUB/?
yguid=147535202

Jim

Over on the Diesel RV forum someone recently posted about a problem
installing a digital converter box. He wrote that the antenna switcher
box provided the 12VDC to the Bat-Wing and putting the converter box
between the antenna lead and the switch box led to blown fuses.

I don't recall any 12VDC going into the antenna switch box on my coach,
a 96 Sahara. It's too cold to go out and check. <grin>

So, does anybody know where the Bat-Wing antenna amplifier on a
mid '90s Safari got it's 12VDC? Is it from a 12V source in the
overhead cabinet behind the driver at the on-off switch, or is it
supplied from the antenna switchbox above the windshield?

Ken
96 Safari Sahara- 3530, 35', CAT 300

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "Ken Wildman" <k-wildman@...>
wrote:

>
> Over on the Diesel RV forum someone recently posted about a problem
> installing a digital converter box. He wrote that the antenna

switcher

> box provided the 12VDC to the Bat-Wing and putting the converter

box

> between the antenna lead and the switch box led to blown fuses.
>
> I don't recall any 12VDC going into the antenna switch box on my

coach,

> a 96 Sahara. It's too cold to go out and check. <grin>
>
> So, does anybody know where the Bat-Wing antenna amplifier on a
> mid '90s Safari got it's 12VDC? Is it from a 12V source in the
> overhead cabinet behind the driver at the on-off switch, or is it
> supplied from the antenna switchbox above the windshield?
>
> Ken
> 96 Safari Sahara- 3530, 35', CAT 300

My antenna boost switch is in the overhead cabinet. It's a small
slide switch with a red LED that comes on when you slide the switch
on.

I'm not sure why a fuse would blow with the converter box. Might have
something to do with the back up camea & 12v going to the TV.

>

>
> My antenna boost switch is in the overhead cabinet. It's a small
> slide switch with a red LED that comes on when you slide the switch
> on.
>
> I'm not sure why a fuse would blow with the converter box. Might have
> something to do with the back up camea & 12v going to the TV.
> >
>

That's what I have, so I suspect that the 12v supply is in that cabinet.

I did check the Winegard site and they show both powered and non-
powered wall plates for the Bat-Wings. It looks like the powered ones
have the slide switch, but the pictures were not real clear.

I'll get out to the coach tomorrow and see if there is any 12V power
going to the switch box. I'm starting to believe that providing the
12v from the switch box is something introduced more recently than my
1996 coach.

I'll post what I find tomorrow.

Ken
96 Safari Sahara- 3530, 35', CAT 300

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "Ken Wildman" <k-wildman@...>
wrote:

>
> >
> > My antenna boost switch is in the overhead cabinet. It's a small
> > slide switch with a red LED that comes on when you slide the

switch

> > on.
> >
> > I'm not sure why a fuse would blow with the converter box. Might

have

> > something to do with the back up camea & 12v going to the TV.
> > >
> >
>
>
> That's what I have, so I suspect that the 12v supply is in that

cabinet.

>
> I did check the Winegard site and they show both powered and non-
> powered wall plates for the Bat-Wings. It looks like the powered

ones

> have the slide switch, but the pictures were not real clear.
>
> I'll get out to the coach tomorrow and see if there is any 12V

power

> going to the switch box. I'm starting to believe that providing

the

> 12v from the switch box is something introduced more recently than

my

> 1996 coach.
>
> I'll post what I find tomorrow.
>
> Ken
> 96 Safari Sahara- 3530, 35', CAT 300

The antemma boost isn't that new, I've got an 1989 Lance that has a
boost, & had a 1985 class C that had a boost.
I'll bet you've got the boost for the batwing antenna.

>

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "chuck.lewis72" <cdl45309@...>
wrote:

>> The antemma boost isn't that new, I've got an 1989 Lance that has

a

> boost, & had a 1985 class C that had a boost.
> I'll bet you've got the boost for the batwing antenna.
> >
>

I know I have an antenna amplifier. The question is where does the
power for the amplifier come from? Wineguard apparently did it two
different ways - either by 12V brought into the antenna switch box or
13v brought directly into the wall/ceiling panel.

The issue is that if it is being supplied by the antenna switch box,
you can't put the digital-to-analog converter between antenna lead
and the switch box. The problem that was reported was that trying
to "push" the 12v through the converter would blow a fuse in the
switch box.

I will look at the connections tomorrow. I was just hoping to save a
trip out in the cold by asking here.

Ken
96 Safari Sahara- 3530, 35', CAT 300

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "Ken Wildman" <k-wildman@...>
wrote:

>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "chuck.lewis72" <cdl45309@>
> wrote:
> >> The antemma boost isn't that new, I've got an 1989 Lance that

has

> a
> > boost, & had a 1985 class C that had a boost.
> > I'll bet you've got the boost for the batwing antenna.
> > >
> >
>
>
> I know I have an antenna amplifier. The question is where does the
> power for the amplifier come from? Wineguard apparently did it two
> different ways - either by 12V brought into the antenna switch box

or

> 13v brought directly into the wall/ceiling panel.
>
> The issue is that if it is being supplied by the antenna switch

box,

> you can't put the digital-to-analog converter between antenna lead
> and the switch box. The problem that was reported was that trying
> to "push" the 12v through the converter would blow a fuse in the
> switch box.
>
> I will look at the connections tomorrow. I was just hoping to save

a

> trip out in the cold by asking here.
>
> Ken
> 96 Safari Sahara- 3530, 35', CAT 300

Recently I needed to replace the coax from the antenna to the switch,
there wasn't anything going to the antenna except coax. There was 12v
going to the switch box. Coax coming from the switch box to the TV.

Let us know what you find.

>

Ken,

Your '96 is like mine. The bat wing antenna gets it's 12vdc from the
coax connected to the insertion device located in the overhead cabinet
behind the drivers seat. There is no 12vdc in the antenna switch.

You can not run the satellite antenna signal thru a converter box.
You can run the output of a converter box thru a satellite receiver.
You can run the output of the satellite receiver thru a converter box
if the converter box has the pass thru feature.

The connection from the satellite antenna to the satellite receiver
should not be run thru anything.

Jim
'96 Sahara 3540, 300 CAT, 520W Solar

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "Jim" <jandlbrooks@...> wrote:

>
> Ken,
>
> Your '96 is like mine. The bat wing antenna gets it's 12vdc from the
> coax connected to the insertion device located in the overhead cabinet
> behind the drivers seat. There is no 12vdc in the antenna switch.

KNW - OK. I didn't get out to look yesterday. Penny had me loaded up
with honey-dews.

>
> You can not run the satellite antenna signal thru a converter box.
> You can run the output of a converter box thru a satellite receiver.
> You can run the output of the satellite receiver thru a converter box
> if the converter box has the pass thru feature.

KNW - You lost me here. I don't have a satellite antenna, just
standard over-the-air analog. So, I'm assuming that I can just put the
antenna lead in the front cabinet (over windshield) to the converter
box and the output of the converter to the antenna switch box. Or, am
I missing something?

>
> The connection from the satellite antenna to the satellite receiver
> should not be run thru anything.

KNW - No satellite antenna, and no satellite receiver. Just plain-jane
analog TV

Ken
96 Safari Sahara- 3530, 35', CAT 300

Ken,

You got it. TV wire from roof to input of converter box. Output of
converter box to ANT input on selector sw.

The box we got is a APEX, model DT250, from Best Buy. I was surprised
how much heat it gives off. Will probably add a vent of some kind to
the compartment it goes in. Not using it now, are in a park with
great cable and we also have satellite on the roof.

Here for the winter http://www.banderacowboycapital.com/

Jim
'96 Sahara 3540, 300 CAT, 520 W Solar

Hi all,
I just broke out the DTV converter box we purchased with the $40. off coupon (before the extension). The instructions make it sound easy. However, with the 2 TV's wired to one antenna in the Magnadyne splitter box, I'm not sure how to hook it up.
I know it's not urgent now, but would like to see how it's going to work, and also if one box will work for both TV's... if not, will have to get a 2nd one before the coupon expires.

Anybody done this yet?

Thanks
Kathy
97 Sahara

You are going to need a second converter box for the bedroom unless you are willing to go up front to change channels. The converter box becomes the tuner with your tv set on Ch. 3 or 4, just like a VCR hookup.

I hooked mine up and tried it out in the driveway. Works great with the bat wing and I picked up a station crystal-clear that usually I can barely get at that location on standard analog tv.

I took advantage of the offer for two coupons and I'll probably install the second in the bedroom.

Ken
96 Safari Sahara- 3530, 35', CAT 300

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "stermolle" <stermolle@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I just broke out the DTV converter box we purchased with the $40. off coupon (before the extension). The instructions make it sound easy. However, with the 2 TV's wired to one antenna in the Magnadyne splitter box, I'm not sure how to hook it up.
> I know it's not urgent now, but would like to see how it's going to work, and also if one box will work for both TV's... if not, will have to get a 2nd one before the coupon expires.
>
> Anybody done this yet?
>
> Thanks
> Kathy
> 97 Sahara
>

Kathy,

On the box with the push buttons, find the INPUT marked ANTENNA IN.

Remove this cable and connect it to the converter box ANTENNA IN.

(now it is possible that the cable from the roof antenna is connected to something else, so a little figuring out your cables is needed)

The cable that came with the converter box, connect it to the box to the OUTPUT connection and connect the other end to the push button box where you removed the cable from ANTENNA IN.

This will provide digital/analog signal to both TV's. Both TV's will we seeing the same channel.

IF your converter box has a pass thru feature, you can use that to pass thru your satellite signal or cable.

OR

If you have a satellite dish like us, the satellite receiver has a pass thru feature and we hooked up ours like this when we are using the sat antenna and TV antenna.

The cable from the roof antenna goes to the converter box and the output goes to the sat receiver. The output of the sat receiver goes to the push button box. This way I can switch between sat and roof antenna with the remote from the sat receiver. When the sat receiver is on, we are watching sat. When it is off, we are watching ROOF Ant.

There is no right way to connect it, just remember ROOF ANT IN TO CONVERTER and CONVERTER BOX OUT TO TV INPUT. The TV INPUT can be IN to the SAT Receiver, the VCR, The DVD player, the push-button box.

This is one of those things that is so simple it is hard.

Jim
'96 3540

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "stermolle" <stermolle@...> wrote:
>
> Hi all,
> I just broke out the DTV converter box we purchased with the $40. off coupon (before the extension). The instructions make it sound easy. However, with the 2 TV's wired to one antenna in the Magnadyne splitter box, I'm not sure how to hook it up.
> I know it's not urgent now, but would like to see how it's going to work, and also if one box will work for both TV's... if not, will have to get a 2nd one before the coupon expires.
>
> Anybody done this yet?
>
> Thanks
> Kathy
> 97 Sahara
>

Kathy,

Ken brings up a good point, however, I do not watch TV in bed, the wife does, and she picks her channel before getting into bed, if you are a channel changer in bed, while watching TV off the converter box, you will need two boxes.

Jim
'96 3540

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "Ken Wildman" <k-wildman@...> wrote:
>
> You are going to need a second converter box for the bedroom unless you are willing to go up front to change channels. The converter box becomes the tuner with your tv set on Ch. 3 or 4, just like a VCR hookup.
>
> I hooked mine up and tried it out in the driveway. Works great with the bat wing and I picked up a station crystal-clear that usually I can barely get at that location on standard analog tv.
>
> I took advantage of the offer for two coupons and I'll probably install the second in the bedroom.
>
> Ken
> 96 Safari Sahara- 3530, 35', CAT 300
>
>
>
> --- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "stermolle" <stermolle@> wrote:
> >
> > Hi all,
> > I just broke out the DTV converter box we purchased with the $40. off coupon (before the extension). The instructions make it sound easy. However, with the 2 TV's wired to one antenna in the Magnadyne splitter box, I'm not sure how to hook it up.
> > I know it's not urgent now, but would like to see how it's going to work, and also if one box will work for both TV's... if not, will have to get a 2nd one before the coupon expires.
> >
> > Anybody done this yet?
> >
> > Thanks
> > Kathy
> > 97 Sahara
> >
>

Thank you all for the input.
A few more questions come to mind as we look in the cabinet that holds the VCR, DVD, router box, and in our case a Jensen RF Modulator.

1. We don't have any more plug ins. Already have an extension cord. Considering doing away with the VCR player, as we seldom use it anymore.

2. If we get a 2nd converter box, it too will go up front, so it can plug into the router box, right?

3. I "assumed" that the TV would have it's own plug in. How do you guys deal with getting electricity to your components?

Kathy

>>3.  I "assumed" that the TV would have it's own plug in.  How do you guys deal with getting electricity to your components?

Kathy>>


We installed a *power strip* with a surge protector for extra plug in spaces.  Mounted it right inside the cabinet to the wall and then we can turn off all our electrical appliances with one flick of a switch .... this is especially helpful when boondocking and conserving the battery power when the inverter is on for other things...   Because even when turned off, the tv, vcr, dvd still suck up power. 

We also installed a *timer* unit, much like what you see at hotel whirlpools, by our inverter switch.  So we can twist the dial for say an hour or two, nice for just using the tv in the back bedroom before falling asleep, and this way the inverter is not running all night long wasting batteries either.  Also during this 2 hours span, the front tv and componants are not sucking up juice when having the power strip turned to off.

We mostly camp rustic or boondock, so we are very conservative with our battery use.


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Karen,
Thanks for the good ideas. Don't know why I didn't think of the power strip.
Kathy

--- In Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com, "KarenInTheWoods *" <pfundt@...> wrote:
>
> >>3. I "assumed" that the TV would have it's own plug in. How do you guys
> deal with getting electricity to your components?
> Kathy>>
>
>
> We installed a *power strip* with a surge protector for extra plug in
> spaces. Mounted it right inside the cabinet to the wall and then we can
> turn off all our electrical appliances with one flick of a switch .... this
> is especially helpful when boondocking and conserving the battery power when
> the inverter is on for other things... Because even when turned off, the
> tv, vcr, dvd still suck up power.
>
> We also installed a *timer* unit, much like what you see at hotel
> whirlpools, by our inverter switch. So we can twist the dial for say an
> hour or two, nice for just using the tv in the back bedroom before falling
> asleep, and this way the inverter is not running all night long wasting
> batteries either. Also during this 2 hours span, the front tv and
> componants are not sucking up juice when having the power strip turned to
> off.
>
> We mostly camp rustic or boondock, so we are very conservative with our
> battery use.
>
>
> --
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> (All About Me) http://kareninthewoods.com
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> and http://www.designstyleguide.net/sellerPortfolio.php?mi=170
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Hi again Karen,

You could go with 12V LCD TVs. They are availabel but not cheap.

http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/tv-antennas/tv-12-volt.htm

Otherwise for boondocking you need to use your inverter or generator for the TVs which is not as efficient. And you might have to run an Auxilliary 120V output from the inverter to the Bedroom. Not very efficient either.

Slim

Yah.. you are right, Slim about LCD using less power.. but we couldn't afford those nor did we want to re-work all the cabinetry to accept the wider shorter screens. 

We did update both of our tv's already to new RCA's that are both digital and analog in the same tv.  They are still the CRT (big bump on the back) shaped tvs, but they were cheap on sale and we have no need for the converter boxes and they fit the same holes in the cabinets as the old ones were.

During channel setup, they scan first all the analog signals, then all the digital signals, and with one flick of the button on the remote you can toggle between either version.  Some of the translator small stations in the UP of Michigan and northern Wisconsin where we were camp a lot are not going to be changing over to digital, so that is why we chose those types of tvs.

steveio got his big huge shiney muffler for the motorhome last night.. he ordered it and is so proud how pretty it looks.. haha its huge and macho and needed to be replaced on our rig .. now he has to wait for the custom made huge 4 inch thick curvey pipe (like a huge snake) that he is having made up too which might be done tonight ... so i might be out on the muffler assembly line tonight helping him install it on the motorhome....  another $300-400 total that we can ill afford but needed to be done! hahahha

sipping coffee and thinking of getting a start on the day here
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Karen and Steveio
1996 Safari Serengeti 38ft DP
Wisconsin Northwoods where the sun is shining and we are planning a camping trip soon

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(Camping/Family Photos)  http://picasaweb.google.com/pfundt/
(Weaving Photos)             http://picasaweb.google.com/KarenInTheWoods1
(All About Me)                   http://kareninthewoods.com
(Handwoven E-Stores)     http://kareninthewoods.etsy.com/
and   http://www.designstyleguide.net/sellerPortfolio.php?mi=170
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On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Slim Chestnut <togocotton@...> wrote:

Hi again Karen,

You could go with 12V LCD TVs. They are availabel but not cheap.

http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/tv-antennas/tv-12-volt.htm

Otherwise for boondocking you need to use your inverter or generator for the TVs which is not as efficient. And you might have to run an Auxilliary 120V output from the inverter to the Bedroom. Not very efficient either.

Slim

Karen ; Can you please give us the particulars on your exhaust purchase ? where from, model #, price, etc. Thx    RG
 

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To: Safarifriends@yahoogroups.com
From: pfundt@...
Date: Thu, 19 Mar 2009 07:13:50 -0500
Subject: Re: [Safarifriends] 1b. Re: Installing a DTV to Analog converter box From: KarenInTheWoods

Yah.. you are right, Slim about LCD using less power.. but we couldn't afford those nor did we want to re-work all the cabinetry to accept the wider shorter screens. 

We did update both of our tv's already to new RCA's that are both digital and analog in the same tv.  They are still the CRT (big bump on the back) shaped tvs, but they were cheap on sale and we have no need for the converter boxes and they fit the same holes in the cabinets as the old ones were.

During channel setup, they scan first all the analog signals, then all the digital signals, and with one flick of the button on the remote you can toggle between either version.  Some of the translator small stations in the UP of Michigan and northern Wisconsin where we were camp a lot are not going to be changing over to digital, so that is why we chose those types of tvs.

steveio got his big huge shiney muffler for the motorhome last night.. he ordered it and is so proud how pretty it looks.. haha its huge and macho and needed to be replaced on our rig .. now he has to wait for the custom made huge 4 inch thick curvey pipe (like a huge snake) that he is having made up too which might be done tonight ... so i might be out on the muffler assembly line tonight helping him install it on the motorhome....  another $300-400 total that we can ill afford but needed to be done! hahahha

sipping coffee and thinking of getting a start on the day here
--
Karen and Steveio
1996 Safari Serengeti 38ft DP
Wisconsin Northwoods where the sun is shining and we are planning a camping trip soon

~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~
(Camping/Family Photos)  http://picasaweb.google.com/pfundt/
(Weaving Photos)             http://picasaweb.google.com/KarenInTheWoods1
(All About Me)                   http://kareninthewoods.com
(Handwoven E-Stores)     http://kareninthewoods.etsy.com/
and   http://www.designstyleguide.net/sellerPortfolio.php?mi=170
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On Wed, Mar 18, 2009 at 6:16 PM, Slim Chestnut <togocotton@...> wrote:

Hi again Karen,

You could go with 12V LCD TVs. They are availabel but not cheap.

http://www.pplmotorhomes.com/parts/tv-antennas/tv-12-volt.htm

Otherwise for boondocking you need to use your inverter or generator for the TVs which is not as efficient. And you might have to run an Auxilliary 120V output from the inverter to the Bedroom. Not very efficient either.

Slim

Sure...  the muffler we ordered through our local Car Quest auto parts store...   (kinda like a Napa chain store)

Its a Donaldson
carwquest # is M120598
Dontaldson # is M120598-016-147

normal price $344.52
discount price $170.00

(they always give us a discount when we order parts there, I don't know why)

the big snakey 4 inch pipe and flange he is having made up at a local exhust muffler company and should be done today.. will take pics when he gets that .  didn't get a final price yet but hubby is expecting about $100-150 for it

In my album on the Safarifriends yahoo group page, I will go upload the pics of the two mufflers side by side in just a sec

Karen and Steveio
1996 Safari Serengeti 38ft DP
raring and ready to go camping soon!

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On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 11:12 AM, Mr. G. <prieye@...> wrote:

Karen ; Can you please give us the particulars on your exhaust purchase ? where from, model #, price, etc. Thx    RG